Datsyuk - 6
Zetterberg - 7
Franzen - 3
Kronwall - 1
Hudler - 2
Lidstrom - 3
Holmstrom - 10
Filpulla - 3
McCarty - 2



All their homegrown players that played in the playoffs that year for them and their draft round
- theblueandgold

Alright. A couple 2's and 3's

Datsyuk - 6
Zetterberg - 7
Franzen - 3
Kronwall - 1
Hudler - 2
Lidstrom - 3
Holmstrom - 10
Filpulla - 3
McCarty - 2

All their homegrown players that played in the playoffs that year for them and their draft round
- theblueandgold

While that list is nothing short of outstanding, I doubt you will see a similar success story from anybody for a long, long time if ever. The Red Wings, while great, are an anomaly.

I forgive you.

Why don't you like Moulson? Also if we get rid of him, it's likely for a 1 round pick which just reinforces the draft direction.
- sambarugh

Asking for your forgiveness was sarcasm.

Strangely enough mouslen was one of the few players I hated before the sabres got him. And he has shown me nothing to warrant a five million plus contract.

Im fine with acquiring more picks. Use them on players or trade the picks for someone the sabres
Desire. But the simple fact is they are going to have to spend money, a signicant of it to get to the floor. And I'll be damned if I'm told to keep quiet when I throw out some names I want the sabres to target in a sabres forum.

Asking for your forgiveness was sarcasm.


- Mentalorgasm5

So was his act of forgiveness, I'm pretty sure.

Side note

DD

403-178

While that list is nothing short of outstanding, I doubt you will see a similar success story from anybody for a long, long time if ever. The Red Wings, while great, are an anomaly.
- buffalofan19

The only top pick on the Red Wings team when they won the cup in 08, which they acquired via trade, was Brad Stuart #3 overall.





Red Wings are the perfect model organization.

Asking for your forgiveness was sarcasm.

Strangely enough mouslen was one of the few players I hated before the sabres got him. And he has shown me nothing to warrant a five million plus contract.

Im fine with acquiring more picks. Use them on players or trade the picks for someone the sabres
Desire. But the simple fact is they are going to have to spend money, a signicant of it to get to the floor. And I'll be damned if I'm told to keep quiet when I throw out some names I want the sabres to target in a sabres forum.
- Mentalorgasm5

You go girl!!

You go girl!!
- sambarugh

Sam you can update your location now.

I forgive you.

Why don't you like Moulson? Also if we get rid of him, it's likely for a 1 round pick which just reinforces the draft direction.
- sambarugh

Thank you

While that list is nothing short of outstanding, I doubt you will see a similar success story from anybody for a long, long time if ever. The Red Wings, while great, are an anomaly.
- buffalofan19

100% agree as you can see by the list its the areas scouts used to never go.

The only top pick on the Red Wings team when they won the cup in 08, which they acquired via trade, was Brad Stuart #3 overall.





Red Wings are the perfect model organization.
- theblueandgold

I really don't think so. If you wipe the slate clean, and make Ken Holland start from scratch, I highly doubt he reaches that kind of success again, not in the later rounds anyway.

I really don't think so. If you wipe the slate clean, and make Ken Holland start from scratch, I highly doubt he reaches that kind of success again, not in the later rounds anyway.
- buffalofan19

I bet he comes close. By your logic, a team that has made the playoffs for 2 decades straight has done it mostly by dumb luck. I don't buy that

Sam you can update your location now.
- Buffalo-Sabres

Oh yeah, someone give me a zinger.

Alright. A couple 2's and 3's
- alexthegr8

Great GM!

I bet he comes close. By your logic, a team that has made the playoffs for 2 decades straight has done it mostly by dumb luck. I don't buy that
- sbroads24

I don't think it's "dumb luck" that he has hit on so many draft picks. The luck part comes that nearly all of his main cogs have not come from the first round, or even first two rounds. I think Ken Holland still has the capability of building a good team, but I think his next generation is going to come more from the earlier rounds.

I really don't think so. If you wipe the slate clean, and make Ken Holland start from scratch, I highly doubt he reaches that kind of success again, not in the later rounds anyway.
- buffalofan19

Holland is an excellent GM. He went from scout to assistant to GM and has a immaculate résumé with the Wings

I don't think it's "dumb luck" that he has hit on so many draft picks. The luck part comes that nearly all of his main cogs have not come from the first round, or even first two rounds. I think Ken Holland still has the capability of building a good team, but I think his next generation is going to come more from the earlier rounds.
- buffalofan19

Guys fall in the drafts all the time. Datsyuk fell off a cliff because he was Russian and was considered risky. Teams knew his skill level to an extent. Holland pulled the trigger and hit gold.

Oh yeah, someone give me a zinger.
- sambarugh

Matt "Freakin" Ellis

GM coming soon?

Everyone is talking Reinhart and tanking? Look at Edmonton, hasn't worked. We have loads of $$ (salary cap floor) coming up next year, get some top young experienced FA and compete next year. That's LaFontaine thinking, trust me.

Throw $$ at:

Ryan Callahan
Paul Stastny
Yandle

Give McNabb the ice time he deserves

Big Z - future captain!

Move Miller/Ott for a young 1st line star.

This is the more realistic approach, not continuing on this path. Look at Drouin down in the minors, nothing is given
- Irish 14

I absolutely 100% agree with you.........

I bet he comes close. By your logic, a team that has made the playoffs for 2 decades straight has done it mostly by dumb luck. I don't buy that
- sbroads24

True response broads! Nice job!

I absolutely 100% agree with you.........

- rapperray

The Rapper!

Guys fall in the drafts all the time. Datsyuk fell off a cliff because he was Russian and was considered risky. Teams knew his skill level to an extent. Holland pulled the trigger and hit gold.
- sbroads24

couldnt be farther from the truth. so risky he went undrafted two years in a row

Holland is an excellent GM. He went from scout to assistant to GM and has a immaculate résumé with the Wings
- sbroads24

You're misunderstanding what I'm saying. I'm not saying he isn't a great GM. What I'm saying is that I doubt even he is able to mold such a great team out of so many late rounders again. When it's time to acquire the heirs to Zetterberg, Datsyuk, etc., he's going to get them much earlier in the draft, not in the late rounds again. They'll probably be more than suitable replacements. They just won't be 6th or 7th rounders.

Oh yeah, someone give me a zinger.
- sambarugh

The Rapper!
- Irish 14

In person...................