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mighty13duck
New York Islanders
Location: New Building. New Owner. New coach Nassau County, NY
Joined: 01.26.2009

Jan 2 @ 10:09 PM ET
Do they debate a lot? I haven't noticed one recently
- TPC

Yes, particularly about the Rangers getting their own Crosby
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jan 2 @ 10:09 PM ET
Please, don't
- tomburton99

I remember you would debate with him, never realized Jimbo was to.
mighty13duck
New York Islanders
Location: New Building. New Owner. New coach Nassau County, NY
Joined: 01.26.2009

Jan 2 @ 10:11 PM ET
I remember you would debate with him, never realized Jimbo was to.
- TPC

I may be confusing them two but I think Jimbo was the first to argue with him.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jan 2 @ 10:12 PM ET
Yes, particularly about the Rangers getting their own Crosby
- mighty13duck

And that they should be easier to find. Also, they don't necessarily have to be drafted 1st overall.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jan 2 @ 10:12 PM ET
I may be confusing them two but I think Jimbo was the first to argue with him.
- mighty13duck


who, what?
mighty13duck
New York Islanders
Location: New Building. New Owner. New coach Nassau County, NY
Joined: 01.26.2009

Jan 2 @ 10:19 PM ET
who, what?
- jimbro83

iamnumber 27. Was that you or Tom?
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jan 2 @ 10:20 PM ET
iamnumber 27. Was that you or Tom?
- mighty13duck


nah, not me, I have never had a beef with that guy
mighty13duck
New York Islanders
Location: New Building. New Owner. New coach Nassau County, NY
Joined: 01.26.2009

Jan 2 @ 10:21 PM ET
nah, not me, I have never had a beef with that guy
- jimbro83

ohhh my bad
Antilles
St Louis Blues
Joined: 10.17.2008

Jan 2 @ 10:22 PM ET
I'm not saying Parise shouldn't make it, but KO is currently playing much better than him.
- Danformo


No, he isn't. He might be scoring more, but he isn't playing better. Numbers aren't everything.

If Oshie I'd just benefiting from Steen, why hasn't his production lowered since Steen's concussion?
Danformo
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2012

Jan 2 @ 10:27 PM ET
No, he isn't. He might be scoring more, but he isn't playing better. Numbers aren't everything.

If Oshie I'd just benefiting from Steen, why hasn't his production lowered since Steen's concussion?

- Antilles


You probably don't ven watch the Isles. KO has been the isles best player the last 20 games, even out scoring Tavares

Of KO's last 5 goals, in 3 games, JT has a primary assist on two of them, one of which was a rebound

And KO has much lower power play pts than Oshie, KO is a much better 5v5 scorer, not to mention idt Oshie has even eclipsed the 10 goal mark

Don't get me wrong Oshie should be on this team, but KO is much better offensively, it's not even close
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jan 2 @ 10:27 PM ET
iamnumber 27. Was that you or Tom?
- mighty13duck

Yeah that was me. The fact that he thinks Crosby's grow on trees made me go nuts. Then he just tried making fun of my name when I asked him how you go about getting player like that if you aren't terrible enough to draft 1st overall? Got no answer.
Fan101
New York Islanders
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jan 2 @ 10:40 PM ET
OK or KO but it is a bit suspicious that this team represents all of the big TV markets which also has alot to do with the big markets having many great players.

Just can't help feeling that we will be watching NBC game of the week and CBC game of the week or this is about a return on investment for viewership or throw the hockey altruism out the window. Sorry but I think Howie Rose has a point.

Just look at how they left out the small market players.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jan 2 @ 10:46 PM ET
OK or KO but it is a bit suspicious that this team represents all of the big TV markets which also has alot to do with the big markets having many great players.

Just can't help feeling that we will be watching NBC game of the week and CBC game of the week or this is about a return on investment for viewership or throw the hockey altruism out the window. Sorry but I think Howie Rose has a point.

Just look at how they left out the small market players.

- Fan101

St Louis isn't a big TV market.
Bones
Joined: 12.06.2007

Jan 2 @ 10:49 PM ET
thx for the height and weight..been looking for that
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jan 2 @ 10:53 PM ET
thx for the height and weight..been looking for that
- Bones

Almost every Olympic blog roster has that. Way to real add to a sounding hockey topic.
gkmkiller
New York Rangers
Location: Oceanside, CA
Joined: 06.07.2009

Jan 2 @ 10:55 PM ET
I'm not saying Parise shouldn't make it, but KO is currently playing much better than him.
- Danformo

Whether or not one player is better than another right now is only part of the equation. A player like Callahan who isn't playing particularly well this season has done plenty in the past to show what kind of player he is and to practically ensure his spot on the roster as long as he is healthy.

Parise has also done more than enough to get the benefit of the doubt for any slow start he may be in the midst of. And in fact he has as many goals as Okposo in 5 fewer games so Parise's having a solid season in his own right.

I may not agree with every decision they made but it is clear from the recounts by Allen and Burnside that the selection committee took their job seriously and made the best decisions in their opinion. There was plenty of debate on several players, although Okposo didn't seem to be one, and you heard a lot of the back and forth that goes into these decisions.

In all honesty I wouldn't be too upset if I was an Islanders fan that Okposo didn't make it. He's having a great year but it's only 40 games or so. By the same token I wouldn't have been upset or surprised had Stepan not made it since he hasn't played particularly well this season.

In the end there were a lot of ways they could have gone but aside from Ryan, I am not too unhappy with any of the forward selections. So Wheeler made it over Saad and Okposo. I don't think that is going to make much of a difference in the outcome of this tournament.
BobbySchmautz
New York Rangers
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Joined: 08.09.2011

Jan 2 @ 11:00 PM ET
thx for the height and weight..been looking for that
- Bones


Haha
gkmkiller
New York Rangers
Location: Oceanside, CA
Joined: 06.07.2009

Jan 2 @ 11:01 PM ET
thx for the height and weight..been looking for that
- Bones

And I'm sure you've seen the roster before too so it shouldn't have been any problem scrolling past it if it was such a problem. Apparently you had nothing constructive to add to Jan's opinions on the roster so it should be safe to assume you are complimenting his work then. I'm sure he appreciates your feedback in that case.
BobbySchmautz
New York Rangers
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Joined: 08.09.2011

Jan 2 @ 11:05 PM ET
You probably don't ven watch the Isles. KO has been the isles best player the last 20 games, even out scoring Tavares

Of KO's last 5 goals, in 3 games, JT has a primary assist on two of them, one of which was a rebound

And KO has much lower power play pts than Oshie, KO is a much better 5v5 scorer, not to mention idt Oshie has even eclipsed the 10 goal mark

Don't get me wrong Oshie should be on this team, but KO is much better offensively, it's not even close

- Danformo


Ihave always liked KO and was wishing the rags would have tried
To grab him when his stock was pretty low a few years ago. Good to
See him putting it all together. That being said, a good half season -flanking JT-
Is nothing compared to what Ryan has done for the past 4 years.
Now THAT is a snub.
BobbySchmautz
New York Rangers
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Joined: 08.09.2011

Jan 2 @ 11:08 PM ET
And I'm sure you've seen the roster before too so it shouldn't have been any problem scrolling past it if it was such a problem. Apparently you had nothing constructive to add to Jan's opinions on the roster so it should be safe to assume you are complimenting his work then. I'm sure he appreciates your feedback in that case.
- gkmkiller


I took that to be a joke -and a lighthearted one at that -more toward
Whomever publishes the roster, not a poke at Jan; Bones?
gkmkiller
New York Rangers
Location: Oceanside, CA
Joined: 06.07.2009

Jan 2 @ 11:37 PM ET
I took that to be a joke -and a lighthearted one at that -more toward
Whomever publishes the roster, not a poke at Jan; Bones?

- BobbySchmautz

Usually one and dones, one line and gone, who don't visit this forum I don't assume they are joking. But I actually intended humor in my response too. So no harm, no foul.
usmcaaron
St Louis Blues
Location: United States, MO
Joined: 05.20.2008

Jan 2 @ 11:52 PM ET
I am not a huge Oshie fan, think he is a PP specialist who has benefited from playing with Alexander Steen, but he will see time on the man advantage in Sochi. Oh, and I just saw Okposo get the GWG in OT against Chicago on Thursday with the Coliseum chanting USA after he scored. Think they wanted him to go? I personally think he deserved a spot, possibly over Wheeler or maybe Oshie, but pretty close.
- Jan Levine



And KO has much lower power play pts than Oshie, KO is a much better 5v5 scorer, not to mention idt Oshie has even eclipsed the 10 goal mark

Don't get me wrong Oshie should be on this team, but KO is much better offensively, it's not even close

- Danformo



Clearly, both of you have never watched TJ Oshie play. He's one of the best all-purpose players in the NHL, playing in every situation. Even a quick stat check will show you how inaccurate your statements are.
Poweplay specialist? 9 outta 35 pts. on the powerplay is not just some specialist
Benefiting from Steen? Oshie has 5 pts in the 5 games since Steen was injured.
Okposo with the GWG tonight? Oshie had 2 goals, inc. the game winner tonight.
Okposo with much lower powerplay points? Actually, he has 10 pts compared to Oshie's 9, inc. tonight.
Much better 5v5 than Oshie? Okposo with 30 even strength pts, compared to Oshie's 25. That's even with getting a chance to play with Tavares who is one of the top 5 players in the NHL, & better than any of Oshie's linemates.

The only thing you got correct was that no, Oshie has not.eclipsed 10 goals yet. He has 8, but Okposo's 15 is no record breaker. I honestly like Okposo as a player, and he is having a career year, but when he has only 7 more points than Oshie, while playing with Tavares, to say he is much better offensively & it's not even close is asinine. Also, he is not the 2-way player Oshie is. Therefore Oshie is more deserving of a spot on the team, IMHO.
cranford93
New York Rangers
Location: "For Whatever Reason"
Joined: 04.30.2007

Jan 3 @ 6:27 AM ET
KO should be on this team, an could easily play a top 6 role over Parise or JVR and have Kane shift to LW, and KO can also play a checking role. KO is on pace for 82 pts... I guess USA has too much firepower to take him

Byf Yandle KO and Bishop should be on this team over Orpik Fowler Wheeler and Howard

- Danformo



They're moving Kane to LW to accommodate Okposo, I don't need to read anymore comments, #1 takes it!
cranford93
New York Rangers
Location: "For Whatever Reason"
Joined: 04.30.2007

Jan 3 @ 6:37 AM ET
No, he isn't. He might be scoring more, but he isn't playing better. Numbers aren't everything.

If Oshie I'd just benefiting from Steen, why hasn't his production lowered since Steen's concussion?

- Antilles

I'm a big Oshie guy, the 2 that surprised more than anyone else at forward were Stepan and Pacioretty, but I understand the 5th Center, I don't think he'll play that much, Fowler and Faulk over guys like Yandle and Jack Johnson plus Howard over Schneider especially I have a bigger problem with

Team USA is still in very good shape, Kane is going to amaze us some more
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 3 @ 6:39 AM ET
No, he isn't. He might be scoring more, but he isn't playing better. Numbers aren't everything.

If Oshie I'd just benefiting from Steen, why hasn't his production lowered since Steen's concussion?

- Antilles

Okposo has been playing incredibly well on both sides of the puck. Points aren't everything you are correct but that's exactly why okposo is playing good. He's scoring the points, forechecking effectively, and playing great in his own end. Not even arguing him not getting picked but give credit where credit is due. I'm guessing you haven't been watching him which is fine but when you don't watch a player and post something like this it doesn't help your point. A lot of people are saying points aren't everything and like to point out okposos four goals last year which is hysterical. You're kind of going against you're own point. Anyone who watched our team last year knew okposo was our best player next to tavares(and that's debatable)from December on so anyone saying this is his only consistent good play since being drafted is off base. Who cares that he didn't get picked but to say its stupid to think he should've is pretty dumb in itself. I think I used the word point about five times in this post?
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