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Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Dec 21 @ 9:50 PM ET
Meszaros a 4 million dollar # 8 dman
- PLindbergh31

Deal with it for about 5 more months
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Dec 21 @ 9:53 PM ET
Deal with it for about 5 more months
- Giroux_Is_God


not necessarily.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Dec 21 @ 9:53 PM ET
wow. what an end to the habs-preds game.
sonar_guy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Somewhere, near Salem, NJ
Joined: 11.02.2013

Dec 21 @ 9:53 PM ET
not necessarily.
- hammarby31


True we could take him out behind the Wachovia center and shoot him like a lame horse!
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Dec 21 @ 9:54 PM ET
The worst part is, they're losing because they play dumb, undisciplined hockey.

Could they use more mobility and puck skills on the blue line? Sure. A winger who has a shoot first mentality? Yep.

But when they lose, it's generally because they play some stupid hockey.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Dec 21 @ 9:54 PM ET
True we could take him out behind the Wachovia center and shoot him like a lame horse!

- sonar_guy


they could waive him and he'll go to the phantoms.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Dec 21 @ 9:55 PM ET
He's damn near close to last in the League in save %.

Team is what it is. A borderline playoff team, that will draft a 4 year project at pick # 13

- PLindbergh31


If things go really well, I could see them getting as high as sixth.

But unless Terry Murray gets a few Phantoms ready to rock for the second half, the thing we really have to worry about is injuries -- our depth at center is tricky, and let's face it: An injury or two on defense exposes us in all kinds of ways.

It's hard...I could see them making the playoffs and being a tricky matchup in the first round. But at the same time, a few players need to be a little better for me to believe that they won't dogfight for the eight spot for,the next three months.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Dec 21 @ 9:55 PM ET
The worst part is, they're losing because they play dumb, undisciplined hockey.

Could they use more mobility and puck skills on the blue line? Sure. A winger who has a shoot first mentality? Yep.

But when they lose, it's generally because they play some stupid hockey.

- Jsaquella


sonar_guy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Somewhere, near Salem, NJ
Joined: 11.02.2013

Dec 21 @ 9:55 PM ET
they could waive him and he'll go to the phantoms.
- hammarby31

I like my plan better!
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Dec 21 @ 9:56 PM ET
The worst part is, they're losing because they play dumb, undisciplined hockey.

Could they use more mobility and puck skills on the blue line? Sure. A winger who has a shoot first mentality? Yep.

But when they lose, it's generally because they play some stupid hockey.

- Jsaquella


not sure how much dumb, undisciplined hockey weighs into 3 point shots getting through for goals. i know the first of which happened on the pp, from a hooking call to streit. generally, i agree with your point though.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Dec 21 @ 9:56 PM ET
they could waive him and he'll go to the phantoms.
- hammarby31


Yeah, then he'll be a $3.1mm cap hit in the AHL...Remember, under the new CBA, only $900K can be buried in AHL
sonar_guy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Somewhere, near Salem, NJ
Joined: 11.02.2013

Dec 21 @ 9:57 PM ET
Yeah, then he'll be a $3.1mm cap hit in the AHL...Remember, under the new CBA, only $900K can be buried in AHL
- Jsaquella


Hence my plan is a better option!
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Dec 21 @ 9:58 PM ET
Yeah, then he'll be a $3.1mm cap hit in the AHL...Remember, under the new CBA, only $900K can be buried in AHL
- Jsaquella


if they're not going to play him, and they can't trade him, they're better off at least with a 900k savings.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Dec 21 @ 9:59 PM ET
not sure how much dumb, undisciplined hockey weighs into 3 point shots getting through for goals. i know the first of which happened on the pp, from a hooking call to streit. generally, i agree with your point though.
- hammarby31


Well, stupid play allowed them to get hemmed in their own end and it also led to a lot of blown opportunities in the other end.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Dec 21 @ 9:59 PM ET
not necessarily.
- hammarby31

His deal is up after this season no?
sonar_guy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Somewhere, near Salem, NJ
Joined: 11.02.2013

Dec 21 @ 10:00 PM ET
His deal is up after this season no?
- Giroux_Is_God


Yes!
hogweed
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2013

Dec 21 @ 10:01 PM ET
Severed achilles tendon. Gone until mid season next year.
- Pixote Andolini

what? he walked down the hall after he skated off
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Dec 21 @ 10:01 PM ET
Yeah, then he'll be a $3.1mm cap hit in the AHL...Remember, under the new CBA, only $900K can be buried in AHL
- Jsaquella


They need to,waive him, though -- maybe Murray can fix him down there, if he plays tough minutes. He can't help us now, and just leaving him in the box...Gosh. What a waste. We really needed him to help us.

Damn it. They are so close to being a really dangerous team...but I don't know how you get the pieces other than waiting.
watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard.
Joined: 06.26.2006

Dec 21 @ 10:02 PM ET
The worst part is, they're losing because they play dumb, undisciplined hockey.

Could they use more mobility and puck skills on the blue line? Sure. A winger who has a shoot first mentality? Yep.

But when they lose, it's generally because they play some stupid hockey.

- Jsaquella

cant wait for Peter Laviolette to be the Islanders head coach and march them to the playoffs
sonar_guy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Somewhere, near Salem, NJ
Joined: 11.02.2013

Dec 21 @ 10:02 PM ET
UFA Defensemen for 2014 http://www.mynhltraderumo...-unrestricted-defenseman/
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Dec 21 @ 10:04 PM ET
They need to,waive him, though -- maybe Murray can fix him down there, if he plays tough minutes. He can't help us now, and just leaving him in the box...Gosh. What a waste. We really needed him to help us.

Damn it. They are so close to being a really dangerous team...but I don't know how you get the pieces other than waiting.

- AllInForFlyers


I'd be ecstatic if they waived him and he got claimed. He's played poorly. There's no two ways about it.

As far as addressing needs, it's possible, but they have to be smart. Trade for guys that fill needs, especially if you trade a valuable asset
watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard.
Joined: 06.26.2006

Dec 21 @ 10:06 PM ET
Get familiar with this list

http://www.isshockey.com/iss-top-30/

- ob18

why, the flyers wont have a 1st rounder when they trade it away for more stupid
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Dec 21 @ 10:09 PM ET
Get familiar with this list

http://www.isshockey.com/iss-top-30/

- ob18


The 2nd half of it, anyhow...theyre not likely to suck bad enough to finish with a top 5 pick
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Dec 21 @ 10:17 PM ET
The 2nd half of it, anyhow...theyre not likely to suck bad enough to finish with a top 5 pick
- Jsaquella


That's okay I figure a 10 - 14 spot
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Dec 21 @ 10:19 PM ET
That's okay I figure a 10 - 14 spot
- ob18


I still think they squeak into playoffs. The East sucks & unlike a lot of the teams behind them, the Flyers are actually playing below their ability. The only team south of the Flyers in the Metro that is really underachieving is the Rangers.
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