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systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Dec 11 @ 8:10 PM ET
$5+ should be able to get the puck deep. He needs to pick it up and if you don't agree then I am not sure what you are seeing.
- Drapz


Clarkson, like every other player on the team, is going to make mistakes. The pile on, and the need to point out ever error isn't necessary. Kadri (frank)s up twice as much every game, yet not a peep. Let's not golden boy some guys and poop pile others.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Dec 11 @ 8:10 PM ET
At the time, we needed toughness up front. Not another #2 or #3 C. Clarkson doesn't make Grabo look nice, the injuries to Bolland and Bozak do.
- systemtool

Clarkson makes everyone look nice. His contract is up there among the worst in the entire league. He's not even a bad player, I like what he brings. That contract though, ouch. I can't believe he got better offers elsewhere. It's madness.
Leeman4Gilmour
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Obviously, Reimer must be the, AB
Joined: 02.02.2010

Dec 11 @ 8:10 PM ET
grabo at 5.5 looks mighty nice by comparison doesn't it
- daeth


Even if we determined we don't want Clarkson, I still wouldn't prefer Grabovski's deal.

In the case that Clarkson is a bust, my answer to the "Clarkson or Grabo?" question would be neither.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Dec 11 @ 8:11 PM ET
Penalties -- and our terrible PK -- has paralyzed this team.
- gravyface


Something has, that's for sure.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Dec 11 @ 8:11 PM ET
Clarkson, like every other player on the team, is going to make mistakes. The pile on, and the need to point out ever error isn't necessary. Kadri (frank)s up twice as much every game, yet not a peep. Let's not golden boy some guys and poop pile others.
- systemtool

Kadri sucks too.
But he's cheaper.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Dec 11 @ 8:11 PM ET
Something has, that's for sure.
- systemtool

Carlyle
jribout
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 01.24.2011

Dec 11 @ 8:12 PM ET
At the time, we needed toughness up front. Not another #2 or #3 C. Clarkson doesn't make Grabo look nice, the injuries to Bolland and Bozak do.
- systemtool


well big guy its okay... come playoff time everyone will be saying "I told you to be patient with Clarkson his real value is the playoffs"
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Dec 11 @ 8:12 PM ET
Penalties -- and our terrible PK -- has paralyzed this team.
- gravyface



God damn Refs... .......................
Cherry--Skoal
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 03.01.2010

Dec 11 @ 8:12 PM ET
No I am dead (frank)ing serious... if you don't have the analytical skills to see that he was given the puck while in a poopty position and this made him look stupid then stick to bubble hockey
- jribout

When he was given the puck. he was on his forehand.....it was a 4-2 and he tried a low percentage back hand shot through a screen.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Dec 11 @ 8:12 PM ET
Even if we determined we don't want Clarkson, I still wouldn't prefer Grabovski's deal.

In the case that Clarkson is a bust, my answer to the "Clarkson or Grabo?" question would be neither.

- Leeman4Gilmour

I like what Grabo brings so I don't hate him at 5.5. 4.5 would've made a lot more sense though. I get why he was bought out. I don't get why they used that money just to overpay someone else.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Dec 11 @ 8:12 PM ET
Clarkson makes everyone look nice. His contract is up there among the worst in the entire league. He's not even a bad player, I like what he brings. That contract though, ouch. I can't believe he got better offers elsewhere. It's madness.
- daeth


Im really not worried about that contract. It is what is and the cap is going up. We needed that kind of player and they went out and got him. Just about all UFA contracts suck. Clarkson, if he gets his game together and on track, is just what this team needs. Hopefully he gets it going, and soon....
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Dec 11 @ 8:12 PM ET
Clarkson makes everyone look nice. His contract is up there among the worst in the entire league. He's not even a bad player, I like what he brings. That contract though, ouch. I can't believe he got better offers elsewhere. It's madness.
- daeth


Supply and demand. It's why Dion's going to a 7x7 type deal because there's nothing better out there.
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Dec 11 @ 8:13 PM ET
well big guy its okay... come playoff time everyone will be saying "I told you to be patient with Clarkson his real value is the playoffs"
- jribout



Oh...Playoff's guaranteed??..
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Dec 11 @ 8:13 PM ET
Kadri sucks too.
But he's cheaper.

- Fakepartofme

Guys who don't suck on the Leafs

JVR
Kessel
Phaneuf
Gunnarsson sometimes
??
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Dec 11 @ 8:13 PM ET
When he was given the puck. he was on his forehand.....it was a 4-2 and he tried a low percentage back hand shot through a screen.
- Cherry--Skoal

Ya it was a stupid play
Leaffan8113
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Quit listening to Dreger. He', ON
Joined: 01.10.2012

Dec 11 @ 8:14 PM ET
Clarkson, like every other player on the team, is going to make mistakes. The pile on, and the need to point out ever error isn't necessary. Kadri (frank)s up twice as much every game, yet not a peep. Let's not golden boy some guys and poop pile others.
- systemtool

Kadri makes half of what clarkson makes and has 14 more points than him.... we rip on him because he makes 5.5 and does poop all except (frank) up and yap all game.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Dec 11 @ 8:14 PM ET
Carlyle
- Fakepartofme


I don't know. Same coach, what changed? He seemed brilliant last year...so I know he can have a positive impact on this team...it can't be all him, can it?
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Dec 11 @ 8:14 PM ET
God damn Refs... .......................
- Fruitcakenipple


Nah, it's all cyclical: play passively, take dumb penalties, get scored against on a terrible PK, play passively, take dumb penalties... rinse and repeat.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Dec 11 @ 8:15 PM ET
Guys who don't suck on the Leafs

JVR
Kessel
Phaneuf
Gunnarsson sometimes
??

- daeth

Phaneuf isn't that great, kessel is weak besides his wrist shot, Gunnar is hot and cold. Jvr was and still is a great steal

I remember people on here hating the Schenn trade....I laughed at them then and still do
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Dec 11 @ 8:15 PM ET
Kadri makes half of what clarkson makes and has 14 more points than him.... we rip on him because he makes 5.5 and does poop all except (frank) up and yap all game.
- Leaffan8113


My point was about (frank) ups. If we're going to call guys out, call them all out. Clarkson does more, but I can see you feel the need to pile on, so Ill step aside and let you bash.
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Dec 11 @ 8:16 PM ET
Nah, it's all cyclical: play passively, take dumb penalties, get scored against on a terrible PK, play passively, take dumb penalties... rinse and repeat.
- gravyface



I know...just F'n with ya....
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Dec 11 @ 8:16 PM ET
Kadri makes half of what clarkson makes and has 14 more points than him.... we rip on him because he makes 5.5 and does poop all except (frank) up and yap all game.
- Leaffan8113


Clarkson has not brought the grit and edge I was hoping for. He's a decent possession guy and doesn't quit on the puck, but he is not striking fear into the opposition and I can recall him getting pancaked at least a dozen times and can't recall a single moment-changing hit he's delivered.

Maybe that's not what he was advertised as, but I could've sworn he was more physical in NJ.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Dec 11 @ 8:16 PM ET
Im really not worried about that contract. It is what is and the cap is going up. We needed that kind of player and they went out and got him. Just about all UFA contracts suck. Clarkson, if he gets his game together and on track, is just what this team needs. Hopefully he gets it going, and soon....
- systemtool

He's a 20-40 point player with a career year peaking at 46. I think people were expecting too much. He'll score at a higher rate eventually but I wouldn't expect a ton more offense.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Dec 11 @ 8:16 PM ET
Supply and demand. It's why Dion's going to a 7x7 type deal because there's nothing better out there.
- gravyface


Bingo.

joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Dec 11 @ 8:16 PM ET
Kadri makes half of what clarkson makes and has 14 more points than him.... we rip on him because he makes 5.5 and does poop all except (frank) up and yap all game.
- Leaffan8113


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