Sorry nites, but just bc he might have figured out now to become the player he should of been doesn't merit him to be selected. He's done nothing in prior years...
- Ur Not Me

What has Stephan Oshie wheeler Stansy JVR done in prior years?

What has Stephan Oshie wheeler Stansy JVR done in prior years?
- Danformo

Of that list, I believe Statsny was on the last team and played really well and was important to team USA so I could see why he got selected again, on the others, nothing, that's why I mentioned some players didn't deserve to make and some got snubbed..... Plus I never mentioned those names anyhow.....

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- XxNYIxX

Wait till our coaching staff gets a hold of him, he'll have to sit a couple of games 1st, then sit some more bc he needs more practice, by time he gets in a game will be half way thru the season....
- Ur Not Me

For the WJC, Cappy would have had him fly to Sweden to just to attend a meeting before sending him back.

This was posted on the Kings blog......


Anyone see the fourth periods theory of a deal with the Isles.

Grabner for Martinez and Lewis/Carcillo



I just don't see how that trade is fair value.... But also don't know much about those players on Kings..

After hearing David Poille talk today about the Ryan situation... I think I put the person on the wrong guy.

Burnside posted the story, when he shouldn't have.

He just picked out the comments that would cause a stir.

Burke, and the USA Hockey program got blindsided by ESPN!!!
- jimmc7722

I just read the article about that. Yeah, that was a bit of a blindside. On the one hand, it's not like the story lied about what was said, but the USA staff thought they could review the article before it was published, so those words weren't meant to be public. I guess you could say they should be careful around reporters, but they were debating who to take for Team USA...they had to speak honestly with each other.

They might be guilty though of not making sure the terms were absolutely clear. If the reporters weren't explicitly told something was off the record, then of course they're going to write it. Since both reporters seemed to think it was all OK, there was probably a communication breakdown.

I just read the article about that. Yeah, that was a bit of a blindside. On the one hand, it's not like the story lied about what was said, but the USA staff thought they could review the article before it was published, so those words weren't meant to be public. I guess you could say they should be careful around reporters, but they were debating who to take for Team USA...they had to speak honestly with each other.

They might be guilty though of not making sure the terms were absolutely clear. If the reporters weren't explicitly told something was off the record, then of course they're going to write it. Since both reporters seemed to think it was all OK, there was probably a communication breakdown.
- UIF

That article is going to ruin the writer's access in future if that's true

This was posted on the Kings blog......


Anyone see the fourth periods theory of a deal with the Isles.

Grabner for Martinez and Lewis/Carcillo



I just don't see how that trade is fair value.... But also don't know much about those players on Kings..
- Ur Not Me

Here's the article...not a good trade for Isles...

Trade Desk: Kings need scoring left wing
TheFourthPeriod.com

With the calendar flipping to 2014, NHL general managers will soon become hockey's versions of the Wolf of Wall Street.

They'll be working the phones to corner the market on assets they need to put them over the top for a Stanley Cup championship.

Between now and the March 5 trade deadline, TFP will regularly break down a team's most pressing need, at the time, with a solution on how to cash out.
In Los Angeles, a 9-1-0 run through early December had the Kings in position to take the lead in the NHL's hotly contested Pacific Division, but their Achilles' heel -- consistent offense -- has taken hold since the end of the their last home stand.

The Situation: The Kings chase the Anaheim Ducks and San Jose Sharks in their division. With the first organizational goal being a divisional title, GM Dean Lombardi has started to look outside the current roster for a solution to their scoring woes.

The Need: It seems as if the Kings are always looking for a scoring left wing. They've had players who couldn't produce but found the net after departing Hollywood, like Buffalo's Matt Moulson and Anaheim's Dustin Penner.

They Kings are getting a career year from Dwight King, but Dustin Brown's underperforming half-season doesn't improve the production needed. They've gotten little from Kyle Clifford and Daniel Carcillo, and rookie Tanner Pearson is finding his way in the AHL after a cameo appearance earlier this season.

On some nights, head coach Darryl Sutter has been reduced to putting natural right wings Trevor Lewis and Jordan Nolan on the bottom-six left side as a last resort.

The Play: You can start lining up the usual suspects for the positional need of left wing: Moulson, Calgary's Mike Cammalleri and Tampa Bay's Ryan Malone are names that have circulated around this team seemingly forever.

A more intriguing play would be with a team that has found success with former Kings Moulson and Thomas Hickey, the New York Islanders.

With Kings defenseman Alec Martinez not a particular favorite of Sutter's, and Islanders left wing Michael Grabner appearing to awaken from an awful start, a potential deal makes sense.

New York needs help along the blueline, while Los Angeles would get a wing with size and speed that fits when the eventual reuniting of Mike Richards and Jeff Carter occurs.

The Kings would likely need to throw a replacement winger for the short-term and could supply pending UFAs Carcillo or Lewis, that latter another in the long line of left wings that have struggled to produce in the Los Angeles system.

Here's the article...not a good trade for Isles...

Trade Desk: Kings need scoring left wing
TheFourthPeriod.com

With the calendar flipping to 2014, NHL general managers will soon become hockey's versions of the Wolf of Wall Street.

They'll be working the phones to corner the market on assets they need to put them over the top for a Stanley Cup championship.

Between now and the March 5 trade deadline, TFP will regularly break down a team's most pressing need, at the time, with a solution on how to cash out.
In Los Angeles, a 9-1-0 run through early December had the Kings in position to take the lead in the NHL's hotly contested Pacific Division, but their Achilles' heel -- consistent offense -- has taken hold since the end of the their last home stand.

The Situation: The Kings chase the Anaheim Ducks and San Jose Sharks in their division. With the first organizational goal being a divisional title, GM Dean Lombardi has started to look outside the current roster for a solution to their scoring woes.

The Need: It seems as if the Kings are always looking for a scoring left wing. They've had players who couldn't produce but found the net after departing Hollywood, like Buffalo's Matt Moulson and Anaheim's Dustin Penner.

They Kings are getting a career year from Dwight King, but Dustin Brown's underperforming half-season doesn't improve the production needed. They've gotten little from Kyle Clifford and Daniel Carcillo, and rookie Tanner Pearson is finding his way in the AHL after a cameo appearance earlier this season.

On some nights, head coach Darryl Sutter has been reduced to putting natural right wings Trevor Lewis and Jordan Nolan on the bottom-six left side as a last resort.

The Play: You can start lining up the usual suspects for the positional need of left wing: Moulson, Calgary's Mike Cammalleri and Tampa Bay's Ryan Malone are names that have circulated around this team seemingly forever.

A more intriguing play would be with a team that has found success with former Kings Moulson and Thomas Hickey, the New York Islanders.

With Kings defenseman Alec Martinez not a particular favorite of Sutter's, and Islanders left wing Michael Grabner appearing to awaken from an awful start, a potential deal makes sense.

New York needs help along the blueline, while Los Angeles would get a wing with size and speed that fits when the eventual reuniting of Mike Richards and Jeff Carter occurs.

The Kings would likely need to throw a replacement winger for the short-term and could supply pending UFAs Carcillo or Lewis, that latter another in the long line of left wings that have struggled to produce in the Los Angeles system.
- kear20

No way I make this deal. If I have to deal Grabner, I want to try to put a package together for Gardiner and Remier.

This was posted on the Kings blog......


Anyone see the fourth periods theory of a deal with the Isles.

Grabner for Martinez and Lewis/Carcillo



I just don't see how that trade is fair value.... But also don't know much about those players on Kings..
- Ur Not Me

Martinez is an upgrade to our bottom by a lot. He's very good. Be a good move for both teams. Lewis is a bottom 6 guy that's a good penalty killer, has some speed.

This was posted on the Kings blog......


Anyone see the fourth periods theory of a deal with the Isles.

Grabner for Martinez and Lewis/Carcillo



I just don't see how that trade is fair value.... But also don't know much about those players on Kings..
- Ur Not Me

If the Kings would give us Martinez for Grabner, I'd do that before Dean Lombardi had a chance to sleep off the liquor....

EDIT: PS- I'm sure the Kings scoring woes won't be helped by someone who scores on 3 of the 75 breakaways he has every year...

No way I make this deal. If I have to deal Grabner, I want to try to put a package together for Gardiner and Remier.
- ses111

Grabner- 38 Games, 5-7-12.....if someone wants to give me any adequate defenseman for him, I'll take it....and Alec Martinez is better than adequate....

Grabner- 38 Games, 5-7-12.....if someone wants to give me any adequate defenseman for him, I'll take it....and Alec Martinez is better than adequate....
- dcb1

Good GMs buy low and sell high. We already sold low on Niederreiter...no need to compound mistakes by doing it again. If they're hellbent on trading Grabner, then fine...do it when he hits an extended hot streak; not while he's ice cold.

Grabner- 38 Games, 5-7-12.....if someone wants to give me any adequate defenseman for him, I'll take it....and Alec Martinez is better than adequate....
- dcb1

The salary cap would play a part in this trade. It looks like per Cap Geek that the Kings seem to be against the cap. Martinez is pretty good and can QB the power play is making $1.1 million this year and next. Grabner makes $3 million this year and has two more years on his deal. So a Grabner for Martinez doesn't make sense cap wise. The Kings would have to add a player...how about AMAC and Grabner for Martinez and Justin Williams?

Same lineup as the other night. Which means donovan sits as carkner continues to get ice time

Good GMs buy low and sell high. We already sold low on Niederreiter...no need to compound mistakes by doing it again. If they're hellbent on trading Grabner, then fine...do it when he hits an extended hot streak; not while he's ice cold.
- UIF

....but if you can ALREADY get a good defenseman for him, why wouldn't you? Again, this one is just someone's idea of a rumor- I'm just saying that you wouldn't have to offer that one to me twice; it'd be done, end of story.....even if I had to eat some salary off their roster to make it happen. Grabner looks a lot prettier than he actually is- as I've said before, if Frans Nielsen was that fast, he'd be far and away the best player in the league, but this guy is a lot of flash and dash and a whole lot of nothing else. You'd think if someone had 50+ breakaways a year, plus all of the other time he spends on the ice, that he'd be a guaranteed 35 goals every year, but this guy doesn't approach that at all. I can find someone else to kill penalties if I can get a solid defenseman for him, is all I'm saying here.

....but if you can ALREADY get a good defenseman for him, why wouldn't you? Again, this one is just someone's idea of a rumor- I'm just saying that you wouldn't have to offer that one to me twice; it'd be done, end of story.....even if I had to eat some salary off their roster to make it happen. Grabner looks a lot prettier than he actually is- as I've said before, if Frans Nielsen was that fast, he'd be far and away the best player in the league, but this guy is a lot of flash and dash and a whole lot of nothing else. You'd think if someone had 50+ breakaways a year, plus all of the other time he spends on the ice, that he'd be a guaranteed 35 goals every year, but this guy doesn't approach that at all. I can find someone else to kill penalties if I can get a solid defenseman for him, is all I'm saying here.
- dcb1

Very true, As long as we aren't getting back a d-men that we already have in spades... which is a puck moving d-men. What we could really use is a bone crushing stay at home d-men.

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Same lineup as the other night. Which means donovan sits as carkner continues to get ice time
- Vukota

But... it worked the other night!!!



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....but if you can ALREADY get a good defenseman for him, why wouldn't you? Again, this one is just someone's idea of a rumor- I'm just saying that you wouldn't have to offer that one to me twice; it'd be done, end of story.....even if I had to eat some salary off their roster to make it happen. Grabner looks a lot prettier than he actually is- as I've said before, if Frans Nielsen was that fast, he'd be far and away the best player in the league, but this guy is a lot of flash and dash and a whole lot of nothing else. You'd think if someone had 50+ breakaways a year, plus all of the other time he spends on the ice, that he'd be a guaranteed 35 goals every year, but this guy doesn't approach that at all. I can find someone else to kill penalties if I can get a solid defenseman for him, is all I'm saying here.
- dcb1

I don't know much about Martinez, but isn't he sitting in LA in favor of six other guys? I just think that when Grabner's firing on all cylinders, he's more valuable -- and has more value -- than some other team's seventh defenseman. He's got flaws as a player...absolutely...and he's had a miserable first half this year there's no denying that. But I think folks have to get over the breakaway thing and see some of the good he does out there too.

It seems like people always shelter guys who have done very little over the years here and kill guys that -- while they have flaws -- have actually had success, like Moulson, Nielsen and Grabner (three favorite whipping boys here over the last couple of seasons). These are guys you shouldn't just throw away at the first offer, but hold onto and trade only for the right offer.

And the Isles have a bad habit of signing guys to extensions when they're playing over their heads, and then having to waive or buy them out later on when they crash to earth...that's poor management of assets. Sell high, buy low. Don't want to see that happen with Grabs.

I don't know much about Martinez, but isn't he sitting in LA in favor of six other guys? I just think that when Grabner's firing on all cylinders, he's more valuable -- and has more value -- than some other team's seventh defenseman. He's got flaws as a player...absolutely...and he's had a miserable first half this year there's no denying that. But I think folks have to get over the breakaway thing and see some of the good he does out there too.

It seems like people always shelter guys who have done very little over the years here and kill guys that -- while they have flaws -- have actually had success, like Moulson, Nielsen and Grabner (three favorite whipping boys here over the last couple of seasons). These are guys you shouldn't just throw away at the first offer, but hold onto and trade only for the right offer.

And the Isles have a bad habit of signing guys to extensions when they're playing over their heads, and then having to waive or buy them out later on when they crash to earth...that's poor management of assets. Sell high, buy low. Don't want to see that happen with Grabs.
- UIF

I think Grabner is worth more then he is given credit for... most importantly his PK work. He gets short handed breakaways with regularity... He may not score on them, but they kill time on the PP & really make the opposing team rush the play. It takes them off their game. If we can replace what Grabner brings to the team with someone younger, & better.. then ofcourse you move him. I just dont see that person knocking at the door yet.
I will say I have been VERY please with the work of Cal Clutterbuck on the PK.. he really is more defensively sound then he gets credit for.

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