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ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Dec 21 @ 3:14 PM ET
Anthony SanFilippo ‏@InsideTheFlyers
Injury Update: #Flyers forward Steve Downie has an upper-body injury and will be out of action for 7-10 days per GM Paul Holmgren #NHL
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Dec 21 @ 3:15 PM ET
Yeah Harry Z tends to do that. And Crosby always makes whoever hes playing with look like superstars. Personally I think that if you removed Kunitz and Dupuis from Crosby they would not look as good. Certainly they are solid nhlers but they just wouldnt put up the same points or be as good. What are the Pittsburgh lines looking like right now?
- FrmRusiaWifGlov

kunitz and dupuis are definitely both solid nhl guys who could hit 20 on their own without crosby. but that being said, it would be foolish to think that crosby doesnt inflate the stats they put up. kunitz is a damn fine all around player, but with crosby the last 2 years he is one of the leagues top point getters.
FrmRusiaWifGlov
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Land of Single Malts-- St. Andrews, Scotland
Joined: 03.31.2013

Dec 21 @ 3:15 PM ET
crosby dupes kunitz
jokinen neal harry z
sutter connor vitale
sill adams kobasew

yikes for the most part right now. even when healthy, the team does have some bottom depth issues.

- stayinthefnnet


Ive always thought that depth was the pens biggest issue, of course next to brain cramps something we share in common.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Dec 21 @ 3:16 PM ET
Anthony SanFilippo ‏@InsideTheFlyers
Injury Update: #Flyers forward Steve Downie has an upper-body injury and will be out of action for 7-10 days per GM Paul Holmgren #NHL

- ob18

coincidence or not, but ever since you guys reacquired him a lot of things have been night and day. and hes another one who seems to have for the most part eliminated a lot of recklessness from his game
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Dec 21 @ 3:16 PM ET
Ive always thought that depth was the pens biggest issue, of course next to brain cramps something we share in common.
- FrmRusiaWifGlov

depths always gonna be an issue when youre paying crosby and malkin and soon to be letang mega deals
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Dec 21 @ 3:17 PM ET
coincidence or not, but ever since you guys reacquired him a lot of things have been night and day. and hes another one who seems to have for the most part eliminated a lot of recklessness from his game
- stayinthefnnet


It's okay we still have Rinaldo to make up for the level of dumb he has removed from his game.
FrmRusiaWifGlov
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Land of Single Malts-- St. Andrews, Scotland
Joined: 03.31.2013

Dec 21 @ 3:19 PM ET
It's okay we still have Rinaldo to make up for the level of dumb he has removed from his game.
- ob18


And now that Downie is injured, none other than the infamous Rosehill will get to see the lineup.

Does this mean VandeVelde moves up a line?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 21 @ 3:19 PM ET
crosby dupes kunitz
jokinen neal harry z
sutter connor vitale
sill adams kobasew

yikes for the most part right now. even when healthy, the team does have some bottom depth issues.

- stayinthefnnet


Neal is playing center and Sutter is playing wing? Or is that just lines and not positions?
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Dec 21 @ 3:20 PM ET
It's okay we still have Rinaldo to make up for the level of dumb he has removed from his game.
- ob18

true. i still just like seeing guys evolve past it. it shows they can learn to do it, and maybe if the league gets serious with discipline a lot of this stuff can be removed from the game.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Dec 21 @ 3:21 PM ET
Neal is playing center and Sutter is playing wing? Or is that just lines and not positions?
- PhillySportsGuy

i was just lazy and lead off with center haha sorry
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Dec 21 @ 3:21 PM ET
coincidence or not, but ever since you guys reacquired him a lot of things have been night and day. and hes another one who seems to have for the most part eliminated a lot of recklessness from his game
- stayinthefnnet


If you didn't know about his past, you'd have no idea he had that type of reputation at one point.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Dec 21 @ 3:22 PM ET
And now that Downie is injured, none other than the infamous Rosehill will get to see the lineup.

Does this mean VandeVelde moves up a line?

- FrmRusiaWifGlov


I'd much rather see McGinn, but I doubt he made the trip to Columbus. The drop off from Downey to Vandevelde is quite significant. First line will need to be good again tonight.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
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Dec 21 @ 3:23 PM ET
If you didn't know about his past, you'd have no idea he had that type of reputation at one point.
- PhillySportsGuy

exactly. same with cooke. whether or not cooke should have even been given a chance to reform is debatable, but he has as well. it just shows that the league really needs to get severe with these punishments. start dishing out 10 to 15 game bans.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Dec 21 @ 3:23 PM ET
i was just lazy and lead off with center haha sorry
- stayinthefnnet


That's fine. I was being an idiot and not realizing after I saw Crosby first.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Dec 21 @ 3:25 PM ET
exactly. same with cooke. whether or not cooke should have even been given a chance to reform is debatable, but he has as well. it just shows that the league really needs to get severe with these punishments. start dishing out 10 to 15 game bans.
- stayinthefnnet


I completely agree. And they shouldn't reduce suspensions based on severity (or lack thereof) of injury. Could you imagine a criminal shooting someone in the chest and being like "Well I should serve less time because the bullet missed his heart and he survived."
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Dec 21 @ 3:26 PM ET
It's okay we still have Rinaldo to make up for the level of dumb he has removed from his game.
- ob18


And Z2 waiting in the wings. If one Rinaldo is good, two Rinaldos is fantastic!
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
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Joined: 01.12.2012

Dec 21 @ 3:27 PM ET
I completely agree. And they shouldn't reduce suspensions based on severity (or lack thereof) of injury. Could you imagine a criminal shooting someone in the chest and being like "Well I should serve less time because the bullet missed his heart and he survived."
- PhillySportsGuy

yeah exactly. the act should be punished, not the result.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
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Joined: 01.12.2012

Dec 21 @ 3:29 PM ET
That's fine. I was being an idiot and not realizing after I saw Crosby first.
- PhillySportsGuy

yeah. still a lot of ehh in that lineup right now and guys playing up a line. i can understand the not rushing malkin back though. alright guys im off for the day, i wont be back before your game so hopefully its another exciting one for everyone (although maybe a different result ) take care
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Dec 21 @ 3:30 PM ET
yeah. still a lot of ehh in that lineup right now and guys playing up a line. i can understand the not rushing malkin back though. alright guys im off for the day, i wont be back before your game so hopefully its another exciting one for everyone (although maybe a different result ) take care
- stayinthefnnet


Your ehh seems to be getting the job done just fine. Later man
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Dec 21 @ 3:32 PM ET
Anthony SanFilippo ‏@InsideTheFlyers
Injury Update: #Flyers forward Steve Downie has an upper-body injury and will be out of action for 7-10 days per GM Paul Holmgren #NHL

- ob18


If he is out 10 days that means 3 games missed.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Dec 21 @ 3:39 PM ET


Awesome
FrmRusiaWifGlov
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Land of Single Malts-- St. Andrews, Scotland
Joined: 03.31.2013

Dec 21 @ 3:41 PM ET
If he is out 10 days that means 3 games missed.
- Jsaquella


Okay so hed miss:
Columbus
Minnesota Wild
Edmonton

We could really use him for Columbus. Getting a win today is essential for keeping our playoff spot. Minnesota is another game we could use him for, but honestly I dont expect us to win that game. Lastly Edmonton should not pose too much difficulty so missing him might not be too terrible.

Overall Analysis: Losing Downie makes a huge hole in our lineup
FrmRusiaWifGlov
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Land of Single Malts-- St. Andrews, Scotland
Joined: 03.31.2013

Dec 21 @ 3:42 PM ET


Awesome

- PhillySportsGuy


Thank you for showing me this. You are a gentleman and a scholar.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
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Dec 21 @ 3:45 PM ET
Thank you for showing me this. You are a gentleman and a scholar.
- FrmRusiaWifGlov


http://www.brocode.com/code/article-28
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Dec 21 @ 3:47 PM ET
Okay so hed miss:
Columbus
Minnesota Wild
Edmonton

We could really use him for Columbus. Getting a win today is essential for keeping our playoff spot. Minnesota is another game we could use him for, but honestly I dont expect us to win that game. Lastly Edmonton should not pose too much difficulty so missing him might not be too terrible.

Overall Analysis: Losing Downie makes a huge hole in our lineup

- FrmRusiaWifGlov


I does create a hole, but it shouldn't be fatal.


I think I'd juggle things thusly:

12-28-93
19-14-24
76-10-17
37-18-36

That's without making a roster move, which they almost certainly won't do before tonight
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