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Schenn2shine
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.26.2011

Dec 27 @ 3:13 PM ET
that is one thing i will definitely agree on that i feel as though the average person might not notice. emery does seem to either draw a really tough opponent, or like a throwaway game in which no one seems up for it. i realize such is the life of a backup goalie, but its hard to have shimmering stats when those are the only games you really get
- stayinthefnnet

I wanna keep Emery beyond this season and until Anthony Schultz is ready to play with the big boys but I feel like Berube is helping in making a touch case for Emery. It's not all on the coaching but again, the coaching isn't helping.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Dec 27 @ 3:20 PM ET
I wanna keep Emery beyond this season and until Anthony Stolarz is ready to play with the big boys but I feel like Berube is helping in making a touch case for Emery. It's not all on the coaching but again, the coaching isn't helping.
- Schenn2shine

FTFY

How is Berube making it tough on Emery? He is playing with the guy that gives the team a better chance to win. Emery hasnt been that guy. He has faired well in spot duty, but that job has to be earned.

stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Dec 27 @ 3:20 PM ET
I wanna keep Emery beyond this season and until Anthony Schultz is ready to play with the big boys but I feel like Berube is helping in making a touch case for Emery. It's not all on the coaching but again, the coaching isn't helping.
- Schenn2shine

i agree
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Dec 27 @ 3:26 PM ET
I would love to see Emery back another season.

I do like how Berube is rotating the goalies. With Lavi he would run with the hot hand until they were burned out and then switch.
Schenn2shine
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.26.2011

Dec 27 @ 3:32 PM ET
FTFY

How is Berube making it tough on Emery? He is playing with the guy that gives the team a better chance to win. Emery hasnt been that guy. He has faired well in spot duty, but that job has to be earned.

- jak521

I already explained in a detailed post one page prior to this one.
Benway
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.22.2006

Dec 27 @ 3:34 PM ET
Joacim Eriksson sighting! Based on the string of torrid debuts from rookie goalies, I'm guessing that lack will go down and then "Sunshine" will win 12 consecutive starts with a 0.33 GAA and a .972 save percentage.

http://vansunsportsblogs....ep-him-out-of-the-lineup/
Schenn2shine
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.26.2011

Dec 27 @ 3:36 PM ET
I think Emery would be a decent trade deadline candidate. I don't see him returning next season, even though I would like him to.

If I was a playoff bound tea, I'd love to add him.

- flyer_nutter

I think the Flyers should be more concerned of how to keep Emery at a reasonable price than trading him. If you trade Emery, who backs up Mason?
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Dec 27 @ 3:37 PM ET
I think the Flyers should be more concerned of how to keep Emery at a reasonable price than trading him. If you trade Emery, who backs up Mason?
- Schenn2shine

emery is a good backup signed for peanuts. if you can convince him to re up for similar terms, if its not broke why fix it?
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Dec 27 @ 3:39 PM ET
I think the Flyers should be more concerned of how to keep Emery at a reasonable price than trading him. If you trade Emery, who backs up Mason?
- Schenn2shine


It takes two to tango.

This plan requires Emery wanting to be a back up.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Dec 27 @ 3:40 PM ET
Joacim Eriksson sighting! Based on the string of torrid debuts from rookie goalies, I'm guessing that lack will go down and then "Sunshine" will win 12 consecutive starts with a 0.33 GAA and a .972 save percentage.

http://vansunsportsblogs....ep-him-out-of-the-lineup/

- Benway

Flyers usually excel against back ups.

johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Dec 27 @ 3:41 PM ET
I'd like to see the Pens go up against the Hawks in the final.

I respect the Bruins, but too much Neanderthal hockey lately in the league.

- flyer_nutter


I think that would be a good final series if the Flyers can't make it.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Dec 27 @ 3:43 PM ET
Dupuis is way down the list on Pens I love to hate.

The way freak injuries happen against the Senators, I would just sit Crosby next time they play.

- Marc D


Dupuis was a pretty good throw in in that Hossa trade, where the Penguins traded a couple of bags of practice pucks and a first round pick for Hossa and Dupuis.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Dec 27 @ 3:48 PM ET
So.....One of Patrick Roy's kids kinda melted down a bit.....

http://www.ottawasun.com/...cup-throws-temper-tantrum
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Dec 27 @ 3:57 PM ET
I wasn't exactly psyched to hear Berube was the new coach, but he's been alright. I'm not really sure the turn around is because of him, or because of a combination of the removal of Laviolette and players stepping up.
Schenn2shine
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.26.2011

Dec 27 @ 3:59 PM ET
It takes two to tango.

This plan requires Emery wanting to be a back up.

- johndewar

I never said otherwise but I would think Emery has been more than reasonable since going to Russia, recoving from what could have been a career ending injury when he last played here and stints as a back up in Anaheim, Chicago and to Philly for a second stint.
Schenn2shine
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.26.2011

Dec 27 @ 4:08 PM ET
emery is a good backup signed for peanuts. if you can convince him to re up for similar terms, if its not broke why fix it?
- stayinthefnnet

This is up to the Flyers and whether or not they want to bring him back. This is also up to the player who's actually signed for more than our starting goaltender Steve Mason. Right now Emery has a record of 3-7-0, which is why I worry we might lose him. I don't wanna lose either goaltender, plus we have to find away to possibly keep Steve Downie and Brayden Schenn. Steve Mason himself also needs to be resigned.
Schenn2shine
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.26.2011

Dec 27 @ 4:15 PM ET
I wasn't exactly psyched to hear Berube was the new coach, but he's been alright. I'm not really sure the turn around is because of him, or because of a combination of the removal of Laviolette and players stepping up.
- BulliesPhan87

I still think it's a little silly to have considered him a new, fresh voice since taking over. Berube has been around as long as John Stevens was. Craig Berube had no choice to adjust the system when taking over. Personally feel Laviolette could have done the same job and I miss the timely timeouts during key moments of a game. I would have highered from outside of the organization but fortunately for the Flyers, we are just not getting back on track.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Dec 27 @ 4:17 PM ET
Edmonton Oilers ‏@EdmontonOilers 2h
Dubnyk plays tonight vs. CGY, Bryz starts tomorrow vs. PHI.
OrangeAndBlack1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'm not telling.
Joined: 11.29.2011

Dec 27 @ 4:19 PM ET
Thanks Bill; my Pat Summerall impression

I think that the Flyers need a guy big guy who will go to the net, and just sit there. Too many times in the "O" Zone, nobody has been willing to stand in front of the net. Hence, the one shot, and done routine. I have been looking at the UFA's, and reading about the players on the Hockey News. In my opinion, David Moss might be a good pick-up. He has size, can play all three forward positions, and is easy on the cap space. He isn't a first line center, but he could be a third or fourth line guy.
For the "D" Zone, I think we need someone who could clear the crease, and have a little bit of nasty to him. I know that Pronger is done, but we need to find someone with a similar playing style. In addition, we need to prepare for next year. Thus, I have found Mark Fistric. He is strong on the puck, and is a little nasty. Yes, you will sacrifice some speed here, but you get a solid D-man that will make some forwards think twice about going to the net. Remember that Pronger wasn't known for his speed. Then, the cap hit isn't too bad.
I also have been looking at Aton Belov. Yes, I know he laid one on G a while ago, but he is an interesting player to consider. He is a solid D-man, that can skate, and move the puck. Also, he is a good cap hit.
The rest of the UFA's don't look much better than what we already have. All the good D-men are all taken up, and locked in.
That being said, check out the video on these guys over at the "Tube," and see what you think about these guys.
Thanks.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 27 @ 4:23 PM ET
Berube: He's been a .500 coach. It's not going to get much better than that with the current roster. I don't know if he can do better with a more appropriate roster, but he's certainly earned the opportunity should management finally decide that they're not happy with a mediocre team.

They're in playoff contention right now simply because every team in the division stinks (or is "inconsistent") except Pittsburgh.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Dec 27 @ 4:24 PM ET
Edmonton Oilers ‏@EdmontonOilers 2h
Dubnyk plays tonight vs. CGY, Bryz starts tomorrow vs. PHI.

- PLindbergh31

BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Dec 27 @ 4:24 PM ET
I still think it's a little silly to have considered him a new, fresh voice since taking over. Berube has been around as long as John Stevens was. Craig Berube had no choice to adjust the system when taking over. Personally feel Laviolette could have done the same job and I miss the timely timeouts during key moments of a game. I would have highered from outside of the organization but fortunately for the Flyers, we are just not getting back on track.
- Schenn2shine

Yeah, I don't think of him as a fresh voice. I think Laviolette's time had come, his way of running the game wasn't working and he didn't seem to be willing to try a different way. I still think he's a fine coach, I hope he gets another stint in the NHL.

As for hiring from outside the organization, I'm not particularly for or against. I agree with those who say the Flyers shouldn't be married to hiring guys who've already been in the fold. Where I disagree, though, is with the perception that an "outsider" is an inherently better option. Personally, it doesn't matter if a guy has been a Flyer before. You hire the guy who seems most capable of doing the job.

My biggest problem when they hired Berube wasn't that Berube got the job, but that they didn't do this back when they had more options available.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Dec 27 @ 4:41 PM ET
I never said otherwise but I would think Emery has been more than reasonable since going to Russia, recoving from what could have been a career ending injury when he last played here and stints as a back up in Anaheim, Chicago and to Philly for a second stint.
- Schenn2shine


It's a long season and things could change for Emery quickly.

I just think it's premature to pencil him in as a backup option for any team as he might want to go somewhere with a chance to carry the load.

Would love to have him back if it's feasible.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Dec 27 @ 4:42 PM ET
Edmonton Oilers ‏@EdmontonOilers 2h
Dubnyk plays tonight vs. CGY, Bryz starts tomorrow vs. PHI.

- PLindbergh31


I'm guessing Bryz will have no problems with focus tomorrow night.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Dec 27 @ 4:44 PM ET
This is up to the Flyers and whether or not they want to bring him back. This is also up to the player who's actually signed for more than our starting goaltender Steve Mason. Right now Emery has a record of 3-7-0, which is why I worry we might lose him. I don't wanna lose either goaltender, plus we have to find away to possibly keep Steve Downie and Brayden Schenn. Steve Mason himself also needs to be resigned.
- Schenn2shine


I can't imagine it will take that much to lock Brayden Schenn down.

Downie and Mason, I'm a bit worried about. Not money, so much, as term.

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