I'm not even worried.
- Scabeh

Besides the fact that even theoretically, Pacioretty for MDZ would be Gomez Trade 2.0.

hatred.
- muffin_man

And Marc Bergevin is stupid enough to deal 2 players entering their prime years in favour of a coach who, either way, is almost halfway through his shelf life.

Besides the fact that even theoretically, Pacioretty for MDZ would be Gomez Trade 2.0.
- S Kaspar Rollins

Subban secretely hates Therrien because he banned the "triple low five" celebration.
- Scabeh

surprised he hasn't Roy'd Therrien yet.

Subban secretely hates Therrien because he banned the "triple low five" celebration.
- Scabeh

And Marc Bergevin is stupid enough to deal 2 players entering their prime years in favour of a coach who, either way, is almost halfway through his shelf life.
- scotch_tape

Worth it.

Even if you assume that the players all hate Therrien and the team is suffering because of it (which seems to be Ek's entirely made up angle here):

Seriously, look in NHL history at situations where there was a feud between a star player and a coach, and the team ended up siding with the coach and trading the player, how many times did it work out for the team?

for what its worth, this was also all in the hockey news as well...so it has been also reported in the "mainstream" hockey media...regardless of how reliable THN is anymore

And Marc Bergevin is stupid enough to deal 2 players entering their prime years in favour of a coach who, either way, is almost halfway through his shelf life.
- scotch_tape

Well to be fair, good francophone coaches are increasingly hard to find. Maybe that's Ek's thinking here.

Even if you assume that the players all hate Therrien and the team is suffering because of it (which seems to be Ek's entirely made up angle here):

Seriously, look in NHL history at situations where there was a feud between a star player and a coach, and the team ended up siding with the coach and trading the player, how many times did it work out for the team?
- S Kaspar Rollins

No player to ever play for Scotty Bowman will tell you they liked him as their coach. They loved winning and knew he was a huge part of it but he was a SOB.


But hey, we don't talk to the players in the room and all of the other bloggers who follow the Canadiens are afraid to speak out so it's a good thing we have Ek letting us have the inside scoop

MDZ isn't drawing big returns, I agree but the rangers are not even close to trading Nash for anyone... PAC is not close to value in the rangers mind
- Eklund

but sather believes pacs and mdz ARE close in value?




there, ive given u your hit. now stop with the nonsense

No GM in the league is stupid enough to get fleeced for Del Zotto and giving up Patches, especially Bergevin

Well to be fair, good francophone coaches are increasingly hard to find. Maybe that's Ek's thinking here.
- S Kaspar Rollins

Scarface

Montréal is second in the Atlantic, surely Pacioretty and Subban are smart enough to realize that what Therrien is doing is making wonders.

but sather believes pacs and mdz ARE close in value?


- hugefemale dog77

Pac 1st, Tinordi for MDZ. Can't you read? Pac isn't close in value on his own

but sather believes pacs and mdz ARE close in value?


- hugefemale dog77

Don't be surprised if he gets a good return for MDZ. Ripoff trades have always been a specialty of Sather

Though not Pacioretty or a player like him.

for what its worth, this was also all in the hockey news as well...so it has been also reported in the "mainstream" hockey media...regardless of how reliable THN is anymore
- TheMike12

you mean pacioretty for MDZ or the "feud"??

Don't be surprised if he gets a good return for MDZ. Ripoff trades have always been a specialty of Sather
- S Kaspar Rollins

Yea, he's done wonders building that team

for what its worth, this was also all in the hockey news as well...so it has been also reported in the "mainstream" hockey media...regardless of how reliable THN is anymore
- TheMike12

It's been in the mainstream Canadian media for 3 years now how PK is despised by everyone everywhere.

you mean pacioretty for MDZ or the "feud"??
- muffin_man

Pacioretty rumors are everywhere BUT people need to note they're of the "teams are aggressively calling about him" not the "Habs are listening" variety. Huge difference

Yea, he's done wonders building that team
- muffin_man

Let's just say he's better at trades than UFA signings.

you mean pacioretty for MDZ or the "feud"??
- muffin_man

therien not being a fan of pacioretti and the habs have been quietly shopping him.

i read it 2 days ago and was surprised to read it.

nothing in there on subban, but i think thats been around for awhile regardless of being true or not (which i obviously have no idea) and nothing on an actual trade offer

Pacioretty rumors are everywhere BUT people need to note they're of the "teams are aggressively calling about him" not the "Habs are listening" variety. Huge difference
- S Kaspar Rollins

Yup. Bergevin confirmed that.

Don't be surprised if he gets a good return for MDZ. Ripoff trades have always been a specialty of Sather

Though not Pacioretty or a player like him.
- S Kaspar Rollins

a good return for mdz would be a 3rd liner AND a decent pick/prospect. I wouldn't even do that, but depending on how much said gm wants another potential puck mover, it's plausible.

end of the day, the habs are far worse with mdz in the lineup than with pacs. this conversation shouldn't even be taking place

It's been in the mainstream Canadian media for 3 years now how PK is despised by everyone everywhere.
- scotch_tape

everyone is racist probably