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wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Dec 19 @ 6:32 PM ET
Clean hits don't deserve suspensions or fines. End of story.
- keatondixon


It can't be both 'clean' and a 5 minute major, can it?

The NHL, ass backwards as it is, punishes results, and Schenn is apparently fine.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Dec 19 @ 6:33 PM ET
They don't. Wilson's hit was neither clean, nor legal, in the eyes of the NHL. He received a 5 minute major and a game misconduct. So even if it didn't garner a suspension, it's still a penalized hit, which means it wasn't a clean hit.
- Jsaquella


Exactly.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Dec 19 @ 6:37 PM ET
Clean hits don't deserve suspensions or fines. End of story.
- keatondixon

textbook charging, in a dangerous area of the ice, 3-4 ft from the boards

not close to clean
GirouxForTheShow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Fuck you raff
Joined: 01.04.2009

Dec 19 @ 6:39 PM ET
I'm not surprised the NHL didn't suspend Wilson. Schenn's playing tonight and that's usual the criteria, as stupid as it is.
- Jsaquella


Who is the one that high-sticked Pronger and ended his career? Can we tar and feather him? That's roughly equal value.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Dec 19 @ 6:40 PM ET
http://bluejacketsxtra.dispatch.com/content/blogs/puck-rakers/2013/12/you-want-em-both.html

This Blue Jackets writer claims the Flyers tried to trade both Carter and Richards to Columbus in one package. He claims the total package would have been Jake Voracek, their 1st (Sean Couturier), their 3rd (Nick Cousins), their next 1st (Ryan Murray), and Marcus Johansen. Columbus apparently didn't want to sell their whole farm, and stuck with just Carter. Damn their team could be different if they got both Carter and Richie. Nash might still be a Jacket.

- JAKEw1234

damn and we would have had an amazing future
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Dec 19 @ 6:41 PM ET
They don't. Wilson's hit was neither clean, nor legal, in the eyes of the NHL. He received a 5 minute major and a game misconduct. So even if it didn't garner a suspension, it's still a penalized hit, which means it wasn't a clean hit.
- Jsaquella

oh come on if it was rinaldo it would have been a 5 game suspension
it's complete bs that there was no supplemental discipline shanny is a fool
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Dec 19 @ 6:42 PM ET
Who is the one that high-sticked Pronger and ended his career? Can we tar and feather him? That's roughly equal value.
- GirouxForTheShow


Grabovski....now of the Caps
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Dec 19 @ 6:44 PM ET


love the own trolls. see you in ek's thread.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Dec 19 @ 6:45 PM ET
love the own trolls. see you in ek's thread.
- -davies-

who's trollin
whipper334
Calgary Flames
Location: The man they call Reveen!!
Joined: 01.06.2010

Dec 19 @ 6:45 PM ET
No suspension for Wilson...what a fcking joke!
Potash4prez
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Cottesloe
Joined: 07.02.2011

Dec 19 @ 6:45 PM ET
Schenn didn't get suspended for his dive?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 19 @ 6:46 PM ET
Wow, didn't see that coming.
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Dec 19 @ 6:46 PM ET
I knew their wasn't going to be a suspension. Only reason there was a meeting was because of player safety stuff.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 19 @ 6:47 PM ET
Bias or not, one thing remains true: deciding suspensions based on the result of the infraction rather than the infraction itself is just foolish. Sadly, I really think someone is going to be crippled or killed before the league wakes up.

I also question having a former player making these decisions. IMO a former ref such as Paul Stewart would be much better qualified to make these rulings.
dillpx183
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Marietta, PA
Joined: 02.26.2011

Dec 19 @ 6:48 PM ET
I knew their wasn't going to be a suspension. Only reason there was a meeting was to give the illusion of player safety stuff.
- Flyersgod


fixed
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Dec 19 @ 6:52 PM ET
fixed
- dillpx183


I meant the department of player safety. Shanahan didn't initiate the interview.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Dec 19 @ 6:56 PM ET
Schenn didn't get suspended for his dive?
- Potash4prez


Pretty surprising the referees didn't ban him from the league for embellishment right there on the ice.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Dec 19 @ 7:05 PM ET
Stuff like this makes it REALLY hard to believe the league has no bias against the Flyers
- BiggE


the league does. has for years. because schenn wasn't apparently hurt, wilson wasn't suspended. preposterous.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Dec 19 @ 7:10 PM ET
They don't. Wilson's hit was neither clean, nor legal, in the eyes of the NHL. He received a 5 minute major and a game misconduct. So even if it didn't garner a suspension, it's still a penalized hit, which means it wasn't a clean hit.
- Jsaquella


paul stewart and kerry fraser, 2 legends in their line of work, i'm sure disagree with shananoban's decision, based on their writings earlier this week.

if that's a flyer, 5-10 games.
Schenn2shine
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.26.2011

Dec 19 @ 7:11 PM ET
Tonight I wanna see a Schenn 2 Schenn goal!

Tonight I guarantee a victory!
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Dec 19 @ 7:14 PM ET
guess that wasn't a blatant x-check against kimmo either....

Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Dec 19 @ 7:20 PM ET
Needs more Shampoo Knutsen.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 19 @ 7:25 PM ET
Just glad Couturier is ok, they cannot afford too lose him
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Dec 19 @ 7:26 PM ET
Schenn didn't get suspended for his dive?
- Potash4prez


I give the kid full marks for wanting to play, but for the Flyers not to even give him a concussion test after he nearly had to Kapanen it to the bench was very disturbing.

Though not surprising.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Dec 19 @ 7:27 PM ET
Who was that to Grossmann?
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