I was on the trade Hiller and get Miller bandwagon for a while, but not the way Hiller's been playing lately. If they can keep both of their 1st round pick for the summer, they can use one to fill the gap when Teemu retires.

I was on the trade Hiller and get Miller bandwagon for a while, but not the way Hiller's been playing lately. If they can keep both of their 1st round pick for the summer, they can use one to fill the gap when Teemu retires.
- sudburyboy

Thats a good point. I forgot about you guys having two. Still I really think its gonna be hard to replace what Teemu brings. That isnt a slight on anyone just a testament to how good Teemu is.

Thats a good point. I forgot about you guys having two. Still I really think its gonna be hard to replace what Teemu brings. That isnt a slight on anyone just a testament to how good Teemu is.
- FrmRusiaWifGlov

if Evander Kane is on the block and locked up for a reasonable 5.25 mill. I'd trade both 1st round picks and throw in Bonino or Andersen. Getzlaf and Kane would be a dirty 1-2 punch up the middle.

I doubt that Kane gets traded to a western Conference team. Ek is throwing this out there because Steen is a free agent next season and his father still lives in Winnipeg and is a politician here.

Steen has gone on record saying that he would not want to play in a fish bowl like Winnipeg. Also the Jets are in the same division as St.Louis. To trade kane to a division rival would be stupid!

I'd say a team like Florida could be a good bet to land Kane. They have a lot of draft picks and prospects in their system and it seems like that is something the Jets are after.

Devin Setagouchi is going to be traded at the deadline. There is no way the jets resign him for next season. Another player that will be on the way out of town is Olli Jokinen.

Jokinen tries hard but he is not close to the offensive player he once was and his dzone play is horrible. That combined with poor penalties make him a guarantee to be moved at the deadline. Chevy will be lucky to get a 3rd round pick for him.

if Evander Kane is on the block and locked up for a reasonable 5.25 mill. I'd trade both 1st round picks and throw in Bonino or Andersen. Getzlaf and Kane would be a dirty 1-2 punch up the middle.
- sudburyboy

To get Kane its going to take a struggling teams 1rst round pick plus a top prospect.

Kessle received 2 firsts that what Kane would garner.

There is no denying that Kane wants out of Winnipeg. It's just a matter of time before he gets dealt.

if Evander Kane is on the block and locked up for a reasonable 5.25 mill. I'd trade both 1st round picks and throw in Bonino or Andersen. Getzlaf and Kane would be a dirty 1-2 punch up the middle.
- sudburyboy

Kane is a natural LW.

I think what you'll see with the Jets is a fire-sale at the deadline and a rebuild going forward.

Players that can bring in a hefty return will be moved. My belief is Kane and Buff get moved at the deadline.

Little I believe has a limited NTC as with Wheeler. Ladd has a modified NTC Buff has a modified NTC he won't accept a trade to 5 teams.

Tobias Enstrom got a NMC so he isn't going anywhere. (not that many teams would want him)

Panthers win 6 of 7 and are only 6 points out of the wildcard trailing the Maple Leafs with a game in hand. After one of the worst starts to a season in team history they have brought themselves back to at least having a legit shot at making the playoffs now. It would be huge if this Evander Kane rumor meant anything. Would be big to add a player like him mid season for a playoff push. Hopefully new ownership starts making mold moves to finally put this team in contention of making the playoffs a yearly thing.

I think what you'll see with the Jets is a fire-sale at the deadline and a rebuild going forward.

Players that can bring in a hefty return will be moved. My belief is Kane and Buff get moved at the deadline.

Little I believe has a limited NTC as with Wheeler. Ladd has a modified NTC Buff has a modified NTC he won't accept a trade to 5 teams.

Tobias Enstrom got a NMC so he isn't going anywhere. (not that many teams would want him)
- duckyjets

Whats the deal with Enstrom?

Whats the deal with Enstrom?
- FrmRusiaWifGlov

The deal is he sucks.

The deal is he sucks.
- duckyjets

Care to explain. I was under the impression he was a pretty decent puckmover. Like a top 4 guy. Maybe oft injured and a little overpaid.

Of course I dont really follow the Jets...

That is the problem because I don't see any blue chip prospects in the Hab's pantry.
- TJ

MDZ has been struggling mightily, everyone knows he's not the best in his own end. Diaz is not as good offensively but way better defensively, the Habs would not be adding a Tinordi/Beaulieu/Leblanc into that trade. The rumored deal out of Ottawa was a 4th liner and a 6-7th Dman for MDZ, so I wouldn't get your hopes too high for a MacKinnon type player in return for Del Zotto.

This can not go unappreciated.
- Elbows15

you're new here...

To get Kane its going to take a struggling teams 1rst round pick plus a top prospect.

Kessle received 2 firsts that what Kane would garner.

There is no denying that Kane wants out of Winnipeg. It's just a matter of time before he gets dealt.
- duckyjets

as a UFA, Vanek got a 1st, 2nd, and someone who will be flipped for a 1st. Kane will net a brinks truck

I totally believe that whoever misses out on Kane will make a play for Hemsky.

In other news, I missed out on a steak dinner and decided to eat cat poop.
- Morris

Ill back ek on this one 100%!!!!
Yes, Every team in the league would rather kane than hemsky.

MDZ has been struggling mightily, everyone knows he's not the best in his own end. Diaz is not as good offensively but way better defensively, the Habs would not be adding a Tinordi/Beaulieu/Leblanc into that trade. The rumored deal out of Ottawa was a 4th liner and a 6-7th Dman for MDZ, so I wouldn't get your hopes too high for a MacKinnon type player in return for Del Zotto.
- Komisaurus Rex

I don't see the purpose in moving DZ if the return will be what you say. He is only a kid, logs big minutes, has playoff experience with an affordable contract. Struggling is a subjective term, largely the opinion of a new coach, who is an equal enigma to me. Trade Girardi or Staal if that's what people think they want to pay for. DZ is not this team's biggest issue, in a cap controlled league, that pays defense premium bucks. Let the Edmonton's of the world continue to admire their soft offensive draft picks and continue to lose, like the worst teams in history, because they have no D.

I don't see the purpose in moving DZ if the return will be what you say. He is only a kid, logs big minutes, has playoff experience with an affordable contract. Struggling is a subjective term, largely the opinion of a new coach, who is an equal enigma to me. Trade Girardi or Staal if that's what people think they want to pay for. DZ is not this team's biggest issue, in a cap controlled league, that pays defense premium bucks. Let the Edmonton's of the world continue to admire their soft offensive draft picks and continue to lose, like the worst teams in history, because they have no D.
- TJ

Where are the other edmontons of the world, though there was only one edmonton. We'll take DZ or Giradi.

I don't see the purpose in moving DZ if the return will be what you say. He is only a kid, logs big minutes, has playoff experience with an affordable contract. Struggling is a subjective term, largely the opinion of a new coach, who is an equal enigma to me. Trade Girardi or Staal if that's what people think they want to pay for. DZ is not this team's biggest issue, in a cap controlled league, that pays defense premium bucks. Let the Edmonton's of the world continue to admire their soft offensive draft picks and continue to lose, like the worst teams in history, because they have no D.
- TJ

No.

We need good defenders. Not more mediocre ones.
Unless ur willing to deal him for a marginal return of course...

I loved the little edm hate at the end, as well as the plug for why mdz is so valuable even tho u wanna deal him.

Girardi, staal, mcd??
Sure. Let's talk

No.

We need good defenders. Not more mediocre ones.
Unless ur willing to deal him for a marginal return of course...

I loved the little edm hate at the end, as well as the plug for why mdz is so valuable even tho u wanna deal him.

Girardi, staal, mcd??
Sure. Let's talk
- hugefemale dog77

Not Staal, I think hes going to Carolina when his contract is up

Not Staal, I think hes going to Carolina when his contract is up
- oilstone

Agreed. Girardi ufa too. Either would have to include a reup.

But i was more commenting on the type of guys we need.

But no, we should take the one they want to dump. Otherwise we're stupid

as a UFA, Vanek got a 1st, 2nd, and someone who will be flipped for a 1st. Kane will net a brinks truck
- muffin_man

remember who made the trade though. Islanders are not exactly know for their intelligent trades.

No.

We need good defenders. Not more mediocre ones.
Unless ur willing to deal him for a marginal return of course...

I loved the little edm hate at the end, as well as the plug for why mdz is so valuable even tho u wanna deal him.

Girardi, staal, mcd??
Sure. Let's talk
- hugefemale dog77

No Oiler hate at all. Find me one analyst who thinks your management is smart in it's failure to address the teams glaring needs. Try Craig Button who blasted them last night saying they have zero chance to win more than a few games with the current roster. If the object is winning, how does anybody defend staying pat? Is winning the next trade more important than winning games? Twenty nine other teams and none willing to take one of your many same type offensively talented players and give you the type of players you need? I think not. Is your management stubborn, stupid or both? The fans deserve better.

No Oiler hate at all. Find me one analyst who thinks your management is smart in it's failure to address the teams glaring needs. Try Craig Button who blasted them last night saying they have zero chance to win more than a few games with the current roster. If the object is winning, how does anybody defend staying pat? Is winning the next trade more important than winning games? Twenty nine other teams and none willing to take one of your many same type offensively talented players and give you the type of players you need? I think not. Is your management stubborn, stupid or both? The fans deserve better.
- TJ

Agreed on some counts. But not all.

Mact hasnt even had the job for a year. And he has done some really good things. (gordon and perron-who's been a revelation)
although I do think hes finding the market tougher than he thought. "Oh u want our pretty good player"?
"Eberle"

I agree changes absolutely need to be made, but people have started to think its just an easy fix. We're gonna trade one of em, mgmt knows this. we just gotta get the right piece back. Not just trade for some plug just cause hes big and stronger.

Not to mention that there's also a core he's trying to build around. Not just through.
We didnt go through this just to be competitive. We were competitive before we blew it up. We want to be a perrenial contender.

So who do we deal?
Hall-he's our best player and the teams driving force.
Nuge- our 1 center and maybe the best long term.
Trading either of them is pretty silly in any realistic scenario.

One of the right wingers?
Eberle- u need complimentary scorers like him
Ykupov- same goes, but hes struggling and prob doesnt garner as much.
Also, u trade ebs and yaks continues to struggle; uve went from that position being one of your few strengths to a weakness.

Gagner? Is he worth much?

Of course we have to be willing to lose a trade to win one.
I just dont think its as open and shut as many outsiders see it.
No one is sick of this forever losing more than me, and changes will be made at some point.

Id say we can drastically improve thru dealing one or all of;
2014 1st
Gagner
Marincin/klefbom
Fa signing

Also, although button might be right in this instance as its pretty plain to see.
Generally he's an idiot.

This can not go unappreciated.
- Elbows15

Thank you

you're new here...
- muffin_man

Don't be jealous Muffy