hubie
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Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY Joined: 06.28.2011
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The bottom 6 matters very little when your top 6 is dominant. That is why those parts are always interchanging.
When the Sabres top 6 consisted of - Vanek,Stafford, Connolly, Roy. That team was destined to fail from the start. - ImThatGuy
Key word is dominant. When the top 6 is dominant you can devote a line to to pend pk guys like Grier/ Hecht /Neidermayer
if you could transform that line and make it our third then im all for it.
and definetly interchangeable. IMO Kaleta can walk anytime Larrson Gus can fill his pk time and be an upgrade offensively and gus can hit better as well
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Maximum Signal
Season Ticket Holder Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Buffalo, NY Joined: 07.11.2008
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When Crosby came into the league, Pittsburgh signed a multitude of veterans to mentor him. They had signed Ziggy Palfy (whatever happened to that guy) and Mark Recchi to decent deals. Those veterans won't be hard to come by. I would imagine any GM would consider that. - buffalofan19
He even lived with Lemieux for a few years . Maybe Lafontaine will move McDavid in with him ! Let us Buffalo fans dream . At least you are in Vegas ( 89 ) while we are all freezing Butts off! |
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ImThatGuy
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Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY Joined: 11.04.2010
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Key word is dominant. When the top 6 is dominant you can devote a line to to pend pk guys like Grier/ Hecht /Neidermayer
if you could transform that line and make it our third then im all for it.
and definetly interchangeable. IMO Kaleta can walk anytime Larrson Gus can fill his pk time and be an upgrade offensively and gus can hit better as well - hubie
Correct which is why teams like LA, PIT, CHI, BOS, DET are consistently good. It is not due to their bottom 6. |
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hubie
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY Joined: 06.28.2011
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Correct which is why teams like LA, PIT, CHI, BOS, DET are consistently good. It is not due to their bottom 6. - ImThatGuy
Id bet good money on that the bottom six of those teams are on other rosters now. Kris Versteeg comes to mind |
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SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y. Joined: 02.17.2007
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He even lived with Lemieux for a few years . Maybe Lafontaine will move McDavid in with him ! Let us Buffalo fans dream . At least you are in Vegas ( 89 ) while we are all freezing Butts off! - Maximum Signal
I'd move back home if I could trust me |
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Correct which is why teams like LA, PIT, CHI, BOS, DET are consistently good. It is not due to their bottom 6. - ImThatGuy
LA, BOS, CHI, DET have bottom 6 that set them apart from the VAN, SJ, ANA, NYR of the NHL.... |
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buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes Joined: 07.01.2007
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Id bet good money on that the bottom six of those teams are on other rosters now. Kris Versteeg comes to mind - hubie
There are two kinds of bottom 6 players: youngsters that could be top 6 players but their team is so deep that there's no place else to put them (Versteeg types), and then there are actual grinders. The first type often goes to other teams, or gets moved up to the top 6 after they ship older players out. The grinders are interchangeable. There's a reason they don't get paid very much, relatively speaking. |
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HonkFortheGoose
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Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY Joined: 07.26.2008
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I'd move back home if I could trust me - SABRES 89
If you had to deal with the weather here this week, you would quickly change your mind. I feel like I'm living in Minnesota or something. I know we get cold and snow here, but this is just unreal. |
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Maximum Signal
Season Ticket Holder Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Buffalo, NY Joined: 07.11.2008
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I'd move back home if I could trust me - SABRES 89
Better to stay where you are . Job market sucks here.
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hubie
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY Joined: 06.28.2011
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If you had to deal with the weather here this week, you would quickly change your mind. I feel like I'm living in Minnesota or something. I know we get cold and snow here, but this is just unreal. - HonkFortheGoose
Better than having unbearable heat where you cant go out during the day |
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ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY Joined: 11.04.2010
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LA, BOS, CHI, DET have bottom 6 that set them apart from the VAN, SJ, ANA, NYR of the NHL.... - theblueandgold
False. They are always changing. Bottom 6 players come and go. That is why most are on 1-2 year contracts.
The bottom 6 is interchangeable.
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ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY Joined: 11.04.2010
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If you had to deal with the weather here this week, you would quickly change your mind. I feel like I'm living in Minnesota or something. I know we get cold and snow here, but this is just unreal. - HonkFortheGoose
When I win the mega Millions on Tuesday I told everyone They can find me in Charleston SC in the summer and Savannah GA or Miami FL in the winter.
I hate snow and everything about it. |
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buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes Joined: 07.01.2007
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If you had to deal with the weather here this week, you would quickly change your mind. I feel like I'm living in Minnesota or something. I know we get cold and snow here, but this is just unreal. - HonkFortheGoose
I was in Florida all last week. Sunny. 80. Everyday. |
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sbroads24
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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False. They are always changing. Bottom 6 players come and go. That is why most are on 1-2 year contracts.
The bottom 6 is interchangeable. - ImThatGuy
That being said, I doubt any team wins the cup with Matt Ellis and John Scott getting minutes. Your bottom 6 playing well and being able to contribute is what will set you apart from other teams.
Bickell and Paille were both key last season for each cup team. One could argue that if it wasn't one of them someone would have stepped up but still |
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ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY Joined: 11.04.2010
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That being said, I doubt any team wins the cup with Matt Ellis and John Scott getting minutes. Your bottom 6 playing well and being able to contribute is what will set you apart from other teams.
Bickell and Paille were both key last season for each cup team. One could argue that if it wasn't one of them someone would have stepped up but still - sbroads24
I agree anyone that has John Scott playing decent (Greater than 5 min a game) has problems.
Those teams did not win the cup because of the bottom 6 though. They won because they had Crosby, Malkin, Toews, Kane, Sharp, Kopitar, Brown, Richards Carter, Getlaf, Perry, Ryan etc.
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hubie
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY Joined: 06.28.2011
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That being said, I doubt any team wins the cup with Matt Ellis and John Scott getting minutes. Your bottom 6 playing well and being able to contribute is what will set you apart from other teams.
Bickell and Paille were both key last season for each cup team. One could argue that if it wasn't one of them someone would have stepped up but still - sbroads24
Thats because Matt Ellis is ineligable to play in the playoffs to level out the playing field. IF he was on such a roster there would be a sweep in every round for that team and would kill the tv ratings so the nhl wouldnt allow that to happen. |
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sbroads24
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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I agree anyone that has John Scott playing decent (Greater than 5 min a game) has problems.
Those teams did not win the cup because of the bottom 6 though. They won because they had Crosby, Malkin, Toews, Kane, Sharp, Kopitar, Brown, Richards Carter, Getlaf, Perry, Ryan etc. - ImThatGuy
Right. I don't think any one would think that a strong bottom 6 will take you anywhere on their own. But if you have an injury to your top 6 in the playoffs and your forced to bump up Pat Kaleta or Cody McCormick, ain't nobody got time for that |
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sbroads24
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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Thats because Matt Ellis is ineligable to play in the playoffs to level out the playing field. IF he was on such a roster there would be a sweep in every round for that team and would kill the tv ratings so the nhl wouldnt allow that to happen. - hubie
True. |
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stashu
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: SC Joined: 06.04.2008
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When I win the mega Millions on Tuesday I told everyone They can find me in Charleston SC in the summer and Savannah GA or Miami FL in the winter.
I hate snow and everything about it. - ImThatGuy
LOVE Charleston!!! But it gets pretty ugly in the summer |
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IndianaSabresFan
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Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN Joined: 01.17.2007
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Right. I don't think any one would think that a strong bottom 6 will take you anywhere on their own. But if you have an injury to your top 6 in the playoffs and your forced to bump up Pat Kaleta or Cody McCormick, ain't nobody got time for that - sbroads24
what if your are forced to play rory fitzpatrick in your top d pairing |
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IndianaSabresFan
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Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN Joined: 01.17.2007
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When I win the mega Millions on Tuesday I told everyone They can find me in Charleston SC in the summer and Savannah GA or Miami FL in the winter.
I hate snow and everything about it. - ImThatGuy
too many stupid people.. i would probably have to move to some secluded area to get away from them |
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sbroads24
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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what if your are forced to play rory fitzpatrick in your top d pairing - IndianaSabresFan
Then your forced to have an All star defensemen on your top pair |
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We don't need Leino for anything if Moulson and Ott want to stay that's one way or if not there are other players to bring in that can actually contribute to this team. Leino is and always will be a waste. - SABRES 89
I would be all for signing Moulson and Ott, question is if they would want to sign here. Those two still dont cover the amount you'll have to spend, especially if Miller doesnt sign here. |
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ImThatGuy
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Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY Joined: 11.04.2010
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LOVE Charleston!!! But it gets pretty ugly in the summer - stashu
Good. I happen to like the heat. |
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SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y. Joined: 02.17.2007
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If you had to deal with the weather here this week, you would quickly change your mind. I feel like I'm living in Minnesota or something. I know we get cold and snow here, but this is just unreal. - HonkFortheGoose
It's been cold here to some, 23 at night |
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