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niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Dec 18 @ 1:42 PM ET
I'm just tired of it. I am tired of the stupid plays in our own end. Nielsen throwing the puck in front of his own net with 3 minutes left is beyond dumb. It's the very first thing you learn in hockey. Throw it up the boards or behind your net.. never in front of your own net. They do stupid stuff in their own end constantly... won a face off on the PK and instead of hamering it down they threw it into their own end .. essentially served as a Dump and chase for other team. Bailey with his idiotic drop passes in his own end... I mean this is Basic stuff. Your first job is to clear your zone. ... to do that crap with a 2 goal lead and 3 minutes left is unforgiveable.

Then Grabner taking a shot at the open net from the other side of the red line.. Missing that results in an icing with a minute left is even more dumb. Take another stride and gain the redline.. very simple stuff. You make them chase and its another 15 seconds they would not have had to score that goal. It's constant stupidity.. The most basic crap in hockey. These are not rookies anymore. absurd!!
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Dec 18 @ 1:46 PM ET
I just relented the other night and told my 5 yr old he could root for the rangers if he wanted to. I can't put him through the same misery I have endured for the last 20 plus years
- Vukota


This is what upsets me about these boards. Why the Rangers? Once again they seem to be the measuring stick for many of you guys. They stink!! 23rd out of 30 teams. They have spent to the limit every year.. and used to spend much more than everyone and never won jack poop. 1 cup in 70 years.. 30+ of them with only 6 teams. (the only reason they won the one is b/c their current GM traded his whole Edmonton team to NY when he was the Edmonton GM). Pick a team he can be proud of watching if not the Isles.... certainly not the Rags.
Charlie21
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 10.14.2009

Dec 18 @ 1:47 PM ET
I'm just tired of it. I am tired of the stupid plays in our own end. Nielsen throwing the puck in front of his own net with 3 minutes left is beyond dumb. It's the very first thing you learn in hockey. Throw it up the boards or behind your net.. never in front of your own net. They do stupid stuff in their own end constantly... won a face off on the PK and instead of hamering it down they threw it into their own end .. essentially served as a Dump and chase for other team. Bailey with his idiotic drop passes in his own end... I mean this is Basic stuff. Your first job is to clear your zone. ... to do that crap with a 2 goal lead and 3 minutes left is unforgiveable.

Then Grabner taking a shot at the open net from the other side of the red line.. Missing that results in an icing with a minute left is even more dumb. Take another stride and gain the redline.. very simple stuff. You make them chase and its another 15 seconds they would not have had to score that goal. It's constant stupidity.. The most basic crap in hockey. These are not rookies anymore. absurd!!

- niteislander


All valid points. This loss aint on Cappy. The basic things you are talking about should not have to even be thought of at this level...it should be second nature to these guys. You are taught these hockey basics at 7 years old. As much as I can't stand him, your points are exactly why this loss is squarely on the players and not Soy Capitan.
Charlie21
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 10.14.2009

Dec 18 @ 1:49 PM ET
This is what upsets me about these boards. Why the Rangers? Once again they seem to be the measuring stick for many of you guys. They stink!! 23rd out of 30 teams. They have spent to the limit every year.. and used to spend much more than everyone and never won jack poop. 1 cup in 70 years.. 30+ of them with only 6 teams. (the only reason they won the one is b/c their current GM traded his whole Edmonton team to NY when he was the Edmonton GM). Pick a team he can be proud of watching if not the Isles.... certainly not the Rags.
- niteislander


In Vukota's defense I think he offered the Rangers because they're the other local team, not because they're a successful franchise. They've achieved significantly less in their history than us with significantly more resources.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Dec 18 @ 1:49 PM ET
You know what else I am tired of.. .never having a game where we got all the calls. Just once I want to feel like we got away with one. Clutterbuck takes a dumb penalty for a high hit (correct call).. gets out of the box and gets murdered with a high hit in front of the net.. No call.

Bailey 2 break aways.. tripped and hooked on both.. no call.

JT tripped dangerously and crashes to the boards.. no call.

This team does ANYTHING and they get a penalty.. yet teams kill our skill guys and don't get calls. We dominated this game (for 57 minutes) and if we got a few of thos calls it would have been a different result.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Dec 18 @ 1:50 PM ET
In Vukota's defense I think he offered the Rangers because they're the other local team, not because they're a successful franchise. They've achieved significantly less in their history than us with significantly more resources.
- Charlie21


I hear u... but choose the Devils then.. or anyone else. Fck the Rags.
Charlie21
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 10.14.2009

Dec 18 @ 1:52 PM ET
I hear u... but choose the Devils then.. or anyone else. Fck the Rags.
- niteislander


Devils bore the pants off me....just get Center Ice and root for anyone in the league.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Dec 18 @ 1:54 PM ET
My venting is over.. thanks for your time.. As you were!

P.S.- I was not at this game and did not participate in the "We want Moulson" chant. That said.. I do want him back.. with Vanek signed.. I want them both.

question.. Bailey seems to be waking up (a little)... For a long time last year we were all done with Okposo. It would be pretty Ironic if Bailey who was drafted the following year finally clicked at the same time. I can dream.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Dec 18 @ 1:54 PM ET
This is what upsets me about these boards. Why the Rangers? Once again they seem to be the measuring stick for many of you guys. They stink!! 23rd out of 30 teams. They have spent to the limit every year.. and used to spend much more than everyone and never won jack poop. 1 cup in 70 years.. 30+ of them with only 6 teams. (the only reason they won the one is b/c their current GM traded his whole Edmonton team to NY when he was the Edmonton GM). Pick a team he can be proud of watching if not the Isles.... certainly not the Rags.
- niteislander


He likes to watch hockey and he watches the Islanders, Devils and Rangers almost every night because they are on every night. I didn't think I really had to explain why he chooses to watch the local games that are on
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Dec 18 @ 1:55 PM ET
In Vukota's defense I think he offered the Rangers because they're the other local team, not because they're a successful franchise. They've achieved significantly less in their history than us with significantly more resources.
- Charlie21



Thank you. Didn't think it had to be explained
Jethro09
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 08.16.2007

Dec 18 @ 1:56 PM ET
This is what upsets me about these boards. Why the Rangers? Once again they seem to be the measuring stick for many of you guys. They stink!! 23rd out of 30 teams. They have spent to the limit every year.. and used to spend much more than everyone and never won jack poop. 1 cup in 70 years.. 30+ of them with only 6 teams. (the only reason they won the one is b/c their current GM traded his whole Edmonton team to NY when he was the Edmonton GM). Pick a team he can be proud of watching if not the Isles.... certainly not the Rags.
- niteislander

I think Mick said the Rags because of they're a ny team that provides another local option for his son to cheer for, not because Mick's using them as a measuring stick.

FWIW, I hate the Rangers, but nobody with a straight face could argue the point that the Rangers are a far better run organization than the Isles are.
Islesx4
New York Islanders
Location: AB
Joined: 07.09.2013

Dec 18 @ 1:56 PM ET

Yes change is needed but not via the trade route. No one wants our scrubs...they are scrubs for a reason. The only players other teams want are the young prospects and they will want to give up over the hill over paid veterans. (Anyone remember what we gave up for Trevor Linden?) Which will just put us back to square one.

The only choice is to fire the head coach. Is it the best choice? Who knows what the best choice is...I just have never been so disheartened by an Islanders team as this one. I can only imagine what the players felt while sitting in the dressing room after that complete and total meltdown.
Charlie21
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 10.14.2009

Dec 18 @ 1:58 PM ET
I think Mick said the Rags because of they're a ny team that provides another local option for his son to cheer for, not because Mick's using them as a measuring stick.

FWIW, I hate the Rangers, but nobody with a straight face could argue the point that the Rangers are a far better run organization than the Isles are.

- Jethro09


So was Enron

XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Dec 18 @ 1:59 PM ET
Also to the idiots chanting we want Moulson... this is the reason players don't want to come here.. that very reason... that is why we can't have nice things
- Dan Petriw



Dan I love ya.. but seriously??

Players dont want to come to long island because the fans hold the team accountable when they Sh!t the bed?? Really?

COME ON!!!!


XxNYIxX
Jethro09
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 08.16.2007

Dec 18 @ 1:59 PM ET
My venting is over.. thanks for your time.. As you were!

P.S.- I was not at this game and did not participate in the "We want Moulson" chant. That said.. I do want him back.. with Vanek signed.. I want them both.

question.. Bailey seems to be waking up (a little)... For a long time last year we were all done with Okposo. It would be pretty Ironic if Bailey who was drafted the following year finally clicked at the same time. I can dream.

- niteislander

BTW, anybody who was stupid enough to chant "we want Moulson!" Should be barred from attending games on the grounds of being too stupid to function. A chant like that serves no purpose and if you're going to waste valuable breath, chant "fire Cappy!" Or "Snow must go!" or "No more Charlie!" At least those chants pertain to the real problems with this organization.
Islesx4
New York Islanders
Location: AB
Joined: 07.09.2013

Dec 18 @ 1:59 PM ET
My venting is over.. thanks for your time.. As you were!

P.S.- I was not at this game and did not participate in the "We want Moulson" chant. That said.. I do want him back.. with Vanek signed.. I want them both.

question.. Bailey seems to be waking up (a little)... For a long time last year we were all done with Okposo. It would be pretty Ironic if Bailey who was drafted the following year finally clicked at the same time. I can dream.

- niteislander


I thought Bailey had a decent game last night. deHann doesn't look out of place either.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Dec 18 @ 2:00 PM ET
He likes to watch hockey and he watches the Islanders, Devils and Rangers almost every night because they are on every night. I didn't think I really had to explain why he chooses to watch the local games that are on
- Vukota


I understood it... just don't like it.. a real conversation with my kids on night:

Daughter 1: Dad would you mind if I was a Mets fan...
Me: Of course not.. u can be a fan of mets if you want.
Daughter 2: What about football can I root for the Jets or Eagles?
Me: again.. u can root for any team you guys want to.. but we have tickets to the Giants so I assume u will like that team.
Son: What if I want to root for the Rangers?

Me: You can move the fck out!!

they all laughed of course..
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Dec 18 @ 2:00 PM ET
He likes to watch hockey and he watches the Islanders, Devils and Rangers almost every night because they are on every night. I didn't think I really had to explain why he chooses to watch the local games that are on
- Vukota


I understood it... just don't like it.. a real conversation with my kids on night:

Daughter 1: Dad would you mind if I was a Mets fan...
Me: Of course not.. u can be a fan of mets if you want.
Daughter 2: What about football can I root for the Jets or Eagles?
Me: again.. u can root for any team you guys want to.. but we have tickets to the Giants so I assume u will like that team.
Son: What if I want to root for the Rangers?

Me: You can move the fck out!!

they all laughed of course..
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Dec 18 @ 2:02 PM ET
if only you knew...


- LetsGoIsles





XxNYIxX
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Dec 18 @ 2:03 PM ET
BTW, anybody who was stupid enough to chant "we want Moulson!" Should be barred from attending games on the grounds of being too stupid to function. A chant like that serves no purpose and if you're going to waste valuable breath, chant "fire Cappy!" Or "Snow must go!" or "No more Charlie!" At least those chants pertain to the real problems with this organization.
- Jethro09


I have stopped quite a few idiots in my time. I was at the Habs game when a moron tried chanting USA during the Canadian Anthem. I stopped that imediately.
Charlie21
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 10.14.2009

Dec 18 @ 2:04 PM ET
I thought Bailey had a decent game last night. deHann doesn't look out of place either.
- Islesx4


I hate Bailey slightly less than I hate Cappy and Snow. I hate Carkner and Amac on the same level as Cappy and Snow.
Jethro09
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 08.16.2007

Dec 18 @ 2:05 PM ET
My venting is over.. thanks for your time.. As you were!

P.S.- I was not at this game and did not participate in the "We want Moulson" chant. That said.. I do want him back.. with Vanek signed.. I want them both.

question.. Bailey seems to be waking up (a little)... For a long time last year we were all done with Okposo. It would be pretty Ironic if Bailey who was drafted the following year finally clicked at the same time. I can dream.

- niteislander

Enough with te Bailey "waking up" or "looking good" nonsense. He stinks. He's a skilled guy who can't put it together in games. He's Rob Schemp. He's in his sixth professional season. How many years does he get to "wake up" and produce points before everyone finally concedes that Bailey is a bust? Boulton is more productive than Bailey, for christ's sake.
Jethro09
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 08.16.2007

Dec 18 @ 2:06 PM ET
I have stopped quite a few idiots in my time. I was at the Habs game when a moron tried chanting USA during the Canadian Anthem. I stopped that imediately.
- niteislander

It's disappointing that they can't screen people before letting them into to the games. Some people are just ridiculous.
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Dec 18 @ 2:08 PM ET
Fear? I'm laughing that management would let a clown like you in their office to discuss players. They're dumber than I thought? How did you keep your hands off Snow(in a sexual way of course)? Again, tell the story or it's not true. Again, even if you do I don't believe it anyway but tell us for the comedic value of it all.
- Cptmjl



why do you think they asked me to come?
Jethro09
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 08.16.2007

Dec 18 @ 2:09 PM ET
I understood it... just don't like it.. a real conversation with my kids on night:

Daughter 1: Dad would you mind if I was a Mets fan...
Me: Of course not.. u can be a fan of mets if you want.
Daughter 2: What about football can I root for the Jets or Eagles?
Me: again.. u can root for any team you guys want to.. but we have tickets to the Giants so I assume u will like that team.
Son: What if I want to root for the Rangers?

Me: You can move the fck out!!

they all laughed of course..

- niteislander

That's great. I think if I had kids if be devastated if they cheered for the Rangers a, yet I don't want them to cheer for the Isles and submit themselves to a life of sports disappointment.
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