Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Finland, Germany, France, Italy, Spain, U.K.--all to some extent socialist countries but with relatively free markets.

NK and China are Communist systems with centrally planned economies.

there is a significant difference both politically and economically. you may want to look into it to be able to discuss more knowledgeably, but not here.
- bodiva88

Actually this is the list of declared socialist countires.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w...declared_socialist_states

And have you seen how bad France and Spain are? Spain has whole Cities that arent just bankrupt, but deserted. They have airports that have shutdown and the worst employment... And the UK is no longer socialist.

I thought you were meeting FlyersGrace and I on 12/21?

Of course she hasn't been on the threads since so there's a good chance I killed her and buried the body.
- mayorofangrytown

I completely forgot.

Without getting into a political discussion, the only time I said that is when you mentioned your support of Socialism. I'm not getting into a discussion about it, but google countries that have a socialist government and tell me which ones you would like to live in. I mean with countires like China and North Korea leading the list....

Anyway, when it comes to hockey I really dont see nations. I will root for USA all the way, but I will also throw my support behind Canada and Russia. Above all I just want to watch some great hockey.

I wonder if Kovalchuk is playing for team Russia. And I wonder if my IDOLS Nichushkin and Yakupov make the team.
- youarewrong

socialism, captialism ... all systems pretty much benefit the extreme wealthy
difference is with capitalism i can work hard and keep my money at the end of the day (more if it wasn't for those damn liberals)

I'd be upset. Even though there are no Flyers on the USA roster I'm rooting for the kids born and raised on US soil.

Why wouldn't I?
- mayorofangrytown

You're a great American. I'll crack a beer with ya to that.

What if Giroux leads the tournament in scoring and nets the gold medal winning goal against the US? Would you be upset or happy?
- PhillySportsGuy

good for him?

I thought you were meeting FlyersGrace and I on 12/21?

Of course she hasn't been on the threads since so there's a good chance I killed her and buried the body.
- mayorofangrytown

I thought you were meeting FlyersGrace and I on 12/21?

Of course she hasn't been on the threads since so there's a good chance I killed her and buried the body.
- mayorofangrytown

You don't bury the body. You take it to the woods, have your way with it, and burn it, then take the remains and dump them in the river in a sack filled with concrete. Fool.

http://www.tsn.ca/videohu...collection=72&show=268239
- johndewar

Richard move by that Hartman kid.

socialism, captialism ... all systems pretty much benefit the extreme wealthy
difference is with capitalism i can work hard and keep my money at the end of the day (more if it wasn't for those damn liberals)
- 2Real

I think the major difference is in capitalism people with money have power. In Socialism people in the government have power.

In my experience, business people know how to run things on a budget. Governement doesn't care 1 bit about budget. Why? Because expences come out of the business's pocket, while expenses by the government come out of everyone's pocket.

Richard move by that Hartman kid.
- Scoob

Yeah, it was.

There was nothing to be proud of on either side, really.

You don't bury the body. You take it to the woods, have your way with it, and burn it, then take the remains and dump them in the river in a sack filled with concrete. Fool.
- jmatchett383

My suggestion is to find a pig farmer. But never trust said pig farmer.

Richard move by that Hartman kid.
- Scoob

moral of the story is don't taunt

I think the major difference is in capitalism people with money have power. In Socialism people in the government have power.

In my experience, business people know how to run things on a budget. Governement doesn't care 1 bit about budget. Why? Because expences come out of the business's pocket, while expenses by the government come out of everyone's pocket.
- youarewrong

Apparently just not banks.

Shawn McKenzie ‏@ShawnMcKenzieSN 13m
Ryan also said that the Burke's comments about him were "gutless"

Shawn McKenzie ‏@ShawnMcKenzieSN 9m
When Ryan said it was gutless he wasn't angry looking for a chance to take a shot at Burke. Seemed genuinely upset.
- Feanor

I'm with Ryan. Burke's comments were out of line and unprofessional. What an bumhole.

You don't bury the body. You take it to the woods, have your way with it, and burn it, then take the remains and dump them in the river in a sack filled with concrete. Fool.
- jmatchett383

No. no. Watch Dexter. You traq them and have your fun, then cuth the body into pieces, put in trash bags, weigh them down with rocks and dump them into the gulf stream.

I think the major difference is in capitalism people with money have power. In Socialism people in the government have power.

In my experience, business people know how to run things on a budget. Governement doesn't care 1 bit about budget. Why? Because expences come out of the business's pocket, while expenses by the government come out of everyone's pocket.
- youarewrong

in socialism the government has all the money so you have an elite group within the government and the common person doesn't have poop or any incentive to work hard etc.
government should be given as little money as possible because they just waste it
also there should be no such thing as a career politician which is why our founding fathers wanted term limits

I'm with Ryan. Burke's comments were out of line and unprofessional. What an bumhole.
- Giroux_Is_God

i hope burke gets (frank)ing embarrassed

Yeah, it was.

There was nothing to be proud of on either side, really.
- johndewar

Agreed, but the Hartman transgression was far worse.

You don't bury the body. You take it to the woods, have your way with it, and burn it, then take the remains and dump them in the river in a sack filled with concrete. Fool.
- jmatchett383

I can get sloppy when I'm out of state.

moral of the story is don't taunt
- 2Real

Huh...that's not my takeaway from that.

Apparently just not banks.
- wolfhounds

You should do some homework. It was a bi-partisan decision during the Clinton era that lead to the affordable housing act, forcing banks to make loans to high risk individuals. When the banks refused, the government passed a bill that would allow the banks to sell these mortgages to government insured fannie may and freddie mac. Why would banks not do this? In Bush's time they tried to fix this, but it was opposed by a certain party. When the recession hit, all the people the bought out of what they could afford defaulted, and the banks couldnt recover because even foreclosed houses werent selling.

Its the perfect example of how a "good idea" like making it easier for poor people to afford houses, has consequences.

Agreed, but the Hartman transgression was far worse.
- Scoob

I wouldn't go that far, but OK.

Huh...that's not my takeaway from that.
- Scoob

What would be the takeaway for you?

Huh...that's not my takeaway from that.
- Scoob

sure it is if you're going to do something be prepared for the consequences

You should do some homework. It was a bi-partisan decision during the Clinton era that lead to the affordable housing act, forcing banks to make loans to high risk individuals. When the banks refused, the government passed a bill that would allow the banks to sell these mortgages to government insured fannie may and freddie mac. Why would banks not do this? In Bush's time they tried to fix this, but it was opposed by a certain party. When the recession hit, all the people the bought out of what they could afford defaulted, and the banks couldnt recover because even foreclosed houses werent selling.

Its the perfect example of how a "good idea" like making it easier for poor people to afford houses, has consequences.
- youarewrong

yea the sad fact of life is you're not entitled to a house you work for it
too many people don't realize this and think they can just ask for free hand outs from those who actually work hard