I love patches too and would trade stepan + mdz for him and a pick probably. But nash is a 1st overall player and there are only a handful of guys like him in the league. I understand its an overpayment for you guys, but I think its what it would take for sather to say yes. Columbus got a bad return because.nash had a nmc and wanted to only come to ny. He's worth a lot more than wjat we got him for, and we still gave up a lot. 2 top 6 forwards, our best prospect, and a 1st rounder.
- rangerdanger94

Nash publicly ask for a trade too

Nash publicly ask for a trade too
- Prusthemust

Yea howson had zero leverage. Rangers offered substantially more at the deadline the year before we got him and.howson said no, and then was forced to take the deal he did over the summer.

Dubinsky is going to be the blue jackets next captain, anisimov is a solidified top 6 player on that team, erixon isnt in the nhl only because of the blue jackets amazing defensive depth, and they drafted rychel who looks like a potential draft day steal with that 1st rounder. They still got an excellent return.

I love patches too and would trade stepan + mdz for him and a pick probably. But nash is a 1st overall player and there are only a handful of guys like him in the league. I understand its an overpayment for you guys, but I think its what it would take for sather to say yes. Columbus got a bad return because.nash had a nmc and wanted to only come to ny. He's worth a lot more than wjat we got him for, and we still gave up a lot. 2 top 6 forwards, our best prospect, and a 1st rounder.
- rangerdanger94

1st overall don't mean that much to be honest. It's just a title that fades after a while. Truth is, even if he is super talented and all, at 7.8M for a guy who broke the 70 pts twice (give me a break with the poop CLB team, mtl is as poop offensively, at least his center has been for 2 years now), he won't get you that kind of return.

I don't know much about Erixon, but I'm having a hard time qualifying him as your best prospect...

also, a top 6 could as well be DD and Gionta.. just to show that top 6 could be worth close to nothing too.

I love patches but I dont think he can do the stuff nash does on the ice in his dreams even. Patches is on a bobby ryan level and nash is on corey perry's

As for subban and mcdonagh...fair trade but mcdonagh might be a top 5 defender in terms of shutting guys down and is our only consistent defenseman this season. Not to mention his AMAZING contract, which adds a ton of value. Subban is probably looking for 7 or 8 mil a year.
- rangerdanger94

I love Nash, I really do, and I'm not saying that Patches is on the same level. Heck, as of now, straight up, it's not even close. But to give Patches, Gallagher, prospect and first is simply too much. I don't know any team who would be willing to give that much for him. Patches and Gallagher together produce more than Nash and still cost 2M cheaper.

1st overall don't mean that much to be honest. It's just a title that fades after a while. Truth is, even if he is super talented and all, at 7.8M for a guy who broke the 70 pts twice (give me a break with the poop CLB team, mtl is as poop offensively, at least his center has been for 2 years now), he won't get you that kind of return.

I don't know much about Erixon, but I'm having a hard time qualifying him as your best prospect...

also, a top 6 could as well be DD and Gionta.. just to show that top 6 could be worth close to nothing too.
- Frank0721

Wow this post has to much ignorance.

Okay let me put it this way: we traded columbus their future captain, their 2nd line center (was 1st before emergence of johanson recently), our best defenseman who WILL be a top-2 defender, and a 1st for a guy whos as good as corey perry.

Patches couldnt sniff nash's jock strap. If you still think nash is overrated or as bad as patches, then you dont watch nash play. I feel bad for you, because you've been missing out on probably the most highlight goal scoring guy in the league with possibly the best hands in the league behind patty kane. Oh yea and hes 6'4 or '5.

If you want nash, prepare to gut your team with a package surrounding paciorettt bud.

I love Nash, I really do, and I'm not saying that Patches is on the same level. Heck, as of now, straight up, it's not even close. But to give Patches, Gallagher, prospect and first is simply too much. I don't know any team who would be willing to give that much for him. Patches and Gallagher together produce more than Nash and still cost 2M cheaper.
- Frank0721

I understand. Thats why so little deals ever get reached in this league. Gms never wanna pay the asking prices.

Patches and gallgher might produce more than nash combined...but those are probably your 2 best goal scorers. Think what nash and another top 6 player replacing the 2nd play you're trading im that deal would produce combined.

Nash would require a seguin-like return...maybe more.

do the rags have any midgets they are looking to unload?
- BlowMonkey

Just Hobbits

Just Hobbits
- BobbySchmautz

Not so loud! You might give Sather ideas. He currently looks like the best player on the roster and seems to have more tenacity than most of the lineup. I bet he could take Boyle straight up in a fight too

Wow this post has to much ignorance.

Okay let me put it this way: we traded columbus their future captain, their 2nd line center (was 1st before emergence of johanson recently), our best defenseman who WILL be a top-2 defender, and a 1st for a guy whos as good as corey perry.

Patches couldnt sniff nash's jock strap. If you still think nash is overrated or as bad as patches, then you dont watch nash play. I feel bad for you, because you've been missing out on probably the most highlight goal scoring guy in the league with possibly the best hands in the league behind patty kane. Oh yea and hes 6'4 or '5.

If you want nash, prepare to gut your team with a package surrounding paciorettt bud.
- rangerdanger94

Sorry but be more realistic, Anisimov isnt a top 6 on a quality team and Erixon have a hard time cracking the line up ( 0 goals, 7 pts in 50 NHL game), will be a top 4 if he develop well. Dubinsky is a great guy who does everything on the ice and have a mean game as well. Dubinsky < Patches, Anisimov = DD or Gio, Erixon lets rank him at the same level as Beaulieu (same hype at 20).

Sorry but be more realistic, Anisimov isnt a top 6 on a quality team and Erixon have a hard time cracking the line up ( 0 goals, 7 pts in 50 NHL game), will be a top 4 if he develop well. Dubinsky is a great guy who does everything on the ice and have a mean game as well. Dubinsky < Patches, Anisimov = DD or Gio, Erixon lets rank him at the same level as Beaulieu (same hype at 20).
- Prusthemust

Anisimov is a good player. Idk why you're knocking him. He was the player I was most upset with trading. 3rd liner on a good team? He was on our 1st line the year we won the eastern regular season title and made it to the ecf.

Erixon is still a great prospect and probably columbus's best or 2nd best prospect. Defenseman aren't judged on points so thats an irrelevant stats. When you think erixon, think marc staal, but probably more offensive upside as he develops.

Wow this post has to much ignorance.

Okay let me put it this way: we traded columbus their future captain, their 2nd line center (was 1st before emergence of johanson recently), our best defenseman who WILL be a top-2 defender, and a 1st for a guy whos as good as corey perry.

Patches couldnt sniff nash's jock strap. If you still think nash is overrated or as bad as patches, then you dont watch nash play. I feel bad for you, because you've been missing out on probably the most highlight goal scoring guy in the league with possibly the best hands in the league behind patty kane. Oh yea and hes 6'4 or '5.

If you want nash, prepare to gut your team with a package surrounding paciorettt bud.
- rangerdanger94

Yeah, I agree that I came out way out of line. Sorry about that, but really, look at what was giving for Nash (I know about how Howson was stuck and all, but forget about that for a second) and look at what you are trying to get for Nash.
Nash might be way more talented than Patches, (I'm not that stupid, I know he is), but so far they have been producing approximately the same. Like I said, Patches straight up is not even close, but all of that for Nash is really day dreaming, nobody would do such a deal for just 1 player. Like I said, I don't know much about Erixon, but on most of any other team, Dubinsky wouldn't be captain and Anisimov wouldn't be 2nd line center.

I don't think Nash is overrated, but I do think from what I'm seeing coming out of your post that you are under value Patches too.

I wouldn't mind getting Nash, I have seen plenty of him, but realistically, if that's the asking price, he is clearly not worth it.

I understand. Thats why so little deals ever get reached in this league. Gms never wanna pay the asking prices.

Patches and gallgher might produce more than nash combined...but those are probably your 2 best goal scorers. Think what nash and another top 6 player replacing the 2nd play you're trading im that deal would produce combined.

Nash would require a seguin-like return...maybe more.
- rangerdanger94

Problem is that the team won't be able to pay for the other top 6 player since Nash is getting paid 7.8M

I'd rather see a complete and balanced top 6 than having a full throttle first line and a meh 2nd line.

Anisimov is a good player. Idk why you're knocking him. He was the player I was most upset with trading. 3rd liner on a good team? He was on our 1st line the year we won the eastern regular season title and made it to the ecf.

Erixon is still a great prospect and probably columbus's best or 2nd best prospect. Defenseman aren't judged on points so thats an irrelevant stats. When you think erixon, think marc staal, but probably more offensive upside as he develops.
- rangerdanger94

Well currently when I think Erixon, I think Calvin De Haan. I mention is point total because he is a puck moving , 2-way guy. Like De Haan splendid in AHL, but hard time staying in the NHL.

Problem is that the team won't be able to pay for the other top 6 player since Nash is getting paid 7.8M

I'd rather see a complete and balanced top 6 than having a full throttle first line and a meh 2nd line.
- Frank0721

I don't know, granted, this is the first time I've looked at the Rangers cap situation for 2015 but it doesn't look that bad. They've got a projected $31M in space; I'm guessing big money will get thrown to Callahan but even then...

I don't know, granted, this is the first time I've looked at the Rangers cap situation for 2015 but it doesn't look that bad. They've got a projected $31M in space; I'm guessing big money will get thrown to Callahan but even then...
- S Kaspar Rollins

Girardi too, theirs cap scale is good, even with the big Lundquist contract

Wow this post has to much ignorance.

Okay let me put it this way: we traded columbus their future captain, their 2nd line center (was 1st before emergence of johanson recently), our best defenseman who WILL be a top-2 defender, and a 1st for a guy whos as good as corey perry.

Patches couldnt sniff nash's jock strap. If you still think nash is overrated or as bad as patches, then you dont watch nash play. I feel bad for you, because you've been missing out on probably the most highlight goal scoring guy in the league with possibly the best hands in the league behind patty kane. Oh yea and hes 6'4 or '5.

If you want nash, prepare to gut your team with a package surrounding paciorettt bud.
- rangerdanger94

Well it helps your case now that Kovalchuk retired.

Yeah, I agree that I came out way out of line. Sorry about that, but really, look at what was giving for Nash (I know about how Howson was stuck and all, but forget about that for a second) and look at what you are trying to get for Nash.
Nash might be way more talented than Patches, (I'm not that stupid, I know he is), but so far they have been producing approximately the same. Like I said, Patches straight up is not even close, but all of that for Nash is really day dreaming, nobody would do such a deal for just 1 player. Like I said, I don't know much about Erixon, but on most of any other team, Dubinsky wouldn't be captain and Anisimov wouldn't be 2nd line center.

I don't think Nash is overrated, but I do think from what I'm seeing coming out of your post that you are under value Patches too.

I wouldn't mind getting Nash, I have seen plenty of him, but realistically, if that's the asking price, he is clearly not worth it.
- Frank0721

Yea maybe I am undervaluing paccioretty, but honestly I think.highly of him.

Do you think pacioretty is a better player than eriksson?

Yea maybe I am undervaluing paccioretty, but honestly I think.highly of him.

Do you think pacioretty is a better player than eriksson?
- rangerdanger94

One is more physical (kinf of), almost same cap number, if we think production its the same.

Anisimov is a good player. Idk why you're knocking him. He was the player I was most upset with trading. 3rd liner on a good team? He was on our 1st line the year we won the eastern regular season title and made it to the ecf.

Erixon is still a great prospect and probably columbus's best or 2nd best prospect. Defenseman aren't judged on points so thats an irrelevant stats. When you think erixon, think marc staal, but probably more offensive upside as he develops.
- rangerdanger94

From what I see, Erixon is good and all, but you know as well as me that Dman are unpredictable. He is 22 and is having trouble cracking up the lineup. So far he isn't living up to the hype.

If I may add, Andrei Kostitsyn was on the 1st line when Habs went to conference finals. It still doesn't mean he was able to stay on the 1st line years after and on a different team (you know the story)

hahaha, you do realize that more than half the people that post here are;

a) unemployed, barely educated

B) employed, post here while at work = work ethic and morals are minimal

C) are cowards, and have way to much time on their hands to talk trash

D) are under 25 ( not everyone under that age are douchy, but anyone born after 1990 to me are (frank)ing useless for the most part)

E) Fill in the blank and continue on to F


to me if the rangers are going to deal with the habs, habs are looking for size and scoring, not Def, rangers are looking for scoring but responsible 2 way play and a few prospect to fill the cupboards. Personally i think nash to mtl could be plausible, but i think it would be more for Boyle or maybe just a pure hockey trade. a couple struggling stars that need new starts somewhere else, both teams have a few of said players.

i know we will never know what was said or agreed upon behind close dorrs when the habs gave mcdonnagh away for free, but maybe the habs have a; " you owe us one" with the rangers, in the spirit of making a trade. obviously a trade that makes sense for both teams, but hopefully a little bit more in the habs favor.
- munky123

Way to not sound douchy.

One is more physical (kinf of), almost same cap number, if we think production its the same.
- Prusthemust

Well the stars traded eriksson, a top prospext (morrow), a good young player (smith), and fraser for.seguin and a salary dump of peverly.

I think nash might have even more value than seguin. I think a deal for nash would be based on some similar package, if not more. I think pacioretty, gallagher, a pick, and a prospect fits the mold.

From what I see, Erixon is good and all, but you know as well as me that Dman are unpredictable. He is 22 and is having trouble cracking up the lineup. So far he isn't living up to the hype.

If I may add, Andrei Kostitsyn was on the 1st line when Habs went to conference finals. It still doesn't mean he was able to stay on the 1st line years after and on a different team (you know the story)
- Frank0721

He's having trouble cracking a deep blueline with some good young players in Columbus. He needs to learn the game a bit more, but he's here to stay.

Well the stars traded eriksson, a top prospext (morrow), a good young player (smith), and fraser for.seguin and a salary dump of peverly.

I think nash might have even more value than seguin. I think a deal for nash would be based on some similar package, if not more. I think pacioretty, gallagher, a pick, and a prospect fits the mold.
- rangerdanger94

On the other hand, Seguin is far younger, is a center, and has a friendlier contract.

Yea maybe I am undervaluing paccioretty, but honestly I think.highly of him.

Do you think pacioretty is a better player than eriksson?
- rangerdanger94

I feel they are close to be equal, but I'd say Patches by a little. Both are 70 pts guy on a really good contract. Really similar, but Patches is a little younger, and never really played with players like Jamie Benn and Brad Richards (in his good years). I think that Pacioretty ceiling is higher that Eriksson. (Would love to see what he can do with Jamie Benn and Richards by his side )

On the other hand, Seguin is far younger, is a center, and has a friendlier contract.
- S Kaspar Rollins

Very true. Franchise centers are hard to come by. Stars had depth on the wing allowing Erkisson to be expendable. Plus Eriksson is now always hurt. Stars really pulling ahead in this deal.