That's he's playing like a top pairing d-man finally?
- mykokes

I'll have to check his +\- before I can answer

Kadri +15 last year and playing well. -11 this year, and not so much..
- bixll

good game last night

also.. we need to remember.. he is a sophomore who is still on pace for 50 points

if 50 is an off year for him then we should be very happy with that.

Valuable stat. Our +/- leader from last season is a fixture in the pressbox
- senstroll

Fraser has been terrible this season. Last year he was solid as a 5/6...this season he should be in the A.

Year's past most of us said he was playing poorly and overrated. Is it that hard to understand that this year and last year he's been great and not as overrated as he was Mr. Phaneuf hater?
- mykokes

he's been good. he has not been great

he only looks great because the rest of the defense is so bloody terrible

good game last night

also.. we need to remember.. he is a sophomore who is still on pace for 50 points

if 50 is an off year for him then we should be very happy with that.
- Dozzer

You sure it's an off year?

I'll have to check his +\- before I can answer
- robin_steele264

Nah, don't do that, just watch the Rangers game. Should give you an indication he's not a problem.

You sure it's an off year?
- robin_steele264

Pretty sure. We'll know for sure in year's 3 and 4 right?

I'll have to check his +\- before I can answer
- robin_steele264

Lets ask Gleason how he feels about + - after last night..poor bugger.

good game last night

also.. we need to remember.. he is a sophomore who is still on pace for 50 points

if 50 is an off year for him then we should be very happy with that.
- Dozzer

50-60 is what should be expected. a player drafted where he was is in that range.
he needs to focus on improving in other areas

he's been good. he has not been great

he only looks great because the rest of the defense is so bloody terrible
- Dozzer

Good point.

- Bigzby

Franson

Nah, don't do that, just watch the Rangers game. Should give you an indication he's not a problem.
- mykokes

I never said he was the problem.


Just making an observation about how +\- is useless when it goes against your argument then quickly becomes relevant when it bolsters your argument.


Not just Dion... Happens all the time.

50-60 is what should be expected. a player drafted where he was is in that range.
he needs to focus on improving in other areas
- senstroll

That game against Minny, I thought he was turning a corner.....I think Cherry needs to kiss him again.

Pretty sure. We'll know for sure in year's 3 and 4 right?
- mykokes

That'd show more of a trend

I never said he was the problem.


Just making an observation about how +\- is useless when it goes against your argument then quickly becomes relevant when it bolsters your argument.


Not just Dion... Happens all the time.
- robin_steele264

THe only thing I take from Dion's +/- this season is that its so much better than the guys he plays with, both forwards and d. if he was +15 and Gunnarson was +15 and Kessel was +15...then I wouldn't pay attention to it at all.

- Bigzby

That'd show more of a trend
- robin_steele264

I think he just feels like he's more than a sophomore because we aren't use to developing any draft pics lol

50-60 is what should be expected. a player drafted where he was is in that range.
he needs to focus on improving in other areas
- senstroll

i think ribeiro numbers arent a stretch. once he puts it all together he will be a very good player for a very long time.

the leafs just need to stick by a kid for once

good game last night

also.. we need to remember.. he is a sophomore who is still on pace for 50 points

if 50 is an off year for him then we should be very happy with that.
- Dozzer

I would rather him play good D as well and score a few less points, but that just me. There are 2 sides to the ice surface..

That'd show more of a trend
- robin_steele264

Dobs says year four is the year guys break out. Year 2 is typically the worst (we all know the sophmore jinx). I still see the talent and the ability in Kadri, but I don't see him doing the little things he did last season, he went from trying to prove he belongs here, to playing with a little more entitlement he belongs here. That Minny game was the only one I actually saw him trying to prove he was a complete #1 line centre. Hopefully he gets back to playing that way suspensions aside.

i think ribeiro numbers arent a stretch. once he puts it all together he will be a very good player for a very long time.

the leafs just need to stick by a kid for once
- Dozzer

I am not saying move him, just get (frank)in back to help the D.

I am not saying move him, just get (frank)in back to help the D.
- bixll

I'd settle for smart line changes and moving with the same intensity in the defensive zone as he does in the offensive zone. Oh, and more shots on goal---the second they put him with Kessel he got a case of Bozakitis. "Must feed Phil and jVR the puck, even when I'm in the slot"

Dobs says year four is the year guys break out. Year 2 is typically the worst (we all know the sophmore jinx). I still see the talent and the ability in Kadri, but I don't see him doing the little things he did last season, he went from trying to prove he belongs here, to playing with a little more entitlement he belongs here. That Minny game was the only one I actually saw him trying to prove he was a complete #1 line centre. Hopefully he gets back to playing that way suspensions aside.
- mykokes

His want for big money soars the taste in the mouth of fans, when his play has declined.

Phaneuf: Captain Caveman
Gunnarsson: Hipster
Gardiner: The Forward Wannabe
Rielly: The Chosen One
Gleason: The New Guy
Ranger: Ranger Danger
Fraser: The New Glacier
Franson: The Hippo