Ovie just scored his 4th of the game to tie it with 32 seconds to go.
- Twist

I wish we had a Russia game breaker.

That loss was just unacceptable. Two blown leads, five goals against...granted two of those goals got deflected off skates it's on the dmen to keep the players setting up those goals from getting those opportunities in the first place. There were times during that game where Columbus' speed really exposed how old and slow the Devils are.

I'm glad Brunner scored twice and all tonight but he took another bad penalty and you have to ask yourself...how long will it be before he comes through again the way he did tonight? Granted he played a big part in keeping the Devils in it until the end, you have to take his performance tonight with a grain of salt.

Marty looked pretty iffy tonight but I believe he is using new pads, which take some time to break in. I know it's commonly dubbed as an excuse but a few of those goals scored by Columbus tonight involved getting through Marty's fivehole.

On the bright side, Ryder has been great the last few games, and maybe Brunner getting two tonight gets him going. If those two guys can stay relatively hot we'll be in good shape offensively.
- MannySilvers

But at the expense of the goalies going cold ! This was a game that we should of won and that's the bottom line they tried and tried to give it to us till they finally said fine you don't want it we will take it.

All the time we've talked about giving the goalies some goal support, how about giving the offense some save support? Damn, tonight was all on Marty, felt like a game we should have won 4-2.
- MannySilvers

Schneider needs to start more.

Wow just wow. This team never stops amazing me. 23 shots allowed against us and 5 of them go in on a night we score 4 (frank)ing goals. I would of pulled Marty after the third.
- blizzzard

Marty needs a game or two to regroup. I give Corey the next two or three starts...although it seems when one goalie starts three consecutive games, it appears to be the magic number for the other goalie to trigger off a hissy fit about not playing

That loss was just unacceptable. Two blown leads, five goals against...granted two of those goals got deflected off skates it's on the dmen to keep the players setting up those goals from getting those opportunities in the first place. There were times during that game where Columbus' speed really exposed how old and slow the Devils are.

I'm glad Brunner scored twice and all tonight but he took another bad penalty and you have to ask yourself...how long will it be before he comes through again the way he did tonight? Granted he played a big part in keeping the Devils in it until the end, you have to take his performance tonight with a grain of salt.

Marty looked pretty iffy tonight but I believe he is using new pads, which take some time to break in. I know it's commonly dubbed as an excuse but a few of those goals scored by Columbus tonight involved getting through Marty's fivehole.
- amerk626

Then we should be using a guy who isn't having pad issues when we desperately need points. Tonight was the perfect example of our entire season. Get a chance to move back into the play off spot with all the teams we need losing at the time and we find a way to blow it. Against a team that played the night before on the road no less.

Wow just wow. This team never stops amazing me. 23 shots allowed against us and 5 of them go in on a night we score 4 (frank)ing goals. I would of pulled Marty after the third.
- blizzzard

I thought Schneider would have started the game to begin with. Probably could have been the difference in the end.

Marty needs a game or two to regroup. I give Corey the next two or three starts...although it seems when one goalie starts three consecutive games, it appears to be the magic number for the other goalie to trigger off a hissy fit about not playing
- amerk626

I don't get why Marty needs to cause a fuss. He has done everything and he needs to know he isn't better then Schneider and it is a little ridiculous that they are even making a competition out of it. At least when Cory loses 98% of the time he stood on his head in the loss. Marty has quite a few games where he has lost and looked pedestrian. If anything to avoid a problem that night when Cory complained Marty should of been the bigger guy and said you know what I hurt my leg a bit in warm there I don't think I can start. Maybe that's asking to much from a guy but asking him to constantly take pay cuts wasn't I don't know just a stupid situation all together.

Weaksauce from the defense and Marty tonight. Can't say anything else we scored just had some mental errors defensively and Marty was weak. He shouldn't have even gotten the start probably but that's PDB for you.

The past two weeks have been terrible. lose two, win two, lose three, win one, lose one (tonight). So we got two more games to lose until we win again.

I thought Schneider would have started the game to begin with. Probably could have been the difference in the end.
- rmdevil313

Corey starts tonight we win 4-2 in my opinion.

Momentum's a hell of a drug. We let Columbus gain way to much momentum when they scored. Should have been 3-0 after 1, had the opportunity to shut them down. I normally don't get supper frustrated with a loss but it's really obnoxious to have a night where our offense shows up and scores 4 and have one of our goalies who are normally stellar have a poor game and give up 5 goals on 23 shots.

Then we should be using a guy who isn't having pad issues when we desperately need points. Tonight was the perfect example of our entire season. Get a chance to move back into the play off spot with all the teams we need losing at the time and we find a way to blow it. Against a team that played the night before on the road no less.
- blizzzard

I really don't want to say it but with the middle of the season quickly approaching, we might be seeing this team playing to their best of their ability... a .500 hockey team. I'd like to think that when Clowe returns, it'll add some stability to the lineup's forwards. Same with Carter returning. At least then we'll have four lines to roll, the system that PDB likes to implement. Once this team returns to full health, maybe we'll see a little more consistency...maybe.

I thought Schneider would have started the game to begin with. Probably could have been the difference in the end.
- rmdevil313

I figured cause Marty won that he would get this one but I agree had it been Schneider he would of got this one and Marty could of had the game against the Pens on the road and Schneider back at home but maybe it's best Cory gets the Pens since they are pretty sore on that back end.

Marty needs a game or two to regroup. I give Corey the next two or three starts...although it seems when one goalie starts three consecutive games, it appears to be the magic number for the other goalie to trigger off a hissy fit about not playing
- amerk626

Since Schneids is the "goalie of the future" and Marty hasn't exactly been standing on his head, I'd hope PDB has the sack to tell Marty to suck it up & know his role. Schneids complained about playing time a week or two ago, but Marty has been known to complain as well. It's on the staff to take control, set roles & say "I'm not here to stroke your ego, you're old & you're the backup barring injury. End of discussion. If you're not happy we'll revisit this come trade deadline week".

Unfortunately, PDB's demeanor and apathy in pressers makes me think he's a pushover. Couple that with Lou having Marty's Richard in his mouth & I think most coaches would be reluctant to butt heads with Marty fearing the unemployment line.

I'm not fond of the nebulous crease situation. I think guys need set roles & thrive when they know their role & assignments.

I'm sure some would disagree.

Any bets on Ovechkin scoring in the shootout?

I don't get why Marty needs to cause a fuss. He has done everything and he needs to know he isn't better then Schneider and it is a little ridiculous that they are even making a competition out of it. At least when Cory loses 98% of the time he stood on his head in the loss. Marty has quite a few games where he has lost and looked pedestrian. If anything to avoid a problem that night when Cory complained Marty should of been the bigger guy and said you know what I hurt my leg a bit in warm there I don't think I can start. Maybe that's asking to much from a guy but asking him to constantly take pay cuts wasn't I don't know just a stupid situation all together.
- blizzzard

It isn't on Marty to give Cory starts blame Pete.

I really don't want to say it but with the middle of the season quickly approaching, we might be seeing this team playing to their best of their ability... a .500 hockey team. I'd like to think that when Clowe returns, it'll add some stability to the lineup's forwards. Same with Carter returning. At least then we'll have four lines to roll, the system that PDB likes to implement. Once this team returns to full health, maybe we'll see a little more consistency...maybe.
- amerk626

I agree with that which is why I don't get why Lou has been sitting so quiet instead getting a jump on a move to put us a head before the deadline. The only thing I can think of is the amount of injuries we have right now but some of them seem like they are more so he can play the roster he wants and not make his captain look bad by trading him or sending him to the minors. Also if anyone believes the Kovy conspiracy and that Lou would do that that you bet your ass he would find was to manipulate injuries to save the team a little face like the Clowe and Salvador ones. Also do we have the worst team doctors or something? They can't ever seem to figure out if a guy will be out a few days ( Larsson ) or almost a month.

I don't get why Marty needs to cause a fuss. He has done everything and he needs to know he isn't better then Schneider and it is a little ridiculous that they are even making a competition out of it. At least when Cory loses 98% of the time he stood on his head in the loss. Marty has quite a few games where he has lost and looked pedestrian. If anything to avoid a problem that night when Cory complained Marty should of been the bigger guy and said you know what I hurt my leg a bit in warm there I don't think I can start. Maybe that's asking to much from a guy but asking him to constantly take pay cuts wasn't I don't know just a stupid situation all together.
- blizzzard

It's just how Marty is. He has this God complex and an overdeveloped sense of self-entitlement. Granted he technically does deserve this but the fact he utilizes it leaves a lot to be said about him and his ego.

Nonetheless, Marty has been remarkable for this team over the past 5, 6 weeks with the way he's played and just recently he's looked human like he was tonight. I'm 95% certain Schneider will start at least two out of the next three. If not...then I cannot wait to witness the backlash from fans on boards like this and TG's F&I blog. Some of the fans on there should not have computer access between the months of October and April.

This IS a .500 hockey team. While everyone was praising the "depth" of the offseason signings I said this was a .500 club & some people got poopty about it.

Not here to say I told you so because they very well could finish above .500 as below it, but I just don't see how some people think this is a playoff team.

I know Lou thinks it is, but I think that's because he's senile.

This team juat doesn't have the "it" factor, no heart & emotion, no urgency unless it's against the Rags. Which is nice & all, but not good enough.

Need to get younger & faster, more creative upfront.

It isn't on Marty to give Cory starts blame Pete.
- NickA

No it's not so I understand it but he isn't helping by some of the things he has said and from someone who has been the ultimate team player through out the years it would just be something you wouldn't put it past him to do it because he is about the good of the team. Just seems a little different now as he wants to fight to be a starter at the age of 41. Hopefully his tune changes after this season or if it doesn't that he tells Lou so we can move him at the deadline and he can sign else where after this season to challenge to be number 1. I just strongly question whether he is ready to except for sure back up duties or if he will want to try and be a number one goalie on another team.

I mean how we don't even come away with a point. just over a minute left. That is when you need your goalie to come up big in crunch times like that.

It's just how Marty is. He has this God complex and an overdeveloped sense of self-entitlement. Granted he technically does deserve this but the fact he utilizes it leaves a lot to be said about him and his ego.

Nonetheless, Marty has been remarkable for this team over the past 5, 6 weeks with the way he's played and just recently he's looked human like he was tonight. I'm 95% certain Schneider will start at least two out of the next three. If not...then I cannot wait to witness the backlash from fans on boards like this and TG's F&I blog. Some of the fans on there should not have computer access between the months of October and April.
- amerk626

I hope he doesn't cool of to much as I am in favor of getting everything we can out of him come deadline time. Kill to birds with one stone hopefully he doesn't pull an Iggy and screw us from getting a better return but he has that right to. We get pieces to build the future on and get rid of the goalie controversy that isn't helping us in the long run

Marty won't be a backup. Not quietly anyway. He will either retire or fight. It's in his nature.

You can't play well enough to be considered by some to be the best of all time & end up being content as a backup for a couple years at the tail end of your career just slowly padding stats & being thankful for a start here or there. He wants to be a #1 guy, and when that desire is gone he'll hang them up. He's too competitive & too much of an ego. He wants to be a #1 now & probably will be for another couple years.

I hope he doesn't cool of to much as I am in favor of getting everything we can out of him come deadline time. Kill to birds with one stone hopefully he doesn't pull an Iggy and screw us from getting a better return but he has that right to. We get pieces to build the future on and get rid of the goalie controversy that isn't helping us in the long run
- blizzzard

As long we the Devils are somewhat in the playoff race, Marty isn't going anywhere. The demand for goaltenders right now is low, there are much better options available other than Marty (Miller), and ultimately, I don't think Lou has the balls to trade the greatest success story of his career. If he wants to come back this offseason though, I'm sure that's a different story but as far as a trade goes, I can't see it happening. The Devils are at the cap ceiling and don't have many tradable assets that'll get this team a return to directly address their needs. If anything, Lou will probably make an acquisition similar to D'Agostini or Sullivan. One of those annoying trades for a depth player that Lou hopes will be a diamond in the rough find, only to be a subpar rental.

As long we the Devils are somewhat in the playoff race, Marty isn't going anywhere. The demand for goaltenders right now is low, there are much better options available other than Marty (Miller), and ultimately, I don't think Lou has the balls to trade the greatest success story of his career. If he wants to come back this offseason though, I'm sure that's a different story but as far as a trade goes, I can't see it happening. The Devils are at the cap ceiling and don't have many tradable assets that'll get this team a return to directly address their needs. If anything, Lou will probably make an acquisition similar to D'Agostini or Sullivan. One of those annoying trades for a depth player that Lou hopes will be a diamond in the rough find, only to be a subpar rental.
- amerk626

Dreger and a few others said the Pens would have interest in Marty if we where to look to go the route at the deadline and He has a 4+ salary so it would be shedding cap if it could be done for a decent pick or something. Not saying it will come to it but if it does I think it's a good idea. Not saying give him away for free but if you get offered anything decent I would take it. Miller isn't going to get anything of value in a trade because he is to picky on his demands of where to play so all the teams who would move something good won't because he won't resign there and they don't want to give up a first plus a good prospect for 20 games of a guy.