Forwards we're helping out the d.
- Yeti1181

This was the difference really, a lot of people don't realize that but the defense gets next to no help from our forwards.

Karlsson 3 is a joke.. he is a defensive liability.... and Markov is no longer on that list either.........
- jribout

Yea, Phaneuf easily slots in at #10 on that list

finally started playing their game again

More physical, and skated their butts off.

Hopefully we didn't just look good because LA was tired.
- Feeling Glucky?

And lets hope we dont become LA against STL

This was the difference really, a lot of people don't realize that but the defense gets next to no help from our forwards.
- iTOLDu

Exactly they are to eager to blow the zone.

So, Leafs without their captain....how'd it go!?

And lets hope we dont become LA against STL
- peddy-93

I wouldn't mind being LA with the 2 points.

But we did win Corsi. So we've got that going for us.

Toronto owed the hockey gods anyway. They've been winning games while being the 2nd best team far too often this year.
- daeth

yeah agreed

Funny you say that. Wife is looking for me to buy her one. Are they any good. Or, are they as good as the guy says they are?
- bixll

Brother has one...Expensive but he claims it's well worth the coin..

So, Leafs without their captain....how'd it go!?
- Colin_Dambrauskas

Same as it went whenever Sundin was out.

Team stepped up.

Karlsson 3 is a joke.. he is a defensive liability.... and Markov is no longer on that list either.........
- jribout

Markov is easily still a top-20 dman in the NHL. he's been phenomenal this year.

Markov is easily still a top-20 dman in the NHL. he's been phenomenal this year.
- DoubleDown

Havent watched MTL enough to argue, but #12? I'd rather Phaneuf

Markov is easily still a top-20 dman in the NHL. he's been phenomenal this year.
- DoubleDown

He's been better than I thought he could still be.

Havent watched MTL enough to argue, but #12? I'd rather Phaneuf
- peddy-93

Long term I'd rather Dion.


This year Markov

Long term I'd rather Dion.


This year Markov
- robin_steele264

You'd take Nick Schultz over Dion.

You'd take Nick Schultz over Dion.
- Feeling Glucky?

You'd take Nick Schultz over Dion.
- Feeling Glucky?

Don't be stupid.

Could we pry RoR out of Colorado for Dion? (in February or whenever it is possible)


I have to figure Dion has some significant value, but the Leafs CAN play a solid game without him. Considering the number of young Dmen in the system, the huge dollars that Dion is going to command may be better spent elsewhere.

Long term I'd rather Dion.


This year Markov
- robin_steele264

Tough call, Phaneuf has also had a very good year this year.

I'm in a rubber duck car wash.



Very exciting

Same as it went whenever Sundin was out.

Team stepped up.
- Feeling Glucky?

iiinteresting....how was the game, I missed it?...was playing back to back hockey

mornin'

Could we pry RoR out of Colorado for Dion? (in February or whenever it is possible)


I have to figure Dion has some significant value, but the Leafs CAN play a solid game without him. Considering the number of young Dmen in the system, the huge dollars that Dion is going to command may be better spent elsewhere.
- Aetherial

thing is, the money SHOULD be spent on the backend...though I agree not necessarily on Dion.

Could we pry RoR out of Colorado for Dion? (in February or whenever it is possible)


I have to figure Dion has some significant value, but the Leafs CAN play a solid game without him. Considering the number of young Dmen in the system, the huge dollars that Dion is going to command may be better spent elsewhere.
- Aetherial

I'd probably do that deal. But then we would definitely have to lose Gardiner in a trade for a shutdown guy, or pick one up in FA which I don't see happening.

iiinteresting....how was the game, I missed it?...was playing back to back hockey
- Colin Dambrauskas

Best game the team played as a whole all year, one bad mistake by Ranger but I still think Bernier could have stopped that.

They got out goalied but deserved the win.

Phaneuf who?

edit: Rielly and Gardiner were the best d out there for both teams along with Doughty

as for all your discussions about phaneuf.. the fact remains..

he is not a top 10 defender who is looking to get paid like a top 5