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Rocktane
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 03.08.2011

Dec 22 @ 9:26 PM ET
Canada WJC roster finalized. Scott Laughton & Taylor Leier make the team
- Jsaquella


I would hope Laughts made the team, they named him captain days ago.
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Dec 22 @ 9:28 PM ET
The Sharks are basically the Flyers West, moreso than the Kings...lot of teams that could've won a Stanley Cup, and always fell short for whatever reason.
- Jsaquella



in bold, currently?

maybe things aren't so gloomy after all.

kidding.

I really hope management is noticing the defensive deficiency this team is displaying night after night, I know as a fan it's pi$$ing me off & depressing me all at the same time
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Dec 22 @ 9:28 PM ET
I would hope Laughts made the team, they named him captain days ago.
- Rocktane


Yes, he was a shoo in, but Leier also made it, desite not dressing for today's tune up
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Dec 22 @ 9:31 PM ET
in bold, currently?

maybe things aren't so gloomy after all.

kidding.

I really hope management is noticing the defensive deficiency this team is displaying night after night, I know as a fan it's pi$$ing me off & depressing me all at the same time

- puckhead17


They have a bad mix, especially on defense. They'll try to fix it, and I'm not sure if i will like the attempt
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Dec 22 @ 9:37 PM ET
They have a bad mix, especially on defense. They'll try to fix it, and I'm not sure if i will like the attempt
- Jsaquella


Now Gus out, although he isn't a "world beater" by any stretch further declines what is already a slow immobile defense.

It's getting hard to watch on most nights, I know a current day Eric Desjardens will be much harder to come by, but this should be priority #1, and they are kidding themselves otherwise.
Rocktane
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 03.08.2011

Dec 22 @ 9:37 PM ET
As far as the talk about this team's untouchable core going forward:

Giroux, Voracek, Couturier, Read, Mason, Laughton, Morin, Hagg.

Players we should explore trading, for the right return:

BSchenn, Simmonds, Hartnell, Grossmann, LSchenn, Timonen, Mesz.

Players I'd love to sign/acquire:

Yandle, Enstrom, Edler, Moulson, Pacioretty, Franson, Giordano.

Perhaps Schenn bros and picks for Yandle?

Simmonds and Grossmann for Giordano and a pick?

I saw on the twitter machine that there may be a rumor of Pacioretty being a trade target for the Flyers. BSchenn straight up for him, or Simmonds +.

puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Dec 22 @ 9:40 PM ET
As far as the talk about this team's untouchable core going forward:

Giroux, Voracek, Couturier, Read, Mason, Laughton, Morin, Hagg.

Players we should explore trading, for the right return:

BSchenn, Simmonds, Hartnell, Grossmann, LSchenn, Timonen, Mesz.

Players I'd love to sign/acquire:

Yandle, Enstrom, Edler, Moulson, Pacioretty, Franson, Giordano.

Perhaps Schenn bros and picks for Yandle?

Simmonds and Grossmann for Giordano and a pick?

I saw on the twitter machine that there may be a rumor of Pacioretty being a trade target for the Flyers. BSchenn straight up for him, or Simmonds +.

- Rocktane



I saw that, it's ridiculous to say the least, a winger is not a priority

also, I don't think anyone can debate untouchables, after Carter & Richards
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Dec 22 @ 9:40 PM ET
As far as the talk about this team's untouchable core going forward:

Giroux, Voracek, Couturier, Read, Mason, Laughton, Morin, Hagg.

Players we should explore trading, for the right return:

BSchenn, Simmonds, Hartnell, Grossmann, LSchenn, Timonen, Mesz.

Players I'd love to sign/acquire:

Yandle, Enstrom, Edler, Moulson, Pacioretty, Franson, Giordano.

Perhaps Schenn bros and picks for Yandle?

Simmonds and Grossmann for Giordano and a pick?

I saw on the twitter machine that there may be a rumor of Pacioretty being a trade target for the Flyers. BSchenn straight up for him, or Simmonds +.

- Rocktane


If the Habs traded Pacioretty fr Brayden Schenn, the fans would riot, burn down the Bell Centre, Hang, tar & Feather, Draw and Quarter and behead Marc Bergevin...and then they'd get nasty.

Pacioretty would be a perfect fit for the Flyers top line. Not getting him for less than Couturier +. He's had a 30 goal season, and was on pace for another last year, and again this year...he'd cost an arm & leg and probably a testicle, too
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Dec 22 @ 9:41 PM ET
Now Gus out, although he isn't a "world beater" by any stretch further declines what is already a slow immobile defense.

It's getting hard to watch on most nights, I know a current day Eric Desjardens will be much harder to come by, but this should be priority #1, and they are kidding themselves otherwise.

- puckhead17


They definitely need defense help, first and foremost. I'd love to add a shoot first winger to play with Giroux & Voracek, but right now the need on defense is so drastic...
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Dec 22 @ 9:41 PM ET
If the Habs traded Pacioretty fr Brayden Schenn, the fans would riot, burn down the Bell Centre, Hang, tar & Feather, Draw and Quarter and behead Marc Bergevin...and then they'd get nasty.

Pacioretty would be a perfect fit for the Flyers top line. Not getting him for less than Couturier +

- Jsaquella

wait what?
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Dec 22 @ 9:45 PM ET
They definitely need defense help, first and foremost. I'd love to add a shoot first winger to play with Giroux & Voracek, but right now the need on defense is so drastic...
- Jsaquella


I would be willing to move 2 forwards at this point, for the correct player of course

I think the absolute priorities are
#1 & #2 defense
#3 a scoring "please shoot first" winger.

just a side note, Jake scores by SHOOTING, & last night he tried 3 passes that weren't options, all near the front of the net, or in the circle with a shooting angle.
maddening!
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Dec 22 @ 9:46 PM ET
I would be willing to move 2 forwards at this point, for the correct player of course

I think the absolute priorities are
#1 & #2 defense
#3 a scoring "please shoot first" winger.

- puckhead17


I agree. I doubt they can all be added by the TDL, though. Can get a defenseman now, then add a defenseman & winger in summer, especially if they can jettison a contract or two for picks
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Dec 22 @ 9:48 PM ET
I agree. I doubt they can all be added by the TDL, though. Can get a defenseman now, then add a defenseman & winger in summer, especially if they can jettison a contract or two for picks
- Jsaquella


agreed!!
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Dec 22 @ 9:49 PM ET
agreed!!
- puckhead17


They're not going to throw in the towel on this season, they will be trying to add. They'll do soemthing
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Dec 22 @ 9:52 PM ET
They're not going to throw in the towel on this season, they will be trying to add. They'll do soemthing
- Jsaquella


If they throw in the towel do it for Connor McDavid
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Dec 22 @ 9:54 PM ET
They're not going to throw in the towel on this season, they will be trying to add. They'll do soemthing
- Jsaquella


Just, what you stated earlier, what & who?

Please, no more older "past their prime" players, that will only put us in a deeper hole,

We will have to purge someone to get quality



Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Dec 22 @ 9:54 PM ET
If they throw in the towel do it for Connor McDavid
- ob18


I fear something dumb. But, there's also the possibility of a desperate GM trying to save his job with a shake-up trade.
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Dec 22 @ 9:55 PM ET
If they throw in the towel do it for Connor McDavid
- ob18


Not unless Ed turns 70 again, no
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Dec 22 @ 9:55 PM ET
I fear something dumb. But, there's also the possibility of a desperate GM trying to save his job with a shake-up trade.
- Jsaquella


sums up my thoughts as well
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Dec 22 @ 9:57 PM ET
I fear something dumb. But, there's also the possibility of a desperate GM trying to save his job with a shake-up trade.
- Jsaquella


I (laughing at in bold), keep wishing Nashville goes into a bad scoring slump, we seem like perfect trade partners, (Ekholm?), not that he would be a saviour, but for starters
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Dec 22 @ 9:57 PM ET
Just, what you stated earlier, what & who?

Please, no more older "past their prime" players, that will only put us in a deeper hole,

We will have to purge someone to get quality

- puckhead17


I'm thinking they do something like the Schenns & Simmonds for Byfuglien and a couple of others. Maybe Little, maybe Frolik, maybe a guy like Paul Postma...You have a GM in Winnipeg that has to do something, and he's got some valuable pieces to make a move with.
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Dec 22 @ 10:00 PM ET
I'm thinking they do something like the Schenns & Simmonds for Byfuglien and a couple of others. Maybe Little, maybe Frolik, maybe a guy like Paul Postma...You have a GM in Winnipeg that has to do something, and he's got some valuable pieces to make a move with.
- Jsaquella


Kane is out there too. If its a shake up....


... ok the beers and my wishful thinking are kicking in
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Dec 22 @ 10:00 PM ET
I'm thinking they do something like the Schenns & Simmonds for Byfuglien and a couple of others. Maybe Little, maybe Frolik, maybe a guy like Paul Postma...You have a GM in Winnipeg that has to do something, and he's got some valuable pieces to make a move with.
- Jsaquella


I had those exact players in thought as well (previously), all in the sudden "Buff" doesn't seem so horrible.

But I don't see him going anywhere while Enstrom struggles.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Dec 22 @ 10:03 PM ET
I fear something dumb. But, there's also the possibility of a desperate GM trying to save his job with a shake-up trade.
- Jsaquella


I fear something dumb as well.
FrmRusiaWifGlov
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Land of Single Malts-- St. Andrews, Scotland
Joined: 03.31.2013

Dec 22 @ 10:06 PM ET
Kane is out there too. If its a shake up....


... ok the beers and my wishful thinking are kicking in

- moylander


Just let it happen. Youll feel better
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