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mighty13duck
New York Islanders
Location: New Building. New Owner. New coach Nassau County, NY
Joined: 01.26.2009

Dec 18 @ 2:29 PM ET
Very true
- Cptmjl

20 years from now do you think its possible Wang is still the owner?
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Dec 18 @ 2:30 PM ET
And I could careless....
- mighty13duck




...unless of course there are things you care less about
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Dec 18 @ 2:31 PM ET
20 years from now do you think its possible Wang is still the owner?
- mighty13duck

IDK if Wang will still be around but that damn kid will be. Eating Famous Amos cookies in the owners lounge with Snow.
Isles316
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island , NY
Joined: 01.15.2008

Dec 18 @ 2:33 PM ET
Great blog. Think it sums up how the fans feel very well.
Jethro09
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 08.16.2007

Dec 18 @ 2:35 PM ET
Frankly I agree. When Vanek decides where to go he's going to base his opinion of the Isles on just a few months worth of experience. I can assure you that this will stick in his mind, though his deceision may have been made long before.
- keaner17

If I were Vanek I wouldn't even dream of re-signing with the Isles. The team is abysmal. The ownership sucks. The coaches suck. The GM sucks. The only good thing going for the Isles is Brooklyn and JT and this miserably embarrassing losing streak is only proving that JT by himself isn't enough to carry this franchise out from under the Big Top to a place of respectability and competitiveness. Snow should move Vanek for a 1st, or more if possible, ASAP.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Dec 18 @ 2:36 PM ET
SO the kid is just a plain hockey fan? Nothing wrong with that. He will choose his team once he hits his teens like most do.
- mighty13duck



Yeah the kid lives for it. He meet Josh Bailey a couple of years ago and took pictures with him at his locker wearing bailey's helmet and from that day on he has been hooked. From the minute he wakes up until he goes to bed everything is hockey. That's why its tough to watch Bailey struggle so bad because I know because of him he changed my son life forever. I want the kid to succeed so much but he just sucks
Jethro09
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 08.16.2007

Dec 18 @ 2:37 PM ET
Yeah the kid lives for it. He meet Josh Bailey a couple of years ago and took pictures with him at his locker wearing bailey's helmet and from that day on he has been hooked. From the minute he wakes up until he goes to bed everything is hockey. That's why its tough to watch Bailey struggle so bad because I know because of him he changed my son life forever. I want the kid to succeed so much but he just sucks
- Vukota

That was Bailey's biggest contribution to hockey and the Isles.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Dec 18 @ 2:38 PM ET
That was Bailey's biggest contribution to hockey and the Isles.
- Jethro09

might be true but I'll always have a soft spot for him. JT, Bailey, Nabby and Okposo are his favorite players
Jethro09
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 08.16.2007

Dec 18 @ 2:41 PM ET
might be true but I'll always have a soft spot for him. JT, Bailey, Nabby and Okposo are his favorite players
- Vukota

I get it. I would too. But since I don't have a son who likes Bailey because Bailey did a real solid by him, I can wish for his trade away from the isles so I don't have to be frustrated every game watching a guy with great skill waste away and contribute nothing.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Dec 18 @ 2:44 PM ET
I get it. I would too. But since I don't have a son who likes Bailey because Bailey did a real solid by him, I can wish for his trade away from the isles so I don't have to be frustrated every game watching a guy with great skill waste away and contribute nothing.
- Jethro09


I'm with ya. I want to see him do good but I wouldn't lose a second sleep if he got traded
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Dec 18 @ 2:44 PM ET
If I were Vanek I wouldn't even dream of re-signing with the Isles. The team is abysmal. The ownership sucks. The coaches suck. The GM sucks. The only good thing going for the Isles is Brooklyn and JT and this miserably embarrassing losing streak is only proving that JT by himself isn't enough to carry this franchise out from under the Big Top to a place of respectability and competitiveness. Snow should move Vanek for a 1st, or more if possible, ASAP.
- Jethro09


If the GM were doing a sell job on him, that sell would include telling him that he can play with one of the best players in the world for next several years, and that the Islanders have several pieces that will allow them to be a contender in the long term.

I realize it's hard looking at the Islanders objectively as a fan of the team right now, but at the same time, they have some really good pieces in that organization. With JT, Strome, Reinhart, Pulock, et. in the system, and if you are luck enough to draft somebody like Ekblad this year, it really doesn't seem like a hard sell to make that the team could be real good.

To be honest, a team with the guys above would scare the beejesus out of me once they begin to develop.
WolfmanIsles
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 02.05.2007

Dec 18 @ 2:45 PM ET
Does anyone think Garth Snow still carries a copy of the CBA around with him like he did when he first became GM? Does he still carry that old CBA copy around and not the new one?
Isles316
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island , NY
Joined: 01.15.2008

Dec 18 @ 2:49 PM ET
Laviolette is available. He's great for turning a team around for two years before the players start to tune him out. Hire him back for two years and then hire another coach to get you over the top once they tune Laviolette out. Your team has some great players and I'm sure Taveres would excel in his system.
- Barbecued Hockey


I'm with you. My opinion on why a change hasn't been made is because Wang doesn't like to spend $ on people not working. So if the isles fire capuano who just signed an extension in the offseason and his staff, you have possible three people getting paid and 4 if you count Bertini out of a job. Wang won't spend the $2 mill on Laviollete which his contract with Philly requires. So if anything at all happens, Capuano will be reassigned and Weight will take over and myself and the fans and the players can all go (frank) themselves
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Dec 18 @ 2:49 PM ET
Does anyone think Garth Snow still carries a copy of the CBA around with him like he did when he first became GM? Does he still carry that old CBA copy around and not the new one?
- WolfmanIsles


I know one poster on here who carries it around
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Dec 18 @ 2:49 PM ET
Does anyone think Garth Snow still carries a copy of the CBA around with him like he did when he first became GM? Does he still carry that old CBA copy around and not the new one?
- WolfmanIsles

I think you're giving Snow too much credit.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Dec 18 @ 2:50 PM ET
I know one poster on here who carries it around
- Vukota

?
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Dec 18 @ 2:51 PM ET
I'm with ya. I want to see him do good but I wouldn't lose a second sleep if he got traded
- Vukota



for your sons sake, you should hope they trade bailey so he never realizes just how much he sucks. itll be a lot harder for your son to follow up if bailey is out in bumble(frank) canada
WolfmanIsles
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 02.05.2007

Dec 18 @ 2:51 PM ET
I think you're giving Snow too much credit.
- Cptmjl


Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Dec 18 @ 2:52 PM ET
I'm with you. My opinion on why a change hasn't been made is because Wang doesn't like to spend $ on people not working. So if the isles fire capuano who just signed an extension in the offseason and his staff, you have possible three people getting paid and 4 if you count Bertini out of a job. Wang won't spend the $2 mill on Laviollete which his contract with Philly requires. So if anything at all happens, Capuano will be reassigned and Weight will take over and myself and the fans and the players can all go (frank) themselves
- Isles316

That is exactly what he's doing right now.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Dec 18 @ 2:52 PM ET
If I were Vanek I wouldn't even dream of re-signing with the Isles. The team is abysmal. The ownership sucks. The coaches suck. The GM sucks. The only good thing going for the Isles is Brooklyn and JT and this miserably embarrassing losing streak is only proving that JT by himself isn't enough to carry this franchise out from under the Big Top to a place of respectability and competitiveness. Snow should move Vanek for a 1st, or more if possible, ASAP.
- Jethro09


Eh...I don't totally disagree with you though if I know about the players in this system and Barclay's around the corner, I'd give it consideration. I think ultimately Wang is willing to pony-up for Vanek which means he can bring in a damn fine contract. He can play with one of the top 5 players in the league as well as kids like Strome, Reinhart, Pulock Okposo etc. I think he'd likely choose Minnesota but that's provided Minnesota even wants to pay him that type of cash when they're already paying Parise and Suter huge money.

I figure that Snow should gauge what Vanek plans to do asap, tell him the overall plan...ask him to stop laughing, then trade him.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Dec 18 @ 2:53 PM ET
If I were Vanek I wouldn't even dream of re-signing with the Isles. The team is abysmal. The ownership sucks. The coaches suck. The GM sucks. The only good thing going for the Isles is Brooklyn and JT and this miserably embarrassing losing streak is only proving that JT by himself isn't enough to carry this franchise out from under the Big Top to a place of respectability and competitiveness. Snow should move Vanek for a 1st, or more if possible, ASAP.
- Jethro09



I was thinking last night that Wang & Snow don't deserve to have JT. They get this top of the line young stud and surround him with garbage. That's like finding a rare valuable gem and you keep in the shed between the shovel you use to clean up the dog shat in the yard and a gas can
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Dec 18 @ 2:53 PM ET
Eh...I don't totally disagree with you though if I know about the players in this system and Barclay's around the corner, I'd give it consideration. I think ultimately Wang is willing to pony-up for Vanek which means he can bring in a damn fine contract. He can play with one of the top 5 players in the league as well as kids like Strome, Reinhart, Pulock Okposo etc. I think he'd likely choose Minnesota but that's provided Minnesota even wants to pay him that type of cash when they're already paying Parise and Suter huge money.

I figure that Snow should gauge what Vanek plans to do asap, tell him the overall plan...ask him to stop laughing, then trade him.

- keaner17

Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Dec 18 @ 2:54 PM ET
?
- Cptmjl


Downeaster, c'mon man that was a layup
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Dec 18 @ 2:54 PM ET
If the GM were doing a sell job on him, that sell would include telling him that he can play with one of the best players in the world for next several years, and that the Islanders have several pieces that will allow them to be a contender in the long term.

I realize it's hard looking at the Islanders objectively as a fan of the team right now, but at the same time, they have some really good pieces in that organization. With JT, Strome, Reinhart, Pulock, et. in the system, and if you are luck enough to draft somebody like Ekblad this year, it really doesn't seem like a hard sell to make that the team could be real good.

To be honest, a team with the guys above would scare the beejesus out of me once they begin to develop.

- Pete V


Heh...should have read this before I basically said the same thing
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Dec 18 @ 2:55 PM ET
I was thinking last night that Wang & Snow don't deserve to have JT. They get this top of the line young stud and surround him with garbage. That's like finding a rare valuable gem and you keep in the shed between the shovel you use to clean up the dog shat in the yard and a gas can
- Vukota

I've thought this same thing numerous times. These guys are a joke. I'm sure when JT signed that contract he was sold a giant line of shat from Snow about what he was going to do to make the team competitive.
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