Phaneuf should be jettisoned, but Komarov is sorely missed.

Leafs Nation is officially stupid.
- Atomic Wedgie

nah just you and handful of others.

people dont like the term and dollars.....which is understandable.

Well, they don't, you're right.

But only when ignoring the facts.
- Feeling Glucky?

What facts!
+/-?

Well, they don't, you're right.

But only when ignoring the facts.
- Feeling Glucky?

It's like Bieksa#3 and Bloatsy are on holiday, so Leafs fans are picking up the trolling slack.

nah just you and handful of others.

people dont like the term and dollars.....which is understandable.
- Fakepartofme

Come on. With the amount of BS thrown around about Phaneuf, you can't hide behind that argument.

Don't bother, he doesn't get it, some players click with a team and provide them with a spark, contributes in areas other than just points. It was a fit that the Leafs needed.
- LeafMan

role players are the guys that allow the skill guys to thrive.. its always been that way

if the role players dont do well.. or if a team is lacking one.. then the skill guys sputter

Well, they don't, you're right.

But only when ignoring the facts.
- Feeling Glucky?

too bad the whole game wasnt 5 on 5 huh gluck?

then your argument might actually have some validity

It's like Bieksa#3 and Bloatsy are on holiday, so Leafs fans are picking up the trolling slack.
- Atomic Wedgie

So any 'Leafs fan' who disagrees with you is a troll? Riiight.

Clarkson sucks as an agitator
- Yeti1181

cause he crosses the line too much.. komarov knew right where that line was.

Phaneuf should be jettisoned, but Komarov is sorely missed.

Leafs Nation is officially stupid.
- Atomic Wedgie

just listen to the fans that call in on sportsnet if you want to hear some really stupid leaf fans.

What facts!
+/-?


- Fakepartofme

Or goals against/60 minutes.
Where no #1 d-man has better numbers.
Or the difference in the Leafs' GA/60 when he's on or off the ice.

Or watching how other team's stars don't do poop against the Leafs, until that team's coach manages to get them out while Phaneuf is sitting, and then, surprise surprise, they score.


those facts.

But you'd have to watch the games and look at stats to see those.
And damn it, that means accepting reality.

Phaneuf should be jettisoned, but Komarov is sorely missed.

Leafs Nation is officially stupid.
- Atomic Wedgie

wedgie .. its unlike you to call another person's opinion stupid.

same rules apply man.. that was a bit too far but the leafs just signed another stupid contract so everyone is emotional.. i get it.. that dumb contract is your get out of jail free card

What facts!
+/-?


- Fakepartofme

If I'm not mistaken, he was +12 60 points, then he signed his big deal and was -11 the next year and his points total have dropped every year after signing his huge deal with Flames. Buyer beware.

i am seeing a lot of condescending posts from the phaneuf fans to the phaneuf haters.

that stops now.

role players are the guys that allow the skill guys to thrive.. its always been that way

if the role players dont do well.. or if a team is lacking one.. then the skill guys sputter
- Dozzer

Look no further than the Black Hawks, their role players were key to their two cups.

If I'm not mistaken, he was +12 60 points, then he signed his big deal and was -11 the next year and his points total have dropped every year after signing his huge deal with Flames. Buyer beware.
- LeafMan

he's like the jaguar of d-men

no.. maybe thats lupul.. expensive and always in the shop

phaneuf is more like a 2.3L mustang.. looks like a sports car.. doesnt perform like one.

role players are the guys that allow the skill guys to thrive.. its always been that way

if the role players dont do well.. or if a team is lacking one.. then the skill guys sputter
- Dozzer

Role players are a dime a dozen.

They are interchangeable parts.

Leo Komarov just wasn't very good.

Which is why the Leafs were indifferent to him returning to Russia, and why 29 other GMs couldn't be bothered to pick up the phone.

You thought he was an important piece.

30 GMs disagree with you.

Are you a better assessor of talent than every NHL GM?

Look no further than the Black Hawks, their role players were key to their two cups.
- LeafMan

also.. the only FA signings they tend to make (other than Hossa who has been there long enough not to count really) are role playing guys. they develop and dont overpay their own top talent.

too bad the whole game wasnt 5 on 5 huh gluck?

then your argument might actually have some validity
- Dozzer

Most of the game is though.

And the Leafs have had some key injuries to their penalty kill unit.


So my argument, unlike yours, does have validity.

Role players are a dime a dozen.

They are interchangeable parts.

Leo Komarov just wasn't very good.

Which is why the Leafs were indifferent to him returning to Russia, and why 29 other GMs couldn't be bothered to pick up the phone.

You thought he was an important piece.

30 GMs disagree with you.

Are you a better assessor of talent than every NHL GM?
- Atomic Wedgie

yes or no.. a good agitator is something the leafs are missing?

also.. carlyle is such a damned red neck western canadian i am surprised there is any euro talent left on the team.

i am seeing a lot of condescending posts from the phaneuf fans to the phaneuf haters.

that stops now.
- Dozzer

But not the other way around, right?

That's nice.

Most of the game is though.

And the Leafs have had some key injuries to their penalty kill unit.


So my argument, unlike yours, does have validity.
- Feeling Glucky?

where does he rank overall gluck?

i mean everything put together.. a complete game.

where does he rank overall gluck?

i mean everything put together.. a complete game.
- Dozzer

top-15, if not top-10.

But not the other way around, right?

That's nice.
- Feeling Glucky?

i havent seen one anti phaneuf poster actually insult a pro phaneuf guy yet

but the pro phaneuf guys are calling the opposing view stupid and whatnot.

and you may not like this.. but its my call.

top-15, if not top-10.
- Feeling Glucky?

no no... go and look and tell me.

Role players are a dime a dozen.

They are interchangeable parts.

Leo Komarov just wasn't very good.

Which is why the Leafs were indifferent to him returning to Russia, and why 29 other GMs couldn't be bothered to pick up the phone.

You thought he was an important piece.

30 GMs disagree with you.

Are you a better assessor of talent than every NHL GM?
- Atomic Wedgie

The 30 GM's know that Komo is a role player who clearly can earn more $ in the KHL than he can make in the NHL. To whitewash it and not acknowledge this simple circumstance and call him a spare part is simply wrong, imo.

Which brings us back to Phaneuf and the question of the terms of his contract.