shouldn't it matter more than a tourney from four years ago? He's had injury issues since then, been on a playoff team once in his whole career and teams he is on have a funny way of becoming worse.

I know I know, he's there and you were right. I just for the life of me do not get why many think Rick Nash is so good. I would have slotted Hall in before him and I didn't expect Hall to make it. I think Stevie is just kind of in "aint broke dont fix it" mindset.
- TheTaoOfSemenko

If you watch him, you would know he's dominant and without a question one of the top wingers in yhe game. His combination of size, strength, speed, hands, skating, and shot is all elite. Its unfair to dismiss his entire career on a 15 game slump.

If you watch him, you would know he's dominant and without a question one of the top wingers in yhe game. His combination of size, strength, speed, hands, skating, and shot is all elite. Its unfair to dismiss his entire career on a 15 game slump.
- rangerdanger94

I didn't dismiss his entire career. I've watched Nash for years in the west well before he went to NY. He's big and has skills sure. He also took his team to the playoffs precisely once and played at an actual PPG level only once. He drives the net well and provides some size but is not some two-way marvel. He is maybe one of the top 10 wingers in the game, and thats a big maybe. If he wasn't on Broadway you wouldnt give a rats ass and you sure wouldnt be defending him.

#FireYzerman
- lumlums

yeah no kidding.. that guys doesnt know what it takes to win

Like who?


Seabrooke was the only surprise omission for me.
- robin_steele264

Boyle? Letang? Seabrook?

I didn't dismiss his entire career. I've watched Nash for years in the west well before he went to NY. He's big and has skills sure. He also took his team to the playoffs precisely once and played at an actual PPG level only once. He drives the net well and provides some size but is not some two-way marvel. He is maybe one of the top 10 wingers in the game, and thats a big maybe. If he wasn't on Broadway you wouldnt give a rats ass and you sure wouldnt be defending him.
- TheTaoOfSemenko

Actually, before the trade nash was considered to be a top 5 player in the entire nhl whos talent was rotting away in Columbus. After the trade and a near ppg season, he is now the most overrated declining 29 year old forward in history.

Actually, before the trade nash was considered to be a top 5 player in the entire nhl whos talent was rotting away in Columbus. After the trade and a near ppg season, he is now the most overrated declining 29 year old forward in history.
- rangerdanger94

Rangers: better with Nash? or without?

Actually, before the trade nash was considered to be a top 5 player in the entire nhl whos talent was rotting away in Columbus. After the trade and a near ppg season, he is now the most overrated declining 29 year old forward in history.
- rangerdanger94

many people never considered him that.

yeah no kidding.. that guys doesnt know what it takes to win
- Dozzer

Yup, such a bum. Get rid of him now before it's too late...

Rangers: better with Nash? or without?
- TheTaoOfSemenko

This is a loaded question. The rangers overachieved the year before trading for him with hank iwinning the vezina, richards eperforming, and gaborik ahaving a career year. The trade isnt what made the rangers regress so much, it was the complete disappearance of gaborik and richards along with letting prust, fedetenko, and mitchell walk as ufas.

many people never considered him that.
- TheTaoOfSemenko

Nash will play on the 4th line as an energy guy with Marleau and Bergeron/Tavares? playing limited minutes - he'll be good defensively and could be a factor offensively, but on this team as a 4th liner, IMO we really shouldn't have too much of an issue with Nash being on this team.

This is a loaded question. The rangers overachieved the year before trading for him with hank iwinning the vezina, richards eperforming, and gaborik ahaving a career year. The trade isnt what made the rangers regress so much, it was the complete disappearance of gaborik and richards along with letting prust, fedetenko, and mitchell walk as ufas.
- rangerdanger94

They also eviscerated their depth to acquire him. Honestly, it strikes me as the NHL equivalent of the Carmelo Anthony trade.

many people never considered him that.
- TheTaoOfSemenko

You can deny it, but its pretty true. Nash was godlike until howson publically expressed his demands and then everyone started saying nash isnt worth that, he's overrated, and that ryan is a better player.

Nash will play on the 4th line as an energy guy with Marleau and Bergeron/Tavares? playing limited minutes - he'll be good defensively and could be a factor offensively, but on this team as a 4th liner, IMO we really shouldn't have too much of an issue with Nash being on this team.
- Woderwick

Yeah but Im in a complainy mood.

What about Carter? That one really kind of surprised me.

You can deny it, but its pretty true. Nash was godlike until howson publically expressed his demands and then everyone started saying nash isnt worth that, he's overrated, and that ryan is a better player.
- rangerdanger94

They also eviscerated their depth to acquire him. Honestly, it strikes me as the NHL equivalent of the Carmelo Anthony trade.
- TheTaoOfSemenko

It was a 2 for 1 deal in terms of nhl roster players. Dubi and anisimov...dubi was struggling and.had.the worst season of his career and arty was great but not even comparable to nash. It wasthe free.agency blunders that destroyed our depth. The melo trade...the knicks actually traded 5 starters for him.

Yeah but Im in a complainy mood.

What about Carter? That one really kind of surprised me.
- TheTaoOfSemenko

The Carter pick bothers me more than Nash. I will say Nash looked good in Vancouver.......but Carter over Staal.....blows my mind.

It was a 2 for 1 deal in terms of nhl roster players. Dubi and anisimov...dubi was struggling and.had.the worst season of his career and arty was great but not even comparable to nash. It wasthe free.agency blunders that destroyed our depth. The melo trade...the knicks actually traded 5 starters for him.
- rangerdanger94

Just struck me as similar. both teams gave up depth for superstars but regressed. Are you guys sick of Slats yet?

Source?
- lumlums

The Fourth Period -David Pagnotta

What no Phaneuf?

The Carter pick bothers me more than Nash. I will say Nash looked good in Vancouver.......but Carter over Staal.....blows my mind.
- mykokes

Gonna admit that it bothers me a lot more than Nash. Just more entertainment to be had with Nash.

Nash will play on the 4th line as an energy guy with Marleau and Bergeron/Tavares? playing limited minutes - he'll be good defensively and could be a factor offensively, but on this team as a 4th liner, IMO we really shouldn't have too much of an issue with Nash being on this team.
- Woderwick

No - he was great with Toews in 10'. I'm guessing they'll put him with Sharpe and Toews …at least in pencil.

The Carter pick bothers me more than Nash. I will say Nash looked good in Vancouver.......but Carter over Staal.....blows my mind.
- mykokes

staal left the game a couple nights back with an injury and didnt return

Just struck me as similar. both teams gave up depth for superstars but regressed. Are you guys sick of Slats yet?
- TheTaoOfSemenko

I dont really mind sather, but 80% of the fanbase is. Hes the best in the league at rfa deals, see stepan and mcdonagh and zuccarello, but terrible at ufa signings. However he always mmanages to fix his ufa mistakes and his trading ability is sublime.

Off topic....
Monday's Practice Lines

Van Riemsdyk - Bozak - Kessel
Raymond - Kadri - Lupul
D'Amigo - McClement - Kulemin
McLaren - Holland - Orr

Gleason - Phaneuf
Gardiner - Rielly
Fraser - Franson
Ranger

Bernier/Reimer

This never gets old. Waste of Holland imo.

I dont really mind sather, but 80% of the fanbase is. Hes the best in the league at rfa deals, see stepan and mcdonagh and zuccarello, but terrible at ufa signings. However he always mmanages to fix his ufa mistakes and his trading ability is sublime.
- rangerdanger94

True. I still cant fathom how he swung the Montreal deal. Amazing.