aside from jay bow and dion "piano man", how many legit top pairing d men get traded?


- homiedclown

r u saying that some of the best d men over the last 20 years havent been dealt?

Tim Connolly's shortcomings had nothing to do with how early he entered the NHL. It was all about motivation, and a lack of desire to be great.
- buffalofan19

And his glass noggin.

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Disgruntled #Habs forward Daniel Briere only willing to lift NTC for the #Sabres, the #Penguins, the #Capitals and the NYC area teams.

Kinda feels nice to be on a players "List"...

And his glass noggin.
- sambarugh

Even that had nothing to do with how early he entered. He played four straight seasons of 80 games or more before his first concussion.

you think they move him anytime in the next decade?
- hubie

Ten years isn't ever.


And yes I can see him being moved.

Contract disputes happen all the time.

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Disgruntled #Habs forward Daniel Briere only willing to lift NTC for the #Sabres, the #Penguins, the #Capitals and the NYC area teams.

Kinda feels nice to be on a players "List"...
- Jawallstar1

Then he'll end up in Buffalo or on Long Island, no way the Canadiens will trade Danny to a playoff team to bite them come April or May...

r u saying that some of the best d men over the last 20 years havent been dealt?
- hubie

yeah when was the last time a top 20 nhl d man was moved in his prime?

how often has it happened since the turn of the century?

not often


it's one thing to move a chara when he struggles, another thing to trade him when he is a legit all star

legit all star d men don't get moved

Ten years isn't ever.


And yes I can see him being moved.

Contract disputes happen all the time.
- dadeadhead

uh huh so top 3 forwards get moved more often then top 2 d men?

Even that had nothing to do with how early he entered. He played four straight seasons of 80 games or more before his first concussion.
- buffalofan19

Disagree, had he not had a glass noggin then it wouldn't have broken and his motivation wouldn't have fallen out. Instead it was filled with m&m's and held together with scotch tape.

Even that had nothing to do with how early he entered. He played four straight seasons of 80 games or more before his first concussion.
- buffalofan19

worst thing to happen to any athlete

im good with scott being on this team. can we maybe not put him on the power play though? the real problem is on the top 2 lines, i dont know whats there. if youd like to make the point that scott is here to allow our ineffectual marginally talented forwards to wheel and deal and THATS not happening, ill accept that. of course it still gets back to not having enough talent at the top, not too much enforcement at the bottom.

yeah when was the last time a top 20 nhl d man was moved in his prime?
how often has it happened since the turn of the century?

not often


it's one thing to move a chara when he struggles, another thing to trade him when he is a legit all star

legit all star d men don't get moved
- homiedclown

Pronger.

Disagree, had he not had a glass noggin then it wouldn't have broken and his motivation wouldn't have fallen out. Instead it was filled with m&m's and held together with scotch tape.
- sambarugh

Have you ever had a concussion?

worst thing to happen to any athlete
- hubie

disagree

losing motivation once you get paid is the worst thing

your born with talent, use it and be grateful and bust your ass on every shift as if it's your last

yeah when was the last time a top 20 nhl d man was moved in his prime?

how often has it happened since the turn of the century?

not often

it's one thing to move a chara when he struggles, another thing to trade him when he is a legit all star

legit all star d men don't get moved
- homiedclown

TJ Brennan. I can keep going.

Disagree, had he not had a glass noggin then it wouldn't have broken and his motivation wouldn't have fallen out. Instead it was filled with m&m's and held together with scotch tape.
- sambarugh

Understood, but people, here have maintained that had Connolly had AHL experience, he wouldn't have been injured "so soon". His first concussion didn't happen until age 22 or 23.

Tim Connolly's shortcomings had nothing to do with how early he entered the NHL. It was all about motivation, and a lack of desire to be great.
- buffalofan19

Thank you Dr Phil. Maybe his motivation was shot the same time his confidence was shot starting in the NHL as an 18 year old. You do dictate your enormous intelligence but have you ever studied Organizational Psychology? One fact/theory is that people are afraid to take on learning that they are not familiar with. If Connolly was developed correctly and was eased into the NHL when he was comfortable and ready, he may have had more confidence and hence motivation. I think I'll develop an Organizational Psychology theory called the Tim Connolly Concept.

yeah when was the last time a top 20 nhl d man was moved in his prime?

how often has it happened since the turn of the century?

not often


it's one thing to move a chara when he struggles, another thing to trade him when he is a legit all star

legit all star d men don't get moved
- homiedclown

Pronger was traded 3 times since 05/06

Have you ever had a concussion?
- hubie

One time I ate Dairy Queen too fast.

disagree

losing motivation once you get paid is the worst thing

your born with talent, use it and be grateful and bust your ass on every shift as if it's your last
- homiedclown

uve clearly never had a concussion

Pronger.
- sbroads24

i thought prongers wife basically said "edmonton huh, ill be in LA if you need me".

Come on now..........

Let's all get along around here!
- Irish 14

Pronger.
- sbroads24

I knew that one was coming

any others since 2000?


it's not often

and kaberle doesn't count

Thank you Dr Phil. Maybe his motivation was shot the same time his confidence was shot starting in the NHL as an 18 year old. You do dictate your enormous intelligence but have you ever studied Organizational Psychology? One fact/theory is that people are afraid to take on learning that they are not familiar with. If Connolly was developed correctly and was eased into the NHL when he was comfortable and ready, he may have had more confidence and hence motivation. I think I'll develop am Organizational Psychology theory called the Tim Connolly Concept.
- GilPerreault11

His play in 2005-2006 showed he overcame whatever obstacle his "too early" of an entrance into the league. It was behind him. He just lacked the desire to maintain it.

uve clearly never had a concussion
- hubie

wrong

nice try