Speaking of fighting...do you think anyone in today's NHL could go with the early 90s version of guys like Probert, Dave Brown, Grimson, etc? Those guys were absolute warriors who could take and throw. None of this grab/tie-up/rabbit punch/grab/switch etc. I don't care how big Jon Scott is, I think Probert would win and win easily against him.

Ty Anderson: Mass Appeal: Thornton fighting 15-game ban
- tyanderson

Next time Thornton slew foots a guy to the ice from behind, punches him once knockin ghim out, then again while unconcious, maybe a 15 game suspension and a big chunk of his salary will disuade him from making a similar choice again...because you know...suspensions are supposed to be a deterrent to undesirable behaviousr, not a reward.

I think this comes down go the organization taking responsibility and taking full control of the player like an adult to a child. Look what Pitt did after Cooke got suspended last year AGAIN. They basically laid it out that he wouldn't have a job anymore if he kept that garbage up. They made him change the dirty, garbage, cheap shot player that he was. And look what has happened. The guy gets signed by Minny, and if I'm not mistaken (dunno stats exactly) he doesn't have one major penalty and only 20 pim on the season. I'm sure Minny gave him the speech too before he signed.

The teams with repeat offenders need to step up and take care of these players. Like a bad little kid, nothing is gonna change until a parent steps up. I'm not saying that the enforcer role needs to be elimanted. But slew footing and bertuzzing a guy that clearly doesn't want to engage does not belong in the game.

I hope they increase it to 20, which is what he should of gotten in the first place!

Thornton should be getting up to 25 years in prison for playing the Knockout Game on the ice.

Speaking of fighting...do you think anyone in today's NHL could go with the early 90s version of guys like Probert, Dave Brown, Grimson, etc? Those guys were absolute warriors who could take and throw. None of this grab/tie-up/rabbit punch/grab/switch etc. I don't care how big Jon Scott is, I think Probert would win and win easily against him.
- jmatchett383

There are too many guys, present day NHL, that could hang with the likes of Probert and Dave Brown. There's not as many true tough guys in the league anymore because there's not really a need for them like there was back then.

Chara and Lucic are probably two of the toughest guys in the NHL, not in the class of the all-time best though.

Speaking of fighting...do you think anyone in today's NHL could go with the early 90s version of guys like Probert, Dave Brown, Grimson, etc? Those guys were absolute warriors who could take and throw. None of this grab/tie-up/rabbit punch/grab/switch etc. I don't care how big Jon Scott is, I think Probert would win and win easily against him.
- jmatchett383

Possibly. Although John Scott made Shawn Thornton drop to his knees quicker than a Kardashian

It shouldn't play in as much as the intent. One was accidental, one was premeditated.
Neal purposely attempted to injure Marchand in a manner which is well outside the regular standards of play.
- Canuckleafer

I understand, but major facial surgery, and nothing happened to Marchand.. Makes a big difference.

Possibly. Although John Scott made Shawn Thornton drop to his knees quicker than a Kardashian
- sbroads24

Possibly. Although John Scott made Shawn Thornton drop to his knees quicker than a Kardashian
- sbroads24

oh. good one!

- powerhouse

everyone seems to be down with guys getting their ass kicked as long as they play in different laundry than their team.

everyone seems to be down with guys getting their ass kicked as long as they play in different laundry than their team.
- Fountain-San

I hate goons!! I HOPE SOMEONE KILLS HIM!!!

I hate goons!! I HOPE SOMEONE KILLS HIM!!!
- Double_A

"i can't believe what he did to orpik!!"

"ha. scott killed him!!!!"

everyone seems to be down with guys getting their ass kicked as long as they play in different laundry than their team.
- Fountain-San

If it makes you feel better, I like watching Scott get beat too. I hate goons

The important thing is, Thornton's really sorry. Not 15 games sorry, mind you. But, you know, sorry.

There are too many guys, present day NHL, that could hang with the likes of Probert and Dave Brown. There's not as many true tough guys in the league anymore because there's not really a need for them like there was back then.

Chara and Lucic are probably two of the toughest guys in the NHL, not in the class of the all-time best though.
- LeftCoaster

Lucic is a wife-beating, spot-picker. Lost all respect for his "toughness" after watching him skate away from Georges Laraque all night, while Julien kept his balls in a purse.

If it makes you feel better, I like watching Scott get beat too. I hate goons
- sbroads24

people are severely underestimating Thornton's ability to play. he's a MUCH better player than Scott. aside from his mugging of orpik he's never done anything "goonish" other than fight.

Lucic is a wife-beating, spot-picker. Lost all respect for his "toughness" after watching him skate away from Georges Laraque all night, while Julien kept his balls in a purse.
- razr

you see his fight with Gadzik?

Thorntons suspension was for a Completly different reason than kaletas. I don't feel that bettman will lessen the suspension. Also, what are your guys opinions on the Lucic incident ?

people are severely underestimating Thornton's ability to play. he's a MUCH better player than Scott. aside from his mugging of orpik he's never done anything "goonish" other than fight.
- Fountain-San

He's not though. I have watched him play a lot. There is little difference to him, Scott, Orr, Parros etc. They all are there for one reason.

Lucic is a wife-beating, spot-picker. Lost all respect for his "toughness" after watching him skate away from Georges Laraque all night, while Julien kept his balls in a purse.
- razr

That's a mighty strong accusation.

He's not though. I have watched him play a lot. There is little difference to him, Scott, Orr, Parros etc. They all are there for one reason.
- sbroads24

ok

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- Double_A

Yes that 4.9 goals per 82 games really backs up your point. He must be so valuable. I bet you will then tell me he kills penalties or something. Well that 0:00 Sh/TOI statistic disagrees, but seriously try and prove his worth any way you can

Yes that 4.9 goals per 82 games really backs up your point. He must be so valuable. I bet you will then tell me he kills penalties or something. Well that 0:00 Sh/TOI statistic disagrees, but seriously try and prove his worth any way you can
- sbroads24

Argument: Thornton is a MUCH better player than John Scott

Proof:

Thornton Career PPG = 0.15 or roughly 12.3 per 82 games
John Scott Career PPG = 0.02 or roughly 1.6 per 82 games.

Conclusion: Thornton is 7.68x the player John Scott is.

Argument: Thornton is a MUCH better player than John Scott

Proof:

Thornton Career PPG = 0.15 or roughly 12.3 per 82 games
John Scott Career PPG = 0.02 or roughly 1.6 per 82 games.

Conclusion: Thornton is 7.68x the player John Scott is.
- Double_A

Back to John Scott are we? Very cool. I'll play.

-John Scott: Less dirty, more worthless
-Shawn Thornton: More dirty, less worthless

Vancouver: Trash
Boston: Trash

Edit: ^To clarify, this is in regards to the public calling each other classless for this and that.

Done.