I would understand that argument if youre still talking about old time hockey.

Wake up, its 2014. Teams are getting away from the traditional lets field a 4th line of goons and fighters.... the good teams want a 4th line of players that can shoot, handle the puck and be responsible at both ends of the ice. Nothing John Scott is good at.

I think its pretty clear that you think of hockey, the game, in a traditional sense. "Oh the 4th line should be full of poopty players because thats what a 4th line should be".... You're decades behind.
- theblueandgold

4th Line is for role players which John is . Get over yourself and your stat sheets . John is here for the season . Ted likes him .

Wait but that's not what you keep trying to tell us... You keep saying we are crazy to say he's an awful player. We have proof and showed it to you

Now your tune has changed to "well he's under contract"

Typical Internet forum hypocrite


- sbroads24

Whatever , I watch the games . You should too . Besides just reading the box score after the game and thinking you know all the answers .

Have a good time Happy birthday .
- cabin

Thanks

Hopefully a few bad decisions will be made

I would understand that argument if youre still talking about old time hockey.

Wake up, its 2014. Teams are getting away from the traditional lets field a 4th line of goons and fighters.... the good teams want a 4th line of players that can shoot, handle the puck and be responsible at both ends of the ice. Nothing John Scott is good at.

I think its pretty clear that you think of hockey, the game, in a traditional sense. "Oh the 4th line should be full of poopty players because thats what a 4th line should be".... You're decades behind.
- theblueandgold

"4th liners don't matter, you can find them anywhere"

Lets waive Scott and bring up player X

"John Scott the 4th liner is needed"

Thanks

Hopefully a few bad decisions will be made

- homiedclown

Isn't Crown your drink?

4th Line is for role players which John is . Get over yourself and your stat sheets . John is here for the season . Ted likes him .
- Maximum Signal

I like John to. He is paid for what he does . He isn't the flashiest player He is a deterrent to crap against our team. He can take a shift and clear some space for the other players. Seem many times 2 defenders are on Scott a lot of times. To bad he can't get the puck to the open players all the time. Him and Ellis have been playing pretty good together . I can deal with him on the team till we have better to replace him on the 4th line.

Thanks

Hopefully a few bad decisions will be made

- homiedclown

They are only bad the next day. If you remember them.

Whatever , I watch the games . You should too . Besides just reading the box score after the game and thinking you know all the answers .
- Maximum Signal

Do you watch the games? If you do and still believe what you're saying, your hockey IQ is about as high as the puck's.

John Scott is DEAD LAST on the Sabres in Fenwick For %. These stats show that when John Scott is on the ice, the Sabres are receiving more shots against than shot for.

http://stats.hockeyanalys...ick&sort=PCT&sortdir=DESC

Do all you John Scott lovers even watch the game? Its so obvious. Just watch the game. Try not to drool when he goads someone into a meaningless fight and watch the (frank)ing games. He sucks.
- theblueandgold

You're just a hater.

/sacasm

John Scott is DEAD LAST on the Sabres in Fenwick For %. These stats show that when John Scott is on the ice, the Sabres are receiving more shots against than shot for.

http://stats.hockeyanalys...ick&sort=PCT&sortdir=DESC

Do all you John Scott lovers even watch the game? Its so obvious. Just watch the game. Try not to drool when he goads someone into a meaningless fight and watch the (frank)ing games. He sucks.
- theblueandgold

We know he sucks. But he is a needed presence. He might not be Crosby like in skill but he makes up for that in intelligence. You don't need skill to be an effective player. If you can read the game and put your self in decent position than you are ok.

Not necessarily a Scott-centric comment, but I think the sabres are giving a lot of bottom 6'ers a chance to prove themselves to stick around once some of our younger draft picks mature. People in Buffalo are howling over Konoopka & D'augistini and constantly complain about Scott and Kaleta. Not to mention we all ready have several perennial bottom 6/AHLer's on the team now.I have a feeling what shakes out is going to be a "best of" bottom 6 lineup with 3-4 of our prospects getting top 6 work and a few free agents brought in to fill in the blanks. I think Edmonton has proven that you cant build an entire team out of high draft picks. That's ALMOST the road the Sabres went down before they fired R&R.
A supporting bottom 6 who can be trusted to not completely screw up or be benched in a tight game is important to a team that eventually wants to be a regular playoff team.

I like John to. He is paid for what he does . He isn't the flashiest player He is a deterrent to crap against our team. He can take a shift and clear some space for the other players. Seem many times 2 defenders are on Scott a lot of times. To bad he can't get the puck to the open players all the time. Him and Ellis have been playing pretty good together . I can deal with him on the team till we have better to replace him on the 4th line.
- cabin

So where do you Girls meet for your Little John Scott Haters Club ? I know you exchange your spread sheets to prove your theories on why we have to rid ourselves of the awful hockey player known as John Scott . But after that what do you do ? Do you do each others hair and nails for fun ?

The Game of Hockey is not won on spread sheets. Except in your Fantasy leagues. Bring all your stats girls . Those of us that watch the games and know what we are watching know it takes more . And who said we want to win games right now ? I thought the goal was to tank for high picks for a couple of years.
- Maximum Signal

Honest question: can anyone have an opinion about anything that is different than yours?

Everything that you blame others for, you do the same exact thing.

FFS

- theblueandgold

I thought you would get a kick out of that.

Even the Leaf fans on this site say that they don't want Orr or McLearen in the lineup...

We know he sucks. But he is a needed presence. He might not be Crosby like in skill but he makes up for that in intelligence. You don't need skill to be an effective player. If you can read the game and put your self in decent position than you are ok.
- jaumiller

The problem isn't that he's "not Crosby" the problem is he's not even Cody McCormick

I like John to. He is paid for what he does . He isn't the flashiest player He is a deterrent to crap against our team. He can take a shift and clear some space for the other players. Seem many times 2 defenders are on Scott a lot of times. To bad he can't get the puck to the open players all the time. Him and Ellis have been playing pretty good together . I can deal with him on the team till we have better to replace him on the 4th line.
- cabin

I think that might be what the argument about him is. There has to be someone better who can replace him.

All I know is Staff and Leino and sitting there watching these posts for the past couple days . Laughing their asses off thinking they are off the hook.. " they are more into scott sucking than blaming us" High 5

The problem isn't that he's "not Crosby" the problem is he's not even Cody McCormick
- sbroads24

And that is low...

Do you watch the games? If you do and still believe what you're saying, your hockey IQ is about as high as the puck's.
- theblueandgold

I watch the games . 4th line has been fine and actually a pleasant surprise in this hell season . My puck IQ is fine and probably a lot higher than your there Mr Statistics. The game is not played on a spread sheet and a box score does not tell the whole story . You are getting way beyond yourself here . I thought the goal here was for high level picks for once. John has a role . He plays it and actually has not been a liability on the ice . Just a liability on your spread sheets. When we are a contender again in 4 or 5 years I doubt Big John will be in our plans .

What do you propose . We bring up a career AHL'er that will set the league on fire and win us a cup ( only happens in the movies ). Or bring up a young prospect to quick and chance ruining their development.

I think that might be what the argument about him is. There has to be someone better who can replace him.
- rmiethaner

I'm sure there is .

The problem isn't that he's "not Crosby" the problem is he's not even Cody McCormick
- sbroads24

I'm not going to argue anymore because I honestly don't care enough to argue.

Question.. John Scott a better player than Peters ?

Whatever , I watch the games . You should too . Besides just reading the box score after the game and thinking you know all the answers .
- Maximum Signal

I can't speak for him, but I watch the games as well. I see a 6'8 goon who is far and away the worst player on the ice every shift. I see the Sabres as never being a threat to score when he's on the ice. I see a player who gets a zero tolerance policy from officials (though maybe not completely his fault). I see a player who puts the Sabres short-handed in more frequently than any other player on this team. I see a player who lately hasn't even been the deterrent to opposing teams taking liberties on players that he was supposedly brought in to be in the first place. Winnipeg didn't even bat an eye at him. Girgensons was manhandled all night long.

The game may not be won or lost on spreadsheets, but when spreadsheets and on-ice play both indicate the same thing, chances are there's something to it. The fact that John Scott is still on this team is an indicator that the Buffalo Sabres have not even scratched the surface in shedding the loser mentality that has plagued this franchise for a long time.

Question.. John Scott a better player than Peters ?
- cabin

Whoa….that's a good one.