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The-O-G
Calgary Flames
Joined: 11.29.2011

Dec 18 @ 11:50 AM ET
really??

you being serious??

- faceto27


Actually ya.....everyone chirped Feaster. I think it was a great signing.
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Dec 18 @ 11:50 AM ET
Ok keep Carlyle and Phaneuf. What next?
- robin_steele264



Draft??
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Dec 18 @ 11:50 AM ET
yes..a quick partial rebuild like the sens did. not a complete one..hold onto your young players
- senstroll

It's paying dividends for them.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Dec 18 @ 11:51 AM ET
So in the past 5 years, there has been only one player that was worth overpaying for?

If that is the case, then the most prudent thing to do, is to not sign any UFA's at all.

- faceto27


I'm gonna go out and say Zdeno Chara.
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Dec 18 @ 11:51 AM ET
It depends. If you don't have any star players to spend your money on, why not take a change at signing UFAs?

I mean, it's not like it (frank)s up your cap situation if you don't have anyone to spend the money on and your team is allowed to spend to the cap limit.

- Pecafan Fan

Some of the best UFA signings are the complimentary type players like McClement, better bang for the buck.
The-O-G
Calgary Flames
Joined: 11.29.2011

Dec 18 @ 11:52 AM ET
Some of the best UFA signings are the complimentary type players like McClement, better bang for the buck.
- LeafMan


Hudler
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Dec 18 @ 11:52 AM ET
Hudler
- The-O-G

yep, good example.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Dec 18 @ 11:52 AM ET
Some of the best UFA signings are the complimentary type players like McClement, better bang for the buck.
- LeafMan


Obviously.

Prust is working out well for the Habs, so far.
The-O-G
Calgary Flames
Joined: 11.29.2011

Dec 18 @ 11:53 AM ET
yep, good example.
- LeafMan


Except that he turned out to be much more than complimentary
faceto27
Location: Burke: Best part of today is I
Joined: 01.21.2010

Dec 18 @ 11:53 AM ET
I'm gonna go out and say Zdeno Chara.
- Scabeh



I said past 5 years!!

friggen hab fans can't read properly
CarlitoBrigante
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 01.22.2012

Dec 18 @ 11:54 AM ET
Suter is a fabulous defenseman, but still overpayed.

Parise, is definately overpaid.

Both terms for those contracts is plain and simple stupid hockey management.

- faceto27


Makes me feel a little better about Clarksons contract.....but not much
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Dec 18 @ 11:55 AM ET
I said past 5 years!!

friggen hab fans can't read properly

- faceto27


My bad.

It's hard to evaluate some deals made in the past 5 years considering you don't know how they'll turn out.

If I had to guess, I'd say Minnesota will remain quite happy with Parise and Suter for a long time.
A_Tree
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm r00ting for you™ - KS, ON
Joined: 05.06.2011

Dec 18 @ 11:55 AM ET
stockpile picks. Trade the vets.
- Feeling Glucky?



Christ...
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Dec 18 @ 11:55 AM ET
Except that he turned out to be much more than complimentary
- The-O-G

The only drawback is, that if it is a one year deal and they break out, the next pay day will be big, then the bargain is not as great as it once was.
A_Tree
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm r00ting for you™ - KS, ON
Joined: 05.06.2011

Dec 18 @ 11:55 AM ET
Ok keep Carlyle and Phaneuf. What next?
- robin_steele264


You're always good for conversation.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Dec 18 @ 11:56 AM ET
Some of the best UFA signings are the complimentary type players like McClement, better bang for the buck.
- LeafMan

Yup. But you also need to get a big splash if you want to take your team to the next level.

It's rare that a team can get all the pieces it needs through draft and trade. Eventually, you gotta bite the bullet and overpay a player in UFA that you feel is important.

Leafs did that with Clarkson, and it hasn't panned out yet... but the whole roster has been changing on a game-by-game basis with injuries, suspensions, demotions, signings trades, and callups.

They need to settle things down and try to find some consistency.
faceto27
Location: Burke: Best part of today is I
Joined: 01.21.2010

Dec 18 @ 11:56 AM ET
My bad.

It's hard to evaluate some deals made in the past 5 years considering you don't know how they'll turn out.

If I had to guess, I'd say Minnesota will remain quite happy with Parise and Suter for a long time.

- Scabeh



10 years in hockey is a very very long time

The Leafs were legitimate cup contenders 10 years ago
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Dec 18 @ 11:57 AM ET
Christ...
- A_Tree

trade the best d-man on the team with no viable replacements and find a new coach mid-season.

It's not a recipe for success, unless the top pick in the draft is your idea of success.
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Dec 18 @ 11:57 AM ET
Yup. But you also need to get a big splash if you want to take your team to the next level.

It's rare that a team can get all the pieces it needs through draft and trade. Eventually, you gotta bite the bullet and overpay a player in UFA that you feel is important.

Leafs did that with Clarkson, and it hasn't panned out yet... but the whole roster has been changing on a game-by-game basis with injuries, suspensions, demotions, signings trades, and callups.

They need to settle things down and try to find some consistency.

- Feeling Glucky?

I think we hang our hat on that the second year he will settle down and be the type of player we hope we were getting, can't write him off on just a half season.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Dec 18 @ 11:57 AM ET
Who called the shots in terms of allowing Grobovski and MacArthur walk?
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Dec 18 @ 11:58 AM ET
Draft??
- Fruitcakenipple

I like this answer.
A_Tree
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm r00ting for you™ - KS, ON
Joined: 05.06.2011

Dec 18 @ 11:59 AM ET
Yup. But you also need to get a big splash if you want to take your team to the next level.

It's rare that a team can get all the pieces it needs through draft and trade. Eventually, you gotta bite the bullet and overpay a player in UFA that you feel is important.

Leafs did that with Clarkson, and it hasn't panned out yet... but the whole roster has been changing on a game-by-game basis with injuries, suspensions, demotions, signings trades, and callups.

They need to settle things down and try to find some consistency.

- Feeling Glucky?


Well I don't think standing pat is really a good idea either, it's hard to say. It's like gold prices last year. If you knew gold was going to drop $600.00 into this year...
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Dec 18 @ 11:59 AM ET
Who called the shots in terms of allowing Grobovski and MacArthur walk?
- spatso

HH
The-O-G
Calgary Flames
Joined: 11.29.2011

Dec 18 @ 11:59 AM ET
The only drawback is, that if it is a one year deal and they break out, the next pay day will be big, then the bargain is not as great as it once was.
- LeafMan


Definite problem....which is why Hudler for 4 years @ 4 worked out even better.

But it's tough to get guys to sign 3-4 year deals. Like you said they'd rather sign a 1 year and try to break out.....or sign for 6-7 years
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Dec 18 @ 11:59 AM ET
yep, good example.
- LeafMan

Another good strategy is taking runs at guys that other teams don't want, that you think can work in your system

Worked for Washington with Grabo.
Worked for Phoenix with Ribiero.
Worked with LA for Penner(Wanted Leafs to grab him)
And it worked for the Leafs with Raymond.

Get those boom or bust signings. Way better value.
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