So 1 year ago the Leafs had very close to the same record...and you've had much better goaltending this year. Hmmmmm!
- whipper334

1 year ago Calgary still sucked. 1 year before that Calgary still sucked. interestingly, I predict 1 year later Calgary will suck. I also predict that in another year, Calgary will still suck

i think gunnar should be sat

honestly.. this would be how i would pencil in the D with everyone available

phaneuf gardiner
liles rielly/gunnar
ranger franson

with phaneuf playing a stay at home style pairing him with gardiner isnt a bad move. gardiner also can draw guys to him with his skating opening up phaneuf and that big shot of his

liles with rielly would be in a mentior role.. liles with gunnar is just a pairing that would be all around effective.. also gets gunnar away from the primary assignments

ranger franson, pretty straightforward third pairing. same as last year but with ranger in frasers spot.
- Dozzer

Who do you see as FA targets? I want Greene and Girardi.

- whipper334

That looks like Komisarek!

- whipper334

Yes your child is beautiful now tell him to put a shirt on.

i think gunnar should be sat

honestly.. this would be how i would pencil in the D with everyone available

phaneuf gardiner
liles rielly/gunnar
ranger franson

with phaneuf playing a stay at home style pairing him with gardiner isnt a bad move. gardiner also can draw guys to him with his skating opening up phaneuf and that big shot of his

liles with rielly would be in a mentior role.. liles with gunnar is just a pairing that would be all around effective.. also gets gunnar away from the primary assignments

ranger franson, pretty straightforward third pairing. same as last year but with ranger in frasers spot.
- Dozzer

I actually agree with this 100%. I might swap Liles with Franson but otherwise looks good. Forget Gimparsson. I do think they should try Gardiner with Phaneuf though. #51 has been leading the team in ice time lately. I think he can handle it.

1 year ago Calgary still sucked. 1 year before that Calgary still sucked. interestingly, I predict 1 year later Calgary will suck. I also predict that in another year, Calgary will still suck
- twiztedmike

1 year ago Calgary still sucked. 1 year before that Calgary still sucked. interestingly, I predict 1 year later Calgary will suck. I also predict that in another year, Calgary will still suck
- twiztedmike

Nice retort!

whadya mean the ford focus cant go as fast as a porsche?

geez.. ford really dropping the ball there.
- Dozzer

what makes it worse is people saying we prefer Ranger when we have said if someone does better or they have a replacement then by all means cut him loose.

Pretty sure if they thought Percy, Granberg or MacWilliams were ready, they be up here.

Crack ball?
- Yeti1181

we're not talking about the flex here.

Yes your child is beautiful now tell him to put a shirt on.
- Yeti1181

And his mom is your wife...

what makes it worse is people saying we prefer Ranger when we have said if someone does better or they have a replacement then by all means cut him loose.

Pretty sure if they thought Percy, Granberg or MacWilliams were ready, they be up here.
- LeafMan

I think all three would be an upgrade. All in all none make a huge difference so might as well let them develop.

And his mom is your wife...
- whipper334

Whipper!!!

Who do you see as FA targets? I want Greene and Girardi.
- iTOLDu

both would be good.. but its a bit early yet.

need to see what nonis does mid season.. if anything.

we're not talking about the flex here.
- Dozzer

I'm talking about the mayor boo yah

I actually agree with this 100%. I might swap Liles with Franson but otherwise looks good. Forget Gimparsson. I do think they should try Gardiner with Phaneuf though. #51 has been leading the team in ice time lately. I think he can handle it.
- TheThrill

i dont know if i would give franson second pairing minutes.. he has looked over matched all year.. last year.. bottom pairing assignments and PP and he looked good.. this is where he needs to be i think.

both would be good.. but its a bit early yet.

need to see what nonis does mid season.. if anything.
- Dozzer

Let's he hope he does do something

Nice retort!
- whipper334

Don't get too down it applies to Edmonton too

... and the Leafs

i dont know if i would give franson second pairing minutes.. he has looked over matched all year.. last year.. bottom pairing assignments and PP and he looked good.. this is where he needs to be i think.
- Dozzer

Thing is Bruce, Franson is the only one producing on the PP, if you lose that then we have to rely heavily on Rielly and Gardiner.

Having said that, 3 million plus for Franson and we might have another Gunnarsson situation.

whadya mean the ford focus cant go as fast as a porsche?

geez.. ford really dropping the ball there.
- Dozzer

Ford Shelby

Let's he hope he does do something
- Yeti1181

I don't see him doing anything. Gardiner is playing to good to be traded now. Kulemin is probably the only offense we would ship out, maybe MayRay. May be forced into moving Phaneuf or Franson. Besides me saying all that, are there really any trade partners out there for what we need?

i dont know if i would give franson second pairing minutes.. he has looked over matched all year.. last year.. bottom pairing assignments and PP and he looked good.. this is where he needs to be i think.
- Dozzer

Yeah, I can buy into that too. Franny may need to be moved at the deadline though, as he will want top 4 money and so far isn't playing up to that. He looked decent last night though. Actually made Gunnarsson not look quite so terrible

i think gunnar should be sat

honestly.. this would be how i would pencil in the D with everyone available

phaneuf gardiner
liles rielly/gunnar
ranger franson

with phaneuf playing a stay at home style pairing him with gardiner isnt a bad move. gardiner also can draw guys to him with his skating opening up phaneuf and that big shot of his

liles with rielly would be in a mentior role.. liles with gunnar is just a pairing that would be all around effective.. also gets gunnar away from the primary assignments

ranger franson, pretty straightforward third pairing. same as last year but with ranger in frasers spot.
- Dozzer

So many 's in one paragraph!

I don't see him doing anything. Gardiner is playing to good to be traded now. Kulemin is probably the only offense we would ship out, maybe MayRay. May be forced into moving Phaneuf or Franson. Besides me saying all that, are there really any trade partners out there for what we need?
- iTOLDu

Perhaps package them in February for O Reilly

Where's big_dion to weigh in on this?

Another bright spot, that was the best I've seen Kulimen play in years.