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sambarugh
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Meszároš has sick trade value, NY
Joined: 01.14.2008

Dec 13 @ 1:29 PM ET
An opinion isnt a point, like a I said if you dont like others talking about moves the sabres might do in the offseaon, this might not be the place for you.
- Mentalorgasm5


I've been on here for 6 years talking about moves the Sabres may or may not make. Now is not the time for moves bro.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Dec 13 @ 1:30 PM ET
No it literally proves that they are......
They took assets that they aquired through the draft and built a team. They didnt go sign mega free agents and win the cup

- sbroads24



I would call it building their team through trade moreso than through the draft. Building through the draft is picking and sticking with your homegrown talent. It might be nitpicking, but your overall point is that free agency is the least effective way to go.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 13 @ 1:30 PM ET
Where did I say centerpiece? Move on
- Irish 14

I love how you bring up a topic of debate, yet want everyone to move on? Theres nothing wrong with disagreeing on here
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Dec 13 @ 1:30 PM ET
I don't see the comparison? But understand what you are trying to say.
- Irish 14

just trying to slow down the super excitement over Zem. maybe i am just trying to do it to myself so I don't get disappointed.

I think they were picked nearly the same pick in the draft, weren't they
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Dec 13 @ 1:31 PM ET
You proved my point, thanks. Trade, sign FA and don't wait around. Thanks
- Irish 14


Yea make trades once you've established a core, and gathered assets to make those deals....through the draft.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Dec 13 @ 1:31 PM ET
I've been on here for 6 years talking about moves the Sabres may or may not make. Now is not the time for moves bro.
- sambarugh

A bro, when your in last, yea, it might be time to make moves, ya know what i mean, especially in the upcoming off-season man.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 13 @ 1:31 PM ET
I would call it building their team through trade moreso than through the draft. Building through the draft is picking and sticking with your homegrown talent. It might be nitpicking, but your overall point is that free agency is the least effective way to go.
- buffalofan19

Either way, the trades they made used high profile prospects that they or another team took top 10. The entire point remains, high picks = more talent= more options. That's how you build a team
Irish 14
Location: South Buffalo
Joined: 01.25.2007

Dec 13 @ 1:32 PM ET
I've been on here for 6 years talking about moves the Sabres may or may not make. Now is not the time for moves bro.
- sambarugh


Just your opinion, I can respect that. But........
Irish 14
Location: South Buffalo
Joined: 01.25.2007

Dec 13 @ 1:32 PM ET
I've been on here for 6 years talking about moves the Sabres may or may not make. Now is not the time for moves bro.
- sambarugh


Sorry Dbl post
Buffalo-Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I lost a bet, NY
Joined: 07.05.2007

Dec 13 @ 1:33 PM ET
The whole "look at edmonton thing" has to stop. Their problem wasn't that they started a fresh rebuild and drafted 1st overall three straight years. The reason they still suck is when it came time to pull the trigger on a big deal to address their needs (defense) from their surplus (offense) they balked at it and instead became obsessed with their draft picks.

As for building through FA, not a chance in hell either of those signs to play for this team. Callahan will remain the captain of the rangers and Stastny will go play for a contender. Building through FA is exactly why teams like NYR and Philadelphia (and even toronto to an extent) are a mess. If you want sustained success for plenty of years you need franchise players and those guys aren't available through FA because no team is stupid enough to let them go.

Once we get the franchise building blocks and the kids grow up a bit then the thought of playing for the sabres becomes more enticing to FA. I'd like to think we can do what chicago did, draft our Kane and Toews and then add secondary guys like Hossa and Campbell. If we start going balls to the wall in free agency we end up coming back full circle to the mediocre hovering around 9th place mess that we were in 2008.

- Sabresfan-365



That is very true. We still should look to make a bog move in the free agent market if its there to be made.
sambarugh
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Meszároš has sick trade value, NY
Joined: 01.14.2008

Dec 13 @ 1:33 PM ET
A bro, when your in last, yea, it might be time to make moves, ya know what i mean, especially in the upcoming off-season man.
- Mentalorgasm5


No, I don't know what you mean because when you're in last, making trades and/or signing FA's is essentially the last thing on your priority list.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Dec 13 @ 1:34 PM ET
just trying to slow down the super excitement over Zem. maybe i am just trying to do it to myself so I don't get disappointed.

I think they were picked nearly the same pick in the draft, weren't they

- IndianaSabresFan


Zem was pick 14. Paille was 20.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Dec 13 @ 1:34 PM ET
just trying to slow down the super excitement over Zem. maybe i am just trying to do it to myself so I don't get disappointed.

I think they were picked nearly the same pick in the draft, weren't they

- IndianaSabresFan



I think overall Girgensons has, and is projected to have, more talent than Paille ever did. However, you're correct. His hard-nosed, blue collar attitude makes many Sabres fans get more excited a lot earlier than they probably should. He's still very, very raw.
Irish 14
Location: South Buffalo
Joined: 01.25.2007

Dec 13 @ 1:35 PM ET
Yea make trades once you've established a core, and gathered assets to make those deals....through the draft.
- Sabresfan-365


Core!

Darcy's core
Irish 14
Location: South Buffalo
Joined: 01.25.2007

Dec 13 @ 1:36 PM ET
I love how you bring up a topic of debate, yet want everyone to move on? Theres nothing wrong with disagreeing on here
- sbroads24


Don't put words in my mouth about centerpiece, that all.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Dec 13 @ 1:36 PM ET
No, I don't know what you mean because when you're in last, making trades and/or signing FA's is essentially the last thing on your priority list.
- sambarugh

Haha, yea the Sabres will just remain 23 million under the cap in the offseason.

And youre gonna tell others to keep quiet when they discuess who they would like to see the Sabres to spend some of the money on. Be cool, brah.

Some of the most arrogant posters reside in this forum.
Irish 14
Location: South Buffalo
Joined: 01.25.2007

Dec 13 @ 1:37 PM ET
I would call it building their team through trade moreso than through the draft. Building through the draft is picking and sticking with your homegrown talent. It might be nitpicking, but your overall point is that free agency is the least effective way to go.
- buffalofan19


MORESO........

Really! What ever happen to you buff19?
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Dec 13 @ 1:37 PM ET
Core!

Darcy's core

- Irish 14




NOOOOOOO!!!!!
Maximum Signal
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2008

Dec 13 @ 1:38 PM ET
just trying to slow down the super excitement over Zem. maybe i am just trying to do it to myself so I don't get disappointed.

I think they were picked nearly the same pick in the draft, weren't they

- IndianaSabresFan


I agree 100% . This kid has a lot of growing to do . Let's not proclaim him the saviour yet . And I am the president of the Big Z fan club.
theblueandgold
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Denzel, WA
Joined: 03.05.2009

Dec 13 @ 1:39 PM ET
Detroit is the only team in the salary cap era to win the cup without having had multiple top 5, top 10 picks either playing on their team, or used in trades to get players on their team at the time of the cup.

The draft is pretty much the best bet to build a contender.

Buffalo looks to be headed towards 4 straight years of drafting two first round picks. Thats going to go a long ways in our rebuild. We either hit on all those players and become stacked, or we have to trade some away....
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Dec 13 @ 1:40 PM ET
No, I don't know what you mean because when you're in last, making trades and/or signing FA's is essentially the last thing on your priority list.
- sambarugh



Like it or not, the Sabres are going to try to "speed up" the rebuild plan Regier put into effect. If they weren't interested in making trades or signing FA's, they wouldn't be sending the rookies elsewhere, and they wouldn't make moves like claiming D'Agostini off of waivers. Unless a GM comes in and sells LaFontaine on a plan similar to Regier's, there will be moves that are made that don't come from the draft.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Dec 13 @ 1:41 PM ET
I think overall Girgensons has, and is projected to have, more talent than Paille ever did. However, you're correct. His hard-nosed, blue collar attitude makes many Sabres fans get more excited a lot earlier than they probably should. He's still very, very raw.
- buffalofan19


There are definitely comparisons that can be made between the two of them. The difference that I see though, is that Girgensons (at this point) doesn't seem like he would sulk if things didn't go his way. He seems like he's much stronger mentally than Paille is.

I will admit, I was really mad when they traded him. I have a signed Paille jersey hanging in my closet.
Tsyolin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: @TsyolinSounds, Rochester, NY
Joined: 02.19.2013

Dec 13 @ 1:42 PM ET
GM coming soon?

Everyone is talking Reinhardt and tanking? Look at Edmonton, hasn't worked. We have loads of $$ (salary cap floor) coming up next year, get some top young experienced FA and compete next year. That's LaFontaine thinking, trust me.

Throw $$ at:

Ryan Callahan
Paul Stastny
Yandle

Give McNabb the ice time he deserves

Big Z - future captain!

Move Miller/Ott for a young 1st line star.

This is the more realistic approach, not continuing on this path. Look at Drouin down in the minors, nothing is given

- Irish 14


I'd love Callahan here, he's got a work ethic twice the size of anyone on the current roster.

Even though he's a WNY native I doubt he comes here.
Buffalo-Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I lost a bet, NY
Joined: 07.05.2007

Dec 13 @ 1:43 PM ET
There are definitely comparisons that can be made between the two of them. The difference that I see though, is that Girgensons (at this point) doesn't seem like he would sulk if things didn't go his way. He seems like he's much stronger mentally than Paille is.

I will admit, I was really mad when they traded him. I have a signed Paille jersey hanging in my closet.

- HonkFortheGoose



He got elbowed in the face on a suspendable hit and skated away like nothing happened.
Maximum Signal
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2008

Dec 13 @ 1:43 PM ET
Like it or not, the Sabres are going to try to "speed up" the rebuild plan Regier put into effect. If they weren't interested in making trades or signing FA's, they wouldn't be sending the rookies elsewhere, and they wouldn't make moves like claiming D'Agostini off of waivers. Unless a GM comes in and sells LaFontaine on a plan similar to Regier's, there will be moves that are made that don't come from the draft.
- buffalofan19


No Doubt , but you the high value assets to make the big moves.
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