no no... go and look and tell me.
- Dozzer

Go look at what?

yes or no.. a good agitator is something the leafs are missing?

also.. carlyle is such a damned red neck western canadian i am surprised there is any euro talent left on the team.
- Dozzer

Kadri agitates.

So does Phaneuf.

So does Clarkson.

It's classic Leafs fan think - fall in love with one thing a guy does well, and conveniently overlook the 99 things he is lousy at.

Go look at what?
- Feeling Glucky?

the stats

Kadri agitates.

So does Phaneuf.

So does Clarkson.

It's classic Leafs fan think - fall in love with one thing a guy does well, and conveniently overlook the 99 things he is lousy at.
- Atomic Wedgie

all of which take a lot of dumb penalties that komarov didnt.

ESPECIALLY clarkson

who generates the same offense as Komarov from 4x the $

the stats
- Dozzer

Stats don't get brought up when Bozak is 1C.

Stats don't get brought up when Bozak is 1C.
- iTOLDu

touche

the stats
- Dozzer

which ones in particular?

The ones that show how teams don't score as much vs the Leafs when he's on the ice?
The ones that show how the Leafs score more when he's on the ice?
The ones that say he faces some of the toughest competition league-wide?
the ones that show how he ends more shifts in the offensive zone than he starts there?
The ones that show how many shots he blocks?
the ones that show how how many hits he gets?

I'm just curious, is all.

Kadri agitates.

So does Phaneuf.

So does Clarkson.

It's classic Leafs fan think - fall in love with one thing a guy does well, and conveniently overlook the 99 things he is lousy at.
- Atomic Wedgie

One of those 99 apparent things Komo sucked at wasn't penalty killing. And our PK sucks. He can also play a puck possession cycle game, and not take stupid penalties.

btw, why don't you list what Komo DID suck at? Keep in mind he was a 4th line role player, FFS, and a good one at that.

which ones in particular?
- Feeling Glucky?

GA overall.. number one D

all of which take a lot of dumb penalties that komarov didnt.

ESPECIALLY clarkson

who generates the same offense as Komarov from 4x the $
- Dozzer

Clarkson does 10x what Komarov did.

But let's be clear here; the above sentence does not mean I'm loving Clarkson.

But I'm willing to give him more time.

Because I don't have any other options...

Clarkson does 10x what Komarov did.

But let's be clear here; the above sentence does not mean I'm loving Clarkson.

But I'm willing to give him more time.

Because I don't have any other options...
- Atomic Wedgie

sigh

i'd take komarov as the third line winger over clarkson anyday of the week... especially when you talk about bang for buck

which ones in particular?

The ones that show how teams don't score as much vs the Leafs when he's on the ice?
The ones that show how the Leafs score more when he's on the ice?
The ones that say he faces some of the toughest competition league-wide?
the ones that show how he ends more shifts in the offensive zone than he starts there?
The ones that show how many shots he blocks?
the ones that show how how many hits he gets?

I'm just curious, is all.
- Feeling Glucky?

most of this can be attributed to the amount of ice time he gets

listen.. i dont think he's garbage.. but he isnt one of the best

Kadri agitates.

So does Phaneuf.

So does Clarkson.

It's classic Leafs fan think - fall in love with one thing a guy does well, and conveniently overlook the 99 things he is lousy at.
- Atomic Wedgie

Let's see

Good

1. agitates
2. Hits
3. Cycles and controls the puck
4. Penalty kills
5. Energy line

Bad
1. Low scoring, not known for that.

98 more bads to go.

GA overall.. number one D
- Dozzer

Can you point me to a site that has overall goals against correlated to ice-time?

Because otherwise, that's a lot of work... and I'm leaving the office soon.

most of this can be attributed to the amount of ice time he gets

listen.. i dont think he's garbage.. but he isnt one of the best
- Dozzer

Name me all the defensemen better than him, please.

edit: And remember when you said you didn't want him on the team, for any years at any price? Sounds to me like you think he's garbage.

Let's see

Good

1. agitates
2. Hits
3. Cycles and controls the puck
4. Penalty kills
5. Energy line

Bad
1. Low scoring, not known for that.

98 more bads to go.
- LeafMan

just wait til spring and let these guys defend another missed playoffs with all these heroes of theirs.

Can you point me to a site that has overall goals against correlated to ice-time?

Because otherwise, that's a lot of work... and I'm leaving the office soon.
- Feeling Glucky?

oh i see.. so you can generalize when you make your point... number one D.. GA.. it isnt that hard

Clarkson sucks as an agitator
- Yeti1181

Fixed for accuracy !

sigh

i'd take komarov as the third line winger over clarkson anyday of the week... especially when you talk about bang for buck
- Dozzer

This I agree with. Clarkson is a really good possession player I'll give him that but honestly not close to worth that money. Just crazy. And speaking of crazy, I thought he was supposed to be crazy and/or tough. Guy falls over a lot. Not gunna lie I thought he was going to bring something special especially given the fact that this is where he wants to be but yeah...no.

Name me all the defensemen better than him, please.
- Feeling Glucky?

i already started a list a few pages back.. not doing it again

the 7 guys that will be on team canada is a good start. cause he wont be.

i already started a list a few pages back.. not doing it again

the 7 guys that will be on team canada is a good start. cause he wont be.
- Dozzer

And if he is?

just wait til spring and let these guys defend another missed playoffs with all these heroes of theirs.
- Dozzer

You deleted a post of mine, and warned us about condescending posts and you come up with this? Yea, I know, you'll ban me as always, but having pointing this out I can live with my ban. Dont make it too long, Im just pointing out the obvious so have some leniency.

This I agree with. Clarkson is a really good possession player I'll give him that but honestly not close to worth that money. Just crazy. And speaking of crazy, I thought he was supposed to be crazy and/or tough. Guy falls over a lot. Not gunna lie I thought he was going to bring something special especially given the fact that this is where he wants to be but yeah...no.
- iTOLDu

lol he is a good possession player til he falls down and gives up the puck?

okay.. i think that makes sense lol

i already started a list a few pages back.. not doing it again

the 7 guys that will be on team canada is a good start. cause he wont be.
- Dozzer

He's not really even in the conversation, though he was fairly seriously considered for 2010.

shouldnt you be pleasing yourself somewhere right about now?

or are you already done?
- Dozzer

Side note: does this post come off as condescending to anyone else?