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stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jan 3 @ 7:38 PM ET
My question to you is.... was he ever great? He is a gritty, make room for your linemates, get an occasional dirty goal player. What he has been and what is expected of him is a 40-50 pt player that gets under the other teams skin and provides screens. Thats what he is doing and is on pace for. Dont expect him to get 37 goals anymore. He is more or less a product of his linemates success. He will not do these things on his own. Much like Kunitz in Pitt. Without Crosby Kunitz doesnt even flirt with his current numbers.
- GOA88

over a full season, crosby would make kunitz mid 30s in goals and maybe 65 to 70 points.

but without crosby, kunitz is a solid nhl player in his own right. no, maybe not a point per game guy, but he would be a regular 20 to 25 goal scorer who plays a gritty two way game. solid guy for sure.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jan 3 @ 7:47 PM ET
figured id redirect some of the angst in here
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jan 3 @ 8:30 PM ET
In a keeper, who would you rather keep....Fowler or Landeskog?
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jan 3 @ 8:31 PM ET
In a keeper, who would you rather keep....Fowler or Landeskog?
- Giroux_Is_God

des
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jan 3 @ 8:31 PM ET
Did a little back reading, it was the educational equivalent of hitting myself in the forehead with a croquet mallet repeatedly.
- Jsaquella


Same here -- Sweet Mother of God. What was it, politics yesterday or the day before, race today...UGH.

Flyers need to make a trade or play Rosehill on the top line or Giroux not score for 5 or 6 games...anything to make people talk about hockey instead of that other crap
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jan 3 @ 8:40 PM ET
The Pens are beating the Rags senseless, which due to the standings, is the lesser of two evils. The Blackhawks need to turn up the heat and put the Devils down for the count
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jan 3 @ 8:57 PM ET
The Pens are beating the Rags senseless, which due to the standings, is the lesser of two evils. The Blackhawks need to turn up the heat and put the Devils down for the count
- AllInForFlyers

2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jan 3 @ 8:59 PM ET
The Pens are beating the Rags senseless, which due to the standings, is the lesser of two evils. The Blackhawks need to turn up the heat and put the Devils down for the count
- AllInForFlyers

smack em down
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jan 3 @ 9:03 PM ET

- stayinthefnnet


Your boys are doing us a straight-solid tonight by not letting this be a three-point game. For that, the Flyers will allow any potential playoff series with you to go to 6 games before they close you out.

AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jan 3 @ 9:05 PM ET
Blackhawks getting the job done too -- proving, as always, it's sure as hell better to be in a playoff spot rather than trying to catch somebody else. Rags and Devs had to take on two of the top 5 teams in the league just to attempt to get into a tie for eighth and are getting nothing and liking it
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jan 3 @ 9:12 PM ET
After 2

Val-d'Or - 1
Rimouski - 1

No points for Morin.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jan 3 @ 9:15 PM ET
After 2

Val-d'Or - 1
Rimouski - 1

No points for Morin.

- ob18


Hey, OB, if you're around, have you been able to watch Laughton at all in the World Juniors? Or Leier, if he's been playing?

Work's been crushing me and the games haven't aligned at all with my sked, but it'd be nice to know how those guys look against the kind of talent they're facing.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jan 3 @ 9:16 PM ET
Your boys are doing us a straight-solid tonight by not letting this be a three-point game. For that, the Flyers will allow any potential playoff series with you to go to 6 games before they close you out.


- AllInForFlyers

crosby is making a hell of a strong case for the hart.

honestly, id rather the two teams not match up in the playoffs if at all possible
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jan 3 @ 9:21 PM ET
Hey, OB, if you're around, have you been able to watch Laughton at all in the World Juniors? Or Leier, if he's been playing?

Work's been crushing me and the games haven't aligned at all with my sked, but it'd be nice to know how those guys look against the kind of talent they're facing.

- AllInForFlyers


not really, games have been on while at work
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jan 3 @ 9:24 PM ET
not really, games have been on while at work
- ob18


Thanks; just thought I'd ask.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jan 3 @ 9:46 PM ET
GUYS

In a keeper, where all players would be kept....

Ryan Johansen and PK Subban

or

Landeskog and Fowler

(centers get a lot of points in this league; faceoff wins are a category)
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jan 3 @ 9:57 PM ET
Final

Val-d'Or - 3
Rimouski - 5

Morin with an assist
FrmRusiaWifGlov
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Land of Single Malts-- St. Andrews, Scotland
Joined: 03.31.2013

Jan 4 @ 12:26 AM ET
GUYS

In a keeper, where all players would be kept....

Ryan Johansen and PK Subban

or

Landeskog and Fowler

(centers get a lot of points in this league; faceoff wins are a category)

- Giroux_Is_God


Hard but id say go with Ryan Johansen and PK. PK can really put up points. I believe more than Fowler will be able too. Not a bash on Fowler btw. And for the forwards I would say that Landeskog is better than Johansen but not by enough to warrant a trade. Ryan Johansen is playing really well and seems like he is progressing nicely. Try a Landeskog for Johansen deal.
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