Here we go
- robin_steele264

I was just curious I couldn't think of that many and needed help

I was just curious I couldn't think of that many and needed help
- Yeti1181

I got to 8 solid candidates

Then the rest became debatable.

I got to 8 solid candidates

Then the rest became debatable.
- Viktory

You must be wrong then. He is a number 2 at best so there must be 30 at least. Keep trying.

You must be wrong then. He is a number 2 at best so there must be 30 at least. Keep trying.
- Yeti1181

I believe someone said a 3 at best.

I believe someone said a 3 at best.
- Viktory

Then we need 60 to 75+ then. Getting cracking we will solve this mystery.

Karlsson can move the puck out of his zone with ease
- robin_steele264

Seems to me Ottawa gets scored on a lot when he's on the ice, for a guy that clears the zone with ease so well.

Seems to me Ottawa gets scored on a lot when he's on the ice, for a guy that clears the zone with ease so well.
- Yeti1181

He's got his faults. Lots to learn. But the skating and puck handling skill is absolute world class.

When he doesn't have the puck... Needs work sure.

His play has improved greatly.

Even his last year with calgary I couldnt get over how he was just all over the ice.

Guy's skating and mobility is as good as it gets
- robin_steele264

How many years was JBo looked at as a bust? Most of his career now two good years he's an elte d all of the sudden? Phaneuf has had more elite years but isn't any good. I don't mind the discussion on what we think of who vs who but can we try and be consistent on our rating systems otherwise this is all just bullpoop arguements that prove nothing.

He's got his faults. Lots to learn. But the skating and puck handling skill is absolute world class.

When he doesn't have the puck... Needs work sure.
- robin_steele264

Skating and puck handling are indeed world class but if he not using them to help the defense as a dman then they begin to become redundant.

How many years was JBo looked at as a bust? Most of his career now two good years he's an elte d all of the sudden? Phaneuf has had more elite years but isn't any good. I don't mind the discussion on what we think of who vs who but can we try and be consistent on our rating systems otherwise this is all just bullpoop arguements that prove nothing.
- Yeti1181

JBo was never considered a bust.

No idea waft your getting at with this.

Skating and puck handling are indeed world class but if he not using them to help the defense as a dman then they begin to become redundant.
- Yeti1181

I guess.

How many years was JBo looked at as a bust? Most of his career now two good years he's an elte d all of the sudden? Phaneuf has had more elite years but isn't any good. I don't mind the discussion on what we think of who vs who but can we try and be consistent on our rating systems otherwise this is all just bullpoop arguements that prove nothing.
- Yeti1181

No one said phaneuf isn't any good.

No one said phaneuf isn't any good.
- robin_steele264

Read back through these pages there's a few guys saying he sucked.

JBo was never considered a bust.

No idea waft your getting at with this.
- robin_steele264

For years JBo was poop on for not living up to his potential.

Read back through these pages there's a few guys saying he sucked.
- Yeti1181

Well I didn't, and you seem to be directing this at me.

For years JBo was poop on for not living up to his potential.
- Yeti1181

No.

He was the lone bright spot on a horrible panther team.

Some said he was a bust in Calgary but they obviously liked him more than Dion and like I said... Couldn't get over his play in the last year he was with them.

I believe someone said a 3 at best.
- Viktory

Depends on the team.

For example, on the Kings, he's a #3.

On the Ducks, he's a #1.

Well I didn't, and you seem to be directing this at me.
- robin_steele264

It was just a general comment about the people commenting in the thread. It was directed at you cause I'm talking to you.

It was just a general comment about the people commenting in the thread. It was directed at you cause I'm talking to you.
- Yeti1181

There certainly were lots of bullpoop arguments.


I thought mostly coming from the president of his fan club.

There certainly were lots of bullpoop arguments.


I thought mostly coming from the president of his fan club.
- robin_steele264

No.

He was the lone bright spot on a horrible panther team.

Some said he was a bust in Calgary but they obviously liked him more than Dion and like I said... Couldn't get over his play in the last year he was with them.
- robin_steele264

He was a bust in Calgary for what he was making(2goals in 54 games) as an offensive threat. I remember him being Florida but I just might be thinking the team in general.

He was a bust in Calgary for what he was making(2goals in 54 games) as an offensive threat. I remember him being Florida but I just might be thinking the team in general.
- Yeti1181

Flames have a tendency to overpay Dmem.

There certainly were lots of bullpoop arguments.


I thought mostly coming from the president of his fan club.
- robin_steele264

Disagree he was making valid arguements compared to the guys that hate on him saying he's a 3 at best or number two. People could barely agree on 10 to 15 better guys let alone 30.

Flames have a tendency to overpay Dmem.
- robin_steele264

Fair enough he came with a lot of hype, he was like Jovocop.

He was a bust in Calgary for what he was making(2goals in 54 games) as an offensive threat. I remember him being Florida but I just might be thinking the team in general.
- Yeti1181

JBo has been consistently playing huge minutes, offensive production or not.

No one ever considered him a bust, just not what he was in Florida, where the Defense was JBo and filler.

It's a strange turn of events that he has all of a sudden become Elite.

Makes the Olympic Roster possibilities more interesting, though.