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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 31 @ 12:51 PM ET
Giveaways per 60 minutes:

Meszaros: 2.81
Gustafsson: 2.13
Grossmann: 1.93
Coburn: 1.75
Timonen: 1.39
L. Schenn: 1.23
Streit: 1.22

It's science.

- Moose_15


Stop with your conjuring of facts, wizard.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Dec 31 @ 12:51 PM ET
this team is so weird.

do you think there will be any significant deadline moves if they are healthy and remain around the same position they are in now?
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Dec 31 @ 12:52 PM ET
this team is so weird.

do you think there will be any significant deadline moves if they are healthy and remain around the same position they are in now?

- Crimsoninja


I think the artificially lowered cap is going to make for a very quiet trade deadline.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 31 @ 12:53 PM ET
I thought that was rather kind. You obviously haven't seen me get mean.
- mayorofangrytown


You wouldn't like to see him get mean. He grows all big and turns green...you know, The Incredible Godzilla.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Dec 31 @ 12:53 PM ET
They don't have a Tim Tebow either.

So it stands to reason they have much, much less to cover.

- Moose_15


Tebow has God on his side, so there's that.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Dec 31 @ 12:53 PM ET
When US covers college players, they don't care where they were born just how much talent they have.
- mayorofangrytown


Did you ever think its because 95% of all college players are US born? I can sure understand why Canada might do that. If Canada only has 1 Basketball team, then why woudlnt they want to follow the players from thier home country?

The only reason the US doesnt do that is because we have 4 major sports with the majority of our citizens playing in these sports.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 31 @ 12:53 PM ET
this team is so weird.

do you think there will be any significant deadline moves if they are healthy and remain around the same position they are in now?

- Crimsoninja


12 1sts for Jagr should get them over the hump.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Dec 31 @ 12:54 PM ET
Perhaps I'm not understanding the nuance of this debate, but I'm going to have to disagree with the bold above... Canada has a population smaller than the state of California, so it stands to reason they have much less to cover.
- wolfhounds

If you're covering major North American sports on a one hour show how do you have less to cover whether you're in Detroit or Toronto. I'd rather vigorously argue that they cover MORE sports than a US broadcast. They give full coverage to the NFL, NHL, NBA and MLB plus US and Canadian college sports, CFL, Curling and Soccer along with the CHL and International play which all get far less coverage in the US.
Moose_15
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Rat Patrol, PA
Joined: 02.15.2013

Dec 31 @ 12:57 PM ET
12 1sts for Jagr should get them over the hump.
- jmatchett383


Does it come with a Full NTC/NMC and a 7-year max contract?
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Dec 31 @ 12:57 PM ET
Did you ever think its because 95% of all college players are US born? I can sure understand why Canada might do that. If Canada only has 1 Basketball team, then why woudlnt they want to follow the players from thier home country?

The only reason the US doesnt do that is because we have 4 major sports with the majority of our citizens playing in these sports.

- youarewrong

I'm not saying it's right or wrong. I kinda like it. I'm saying that's why we know the Canadian team at the WJCs more than the US team despite the fact we live in the US. We get it through all the Hockey we watch that's broadcast from Canada plus NHLNetork coverage.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Dec 31 @ 12:57 PM ET
this team is so weird.

do you think there will be any significant deadline moves if they are healthy and remain around the same position they are in now?

- Crimsoninja


If the team is in a solid playoff position, I can definitely see a defenseman being brought in. Someone with mobility and puck moving ability.

It shows how good how Mason has been this year, this defense core is really bad.
How the hell was L. Schenn a -3 in a game the Flyers won allowing 3 goals. That's damn near impossible. He keeps getting worse.

I was surprised no one predicted a Sestito goal yesterday, perhaps it was a given, and didn't need to be mentioned.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Dec 31 @ 12:57 PM ET
There's a nationalist bias in their coverage and coverage of Canadian based teams is reflective of that but so also is their coverage of Canadian born players. They promote them more than the US does. It's more of the little sister to the North thing.

If the original question is "Why do were know Canadian prospects more than US prospects?" It's because Canadian media promotes their athletes more. They do that because they choose to, not because they have less to cover.

- mayorofangrytown


I dont think thats correct. I think the reason you dont know the US prospects as much is because Junior Hockey is a major attraction in Canada, like College Football is in the US. Did being American hurt Seth Jone's coverage? Was he any less touted? How about JVR?
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Dec 31 @ 12:58 PM ET
You wouldn't like to see him get mean. He grows all big and turns green...you know, The Incredible Godzilla.
- jmatchett383

I love Godzilla.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 31 @ 12:58 PM ET
Does it come with a Full NTC/NMC and a 7-year max contract?
- Moose_15


Don't be silly. Once they get his rights, its an 8 year deal.
Moose_15
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Rat Patrol, PA
Joined: 02.15.2013

Dec 31 @ 12:58 PM ET
Tebow has God on his side, so there's that.
- wolfhounds


God must really want him to be an ESPN analyst then.
Sure as heckfire doesn't want him to play that dang Foosball.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 31 @ 12:59 PM ET
I love Godzilla.
- mayorofangrytown


See previews for the new one? Looks amazing yet terrible for all of the wrong reasons.
Moose_15
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Rat Patrol, PA
Joined: 02.15.2013

Dec 31 @ 12:59 PM ET
Don't be silly. Once they get his rights, its an 8 year deal.
- jmatchett383



I sure love those 35+ contracts.
Oh boy, oh boy.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Dec 31 @ 1:00 PM ET
I dont think thats correct. I think the reason you dont know the US prospects as much is because Junior Hockey is a major attraction in Canada, like College Football is in the US. Did being American hurt Seth Jone's coverage? Was he any less touted? How about JVR?
- youarewrong

I think you're tangenting away from the actual argument. You're talking about top 4 picks in the draft. Anyone who follows hockey as closely as we do know all of those guys regardless.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 31 @ 1:00 PM ET
God must really want him to be an ESPN analyst then.
Sure as heckfire doesn't want him to play that dang Foosball.

- Moose_15


According to Ray Lewis, he also likes you to kill people then roll on your friends.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Dec 31 @ 1:01 PM ET
If you're covering major North American sports on a one hour show how do you have less to cover whether you're in Detroit or Toronto. I'd rather vigorously argue that they cover MORE sports than a US broadcast. They give full coverage to the NFL, NHL, NBA and MLB plus US and Canadian college sports, CFL, Curling and Soccer along with the CHL and International play which all get far less coverage in the US.
- mayorofangrytown


Your position is Canadian outlets cover more sports with more depth than their American counterparts who focus on fewer sports but go deeper with their selective coverage?
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Dec 31 @ 1:01 PM ET
See previews for the new one? Looks amazing yet terrible for all of the wrong reasons.
- jmatchett383

Yeah, I'n anxious to watch it but I'll be gritting my teeth and watching through one eye the whole time. It can't be worse than Matthew Broderick can it?
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Dec 31 @ 1:02 PM ET
this team is so weird.

do you think there will be any significant deadline moves if they are healthy and remain around the same position they are in now?

- Crimsoninja



yes

maybe

who knows
Moose_15
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Rat Patrol, PA
Joined: 02.15.2013

Dec 31 @ 1:02 PM ET
If the team is in a solid playoff position, I can definitely see a defenseman being brought in. Someone with mobility and puck moving ability.

It shows how good how Mason has been this year, this defense core is really bad.
How the hell was L. Schenn a -3 in a game the Flyers won allowing 3 goals. That's damn near impossible. He keeps getting worse.

I was surprised no one predicted a Sestito goal yesterday, perhaps it was a given, and didn't need to be mentioned.

- PLindbergh31


Schenn was a minus 3 because he was paired with Meszaros--who blew his coverage on two goals.

The third goal was just bad luck.

Put Schenn back with Timonen (like last year) and let him simplify his game--(hit, pass to Timonen, repeat).
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Dec 31 @ 1:03 PM ET
Your position is Canadian outlets cover more sports with more depth than their American counterparts who focus on fewer sports but go deeper with their selective coverage?
- wolfhounds

I'm saying, despite covering a wider variety of sports on a regular basis they bias their coverage toward their native sons and do a hell of a job of it.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Dec 31 @ 1:03 PM ET
God must really want him to be an ESPN analyst then.
Sure as heckfire doesn't want him to play that dang Foosball.

- Moose_15


I love me some Foosball.

No spinning, Tebow!

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