Lets make it say equal talent, Kunitz type person. Then no, no statue.
Also if Boychuk hit Crosby like that you can bet your ass that every single non-Bruin fan and even some Bruins fans would lose their poop and call for his head, his familes head and the NHL to ban body checking. Now don't kid yourself Orpik would have gone right after Johnny too.
Differenc eis Johnny would have fought him right there.
Not exactly a fair comparrison now is it.
Also I'm not a fan of the huge unnecessary open ice hits when player has no chance to protect himself. Spoken as a NHL fan not just a Bruins fan.
- Thornton22

Good thing you don't play then. It's a part of the game. Erickson missed the pass. Orpik hit him clean. Big whoop. It's legal and hard nosed. Then he's required to drop his gloves and sit 5 minutes for it? That's a joke. If he boarded somebody, then fine. If it's illegal at all, then fine. But no matter what the bit is it doesn't garner a slew foot and then punches/elbows/forearm shivers on the ice.

I want the staged fights out and even more importantly I want a penalty called on a player for going after a player who delivered a clean check. Players know what's clean. That ought to be the code. Actually...no...that ought to be the rule. If the NHL is so concerned about eliminating fighting they'll do it.

"unnecessary to crush someone like that" sounds like complaining about a hard hit, but if not then ok.
- nbartley9

Mentioning that a huge open ice hit was unnecessary is complaining?
Are you complaining about my post that appeared as complaining?
Sounds like you are.
Next....

Lets make it say equal talent, Kunitz type person. Then no, no statue.
Also if Boychuk hit Crosby like that you can bet your ass that every single non-Bruin fan and even some Bruins fans would lose their poop and call for his head, his familes head and the NHL to ban body checking. Now don't kid yourself Orpik would have gone right after Johnny too.
Differenc eis Johnny would have fought him right there.
Not exactly a fair comparrison now is it.
Also I'm not a fan of the huge unnecessary open ice hits when player has no chance to protect himself. Spoken as a NHL fan not just a Bruins fan.
- Thornton22

Total BS. Simply not true. Sid still gets hit. Some really big hits since he returned to health. I have yet to see Tanner Glass or Derek Engellend lose their mind and assault the guy that hit him.

Mentioning that a huge open ice hit was unnecessary is complaining?
Are you complaining about my post that appeared as complaining?
Sounds like you are.
Next....
- Thornton22

You complained about an open ice clean hit, because it was to hard. Golf and Tennis are found a few channels up just keep clicking. I seriously have never heard a hockey fan complain because hits were too hard. hahah wow. You maybe in the right thread though, toughness is frowned upon around these parts.

Meetings are prolonging it, Neal's accidental contact suspension was an easy over the phone way to pacify Pens haters.
- nbartley9

Do you happen to know if games missed while awaiting his hearing are retroactively applied to whatever suspension he gets?

Just think, if Loui Eriksson would have kept his head up and knew who was around him, none of this mess would have happened.

Good thing you don't play then. It's a part of the game. Erickson missed the pass. Orpik hit him clean. Big whoop. It's legal and hard nosed. Then he's required to drop his gloves and sit 5 minutes for it? That's a joke. If he boarded somebody, then fine. If it's illegal at all, then fine. But no matter what the bit is it doesn't garner a slew foot and then punches/elbows/forearm shivers on the ice.
- HopintheCordoba

You remember when Crosby admired his pass n got rocked by Steckel?
Re-read your above statement, you must have been fine with that hit too.
Slew foot and holding him up is not really a slew foot now is it?
Thornton crossed the line, I've always said he did.
How the hell that knocked out Orpik is beyond me. Though Orpik has recently said he doesn't remember anyhting after the national anthem.
Weird that the Eriksson hit was shortly after that, maybe Orpik caused his own concussion when he checked Loui, wouldn't that be ironic.

Do you happen to know if games missed while awaiting his hearing are retroactively applied to whatever suspension he gets?
- Rawdog9755

Yes, they are. John Scott missed a couple of games while waiting for his hearing, and they counted towards the suspension.

Do you happen to know if games missed while awaiting his hearing are retroactively applied to whatever suspension he gets?
- Rawdog9755

Yes they are, Thornton will have served 2 games by tonight.

Yes, they are. John Scott missed a couple of games while waiting for his hearing, and they counted towards the suspension.
- rival22

Hey we agree on something!

Do you happen to know if games missed while awaiting his hearing are retroactively applied to whatever suspension he gets?
- Rawdog9755

They will be, yes.

It might be the unpopular opinion here, but a few days removed from it, I don't see Thornton getting more than 8-10 games, nor should he.

This play has the stretcher effect.... If you just look at what Thornton does, he pulls Orpik down from behind onto his butt, then gives him two gloved punches. We've seen a ton worse in this sport... If Orpik comes out of the scrum with a broken nose, us Pens fans are calling for Thornton's head, but it doesn't go much further. We've seen much harder punches (with and without gloves) cause little or no injury. It just happened to catch Orpik in the right spot.

But you can't deny Orpik getting knocked out is what gets this outrage to the level it's at now.

People are complaining that the NHL punishes too much based on injury, but then are calling for 20+ games for Thornton. You can't have it both ways. If there is no injury, there is very little outrage (and very little suspension if any). Just another cement head hockey player taking some liberties against another player.

What Thornton did has no place in this game, and the idea that Orpik has to "answer" for what everyone outside of Boston views as a clean hit, is a complete joke. But the injury makes this into a bigger controversy than it probably should be.

*ducks*
- rival22

I don't want to punish the result (injury). I want to punish the ACT, which was a clear intent to injure, and done in the moist gutless way possible. My outrage would be just as strong injury or no.

I'll portect ya.
Very well said, cleanish hit but unnecessary to crush someone like that.
Refs let to much go and Thornton lost his temper, rightfully so. Just did it the wrong way.
- Thornton22

If Chara had laid that hit on Dupuis, I'm betting you wouldn't have called it unnecessary, you would have been applauding it as a tone setting hit at the beginning of the game, which is what it was.

You remember when Crosby admired his pass n got rocked by Steckel?
Re-read your above statement, you must have been fine with that hit too.
Slew foot and holding him up is not really a slew foot now is it?
Thornton crossed the line, I've always said he did.
How the hell that knocked out Orpik is beyond me. Though Orpik has recently said he doesn't remember anyhting after the national anthem.
Weird that the Eriksson hit was shortly after that, maybe Orpik caused his own concussion when he checked Loui, wouldn't that be ironic.
- Thornton22

Yea, it still is a slew foot. This isnt a situation where 2 guys are toe-toe and one gets knocked out in a fight while the other guy holds his jersey to keep him from crumpling to the ice(similar to Asham vs Beagle). When you put your skate behind another guys skate and pull backwards on him with the sole intent of taking him off balance and to the ice it is a slew foot. I dont care if Thornton covered the ice behind Orpik in beanie babies to soften the blow, he still slew footed him.

This board is like the announcers last night during the pregame show. They kept saying that everyone needs to make their point about the Boston/Pittsburgh game but after that get over it. Yet they continued to complain about it, interview people about it, then say they aren't going to dwell on it.....then they would talk about it some more.

This board is like the announcers last night during the pregame show. They kept saying that everyone needs to make their point about the Boston/Pittsburgh game but after that get over it. Yet they continued to complain about it, interview people about it, then say they aren't going to dwell on it.....then they would talk about it some more.
- kgrpitt

Picked up any more watches or dates from the fossil store recently?

This board is like the announcers last night during the pregame show. They kept saying that everyone needs to make their point about the Boston/Pittsburgh game but after that get over it. Yet they continued to complain about it, interview people about it, then say they aren't going to dwell on it.....then they would talk about it some more.
- kgrpitt

This will continue until the suspension is announced.

This board is like the announcers last night during the pregame show. They kept saying that everyone needs to make their point about the Boston/Pittsburgh game but after that get over it. Yet they continued to complain about it, interview people about it, then say they aren't going to dwell on it.....then they would talk about it some more.
- kgrpitt

You're right


Let's talk about Olli Maatta... The kid had another great game last night.

I was watching him on the PK, and he has great vision and anticipation. There were a couple of sequences where the puck was on the far side, and he was in the slot. The point man snuck down for a back door play, and without even looking, Maatta would subtly change his position, or move his stick back to take away that lane. He must have either caught him out of the corner of his eye, or just felt that the play was going there, but he was all over it.

You gotta look for silver linings with all of these injuries, and with Scuderi, Martin and now Orpik out, Maatta is really getting some great ice time.



Also, Harry Z was sent back down today... Not sure why they couldn't have stuffed Chris Conner into an equipment bag and sent him down too.

This board is like the announcers last night during the pregame show. They kept saying that everyone needs to make their point about the Boston/Pittsburgh game but after that get over it. Yet they continued to complain about it, interview people about it, then say they aren't going to dwell on it.....then they would talk about it some more.
- kgrpitt

There really isn't much else to talk about.

Picked up any more watches or dates from the fossil store recently?
- Rawdog9755

Nope, I moved on to Bonefish Grill.....decent food, better bartenders.

Apparently, the others knew me at fossil. haha

You're right


Let's talk about Olli Maatta... The kid had another great game last night.

I was watching him on the PK, and he has great vision and anticipation. There were a couple of sequences where the puck was on the far side, and he was in the slot. The point man snuck down for a back door play, and without even looking, Maatta would subtly change his position, or move his stick back to take away that lane. He must have either caught him out of the corner of his eye, or just felt that the play was going there, but he was all over it.

You gotta look for silver linings with all of these injuries, and with Scuderi, Martin and now Orpik out, Maatta is really getting some great ice time.

Also, Harry Z was sent back down today... Not sure why they couldn't have stuffed Chris Conner into an equipment bag and sent him down too.
- rival22

Yeah Maatta had a strong game. I thought Despres has played well since being called up as well. They show flashes of what they are capable of which is an excellent sign for the penguins future. I just hope they continue to grow and don't hit a wall.

Yes they are, Thornton will have served 2 games by tonight.
- Thornton22

I can't agree with anything you said. First a slew foot is a slew foot and gives you a very unfair advantage when fighting someone especially if used from behind on an unsuspecting opponent. Gloved or not gloved is not of any importance. You punched a man in the face after you pulled him down from behind. That is what little chump gang members do. There is no comparison between Orpik approaching boychuk if he hit Kunitz. Proper comparison would be Engelland. Orpik plays 20+ minutes a night against other teams top players why would he fight and take himself off the ice for 5 minutes? If it were a 7-1 blowout I'd agree Orpiks hit would have been unecessary. However to begin a game and set a tone I think it was completely appropriate and legal.

If Chara had laid that hit on Dupuis, I'm betting you wouldn't have called it unnecessary, you would have been applauding it as a tone setting hit at the beginning of the game, which is what it was.
- Emperor Filonius

I believe I said somewhere up the page, that I'm not a fan of huge unnecessary open ice hits.
If this is before Dupis slashed Kelly then I would have said something to the effect of holy christ what a hit, I hope he is ok.
Then upon watching replay I may say wtf was Chara thiniking?, time for the penalty box. I call it as I see it.
If this was after Dupis slash, I would have said good, (frank) him! Serves him right.

Remember this is a borderline legal hit, given your perspective. Grey area for me.

Nope, I moved on to Bonefish Grill.....decent food, better bartenders.
- kgrpitt

We will need to see a menu to pick out a name for her. Unless we're just going to name her after a drink. Hairy Navel?

I can't agree with anything you said. First a slew foot is a slew foot and gives you a very unfair advantage when fighting someone especially if used from behind on an unsuspecting opponent. Gloved or not gloved is not of any importance. You punched a man in the face after you pulled him down from behind. That is what little chump gang members do. There is no comparison between Orpik approaching boychuk if he hit Kunitz. Proper comparison would be Engelland. Orpik plays 20+ minutes a night against other teams top players why would he fight and take himself off the ice for 5 minutes? If it were a 7-1 blowout I'd agree Orpiks hit would have been unecessary. However to begin a game and set a tone I think it was completely appropriate and legal.
- dbell646

Johhny Rocket is top four defenceman too. Similar minutes.
Watch as many games as you can this week. Watch all the fights and tell me how many guys get punched in the face after they are taken to the ice. The amount is shocking. I'm not condoing it, I'm pointing out it isnt as uncommon as one would think.