Dion @ $7 X 7

OR

Clarkson @ $5.25 X 7



And go ....

In a few years, Phaneuf will be a bargain contract as the cap and cap hits keep going up.

Every single year people say the same things about big money contracts, only to refer to them a few years later as better deals than what that crop of UFAs will be getting.


It's like inflation is a foreign concept around here.
- Feeling Glucky?

If Dion signs a 7/7 deal...he'll be bought out in year 5.

Like Clarkson.

But the top 5 guys might not get that, why pay overpay, because the cap is going up..
- bixll

Put top 5 dmen in free agency. They would easily get 8+


Look what Suter and Weber got when the cap wasnt going up..

Imagine what they'd get now?

You really dont understand, do you? The leafs arent overpaying him if he gets 7 million. The cap is going up, which means EVERY SINGLE PLAYER will ask for more money than he would if it werent going up


5 million dollar players will ask for 6 million.

6 million dollar players will ask for 7 million.

And so on.
- jbold

Do they all get it automatically ??

BECAUSE he is just not..... Why is that funny?
- bixll

I know he's not.

You're saying he shouldn't get paid like a top-5 d-man.

I'm saying he won't get paid like a top-5 d-man, if those top-5 guys were UFAs today.


Capisce?

Why give him the extra cap money ?
- bixll

This will quickly become the norm. Every teams top Dman will be making this within the next 5 years I can almost guarantee that. No matter who you are.

but it wont matter bix... nonis was the brain child of that deal with calgary.. h
- Dozzer

Do you always make up stuff?

Go back and read an interview with Burke about how that Phaneuf deal came together.

Do they all get it automatically ??
- bixll

If they hit free agency?

For the most part, yes. And then some.

could you find a post where I said he'd be top-5?

Just one?

maybe?


remember your post about misinformed opinions?
- Feeling Glucky?

quit it with the semantics.. you claim he wouldnt be paid like a top 5 because in a few years it wouldnt be top 5 money

you're just side stepping. pretty obvious.

Do you always make up stuff?

Go back and read an interview with Burke about how that Phaneuf deal came together.
- jbold

ah yes.. and who was sitting in the stands at the saddledome game in and game out leading up to that trade?

Do they all get it automatically ??
- bixll

Is kessel worth 8 million dollars?

Are PPG players worth 8 million dollars these days?

I see ya'll are playing nice


You do know you are all just like this guy right ?

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If they hit free agency?

For the most part, yes. And then some.
- Feeling Glucky?

(frank). if Vanek declined, Buffalo would have made him the highest paid forward in the league

dont look at me.. i think he should be moved at the deadline

rather take the step back then go forward with him through most of the next decade

but it wont matter bix... nonis was the brain child of that deal with calgary.. he is going to get 7 for 7.. maybe 8.. thats the unfortunate truth

our new mccabe
- Dozzer

So, not a top 5.

But because he gets to sign his deal today, the entire leagues defensive corp will be able to point back to his horrendous contract and say, Frank, if Dion got that money, I am worth 15 million...

This will skew the entire NHLPA d contracts for the next 20 years...

I see ya'll are playing nice


You do know you are all just like this guy right ?

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- .HOHO.

Looks like Ranger in his own zone

dont look at me.. i think he should be moved at the deadline

rather take the step back then go forward with him through most of the next decade

but it wont matter bix... nonis was the brain child of that deal with calgary.. he is going to get 7 for 7.. maybe 8.. thats the unfortunate truth

our new mccabe
- Dozzer

At the time of the deal though...it was great. I gotta say. The leafs unloaded crap and got the best player in the deal.
Dion's best two games as a leaf so far....were his first two games.

dont bring up 8......please gawd.....dont mention 8.

Is kessel worth 8 million dollars?

Are PPG players worth 8 million dollars these days?
- jbold

Yes.

So, not a top 5.

But because he gets to sign his deal today, the entire leagues defensive corp will be able to point back to his horrendous contract and say, Frank, if Dion got that money, I am worth 15 million...

This will skew the entire NHLPA d contracts for the next 20 years...
- bixll

yup.. and directly for the leafs as well...

franson will end up with 4+ and that guy only plays well on the PP and third pairing.

- MCharisma91

it's so true

At the time of the deal though...it was great. I gotta say. The leafs unloaded crap and got the best player in the deal.
Dion's best two games as a leaf so far....were his first two games.

dont bring up 8......please gawd.....dont mention 8.
- Fakepartofme

oh agree 100%

that was a good deal for the leafs. i dont deny that. but that isnt enough reason to overpay a guy.. just my opinion.. but get used to seeing phaneuf.. he isnt going anywhere

chara has more ice time and less goals against overall.

where you finding this obscure stat that twists reality?
- Dozzer

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So, not a top 5.

But because he gets to sign his deal today, the entire leagues defensive corp will be able to point back to his horrendous contract and say, Frank, if Dion got that money, I am worth 15 million...

This will skew the entire NHLPA d contracts for the next 20 years...
- bixll

No. They'll look back at Widemans 5.2m contract and Matt Carles 5.5m contract and go "wow.. 2nd pairing Dmen got that when the cap WASNT going up by a large amount"/


So if you want to compare DIons deal to contracts signed a couple seasons ago, he's worth A LOT more than 2nd pairing guys who dont go up against top lines like Wideman and Carle.

I know he's not.

You're saying he shouldn't get paid like a top-5 d-man.

I'm saying he won't get paid like a top-5 d-man, if those top-5 guys were UFAs today.


Capisce?
- Feeling Glucky?

Yes, I understand, I'm not stupid. I just don't agree, and you have a problem with it.

No. They'll look back at Widemans 5.2m contract and Matt Carles 5.5m contract and go "wow.. 2nd pairing Dmen got that when the cap WASNT going up by a large amount"/


So if you want to compare DIons deal to contracts signed a couple seasons ago, he's worth A LOT more than 2nd pairing guys who dont go up against top lines like Wideman and Carle.
- jbold

the root of the whole problem. GMs have too much money to toss at UFAs.. doesnt make them good deals tho.. thats our point.

you guys are right.. judging the landscape 7 is where dion should be.. but i'd rather move on without him and let someone else pay it.

If Dion gets a 7x7, Gardiner with more ice time might not be asking for peanuts. Ruh roh