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PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 10 @ 2:41 PM ET
My secret dream is that both Hartnell and Streit lift the Stanley Cup as players on the Philadelphia Flyers.
- jmatchett383


If the team won a cup with Streit, would the crowd boo when he lifted it?
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Dec 10 @ 2:45 PM ET
If the team won a cup with Streit, would the crowd boo when he lifted it?
- PhillySportsGuy

we need whatever your smokin
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Dec 10 @ 2:47 PM ET
Everyone keeps focusing on these ancillary players.

To me, the main problem with this team right now is the play of Giroux, Voracek, and Hartnell.

If they were even playing average as a group, we would be a winning team.

Giroux is supposed to be the guy, and his upcoming contract says as much. When you are the "guy", it shouldn't matter who you are matched up against. YOU are the one who is supposed to elevate the games of the players you play with, not the other way around. YOU are the one who is supposed to go out there and produce when it counts. I don't care if you are leading the team in points, with this team that is like winning the hundred yard dash at the Special Olympics consolation race.

It is time for Giroux to start producing game winning goals and points. There is no if and or buts. Do it, and do it consistently, or you ARE a fraud making 8.25 million a year for the next 7 years.

Rant over.

- MBFlyerfan

Snider would be smart to trade him...look what we got for frick and frack
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Dec 10 @ 2:59 PM ET


1. Claude Giroux
2. Scott Hartnell
3. Mark Streit
4. Jakob Voracek
5. Luke Schenn

Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 10 @ 3:01 PM ET
1. Claude Giroux
2. Scott Hartnell
3. Mark Streit
4. Jakob Voracek
5. Luke Schenn

- Pixote Andolini


Five guys who have never been in my kitchen.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Dec 10 @ 3:05 PM ET
Five guys who have never been in my kitchen.
- Scoob

chop suey
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 10 @ 3:08 PM ET
1. Claude Giroux
2. Scott Hartnell
3. Mark Streit
4. Jakob Voracek
5. Luke Schenn

- Pixote Andolini


The answer to "What 4 Canadians and 1 Czech does it take to change a lightbulb?"
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 10 @ 3:09 PM ET
chop suey
- vejim




Five Guys that has never been in my kitchen.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Dec 10 @ 3:11 PM ET
Five guys who have never been in my kitchen.
- Scoob

yeah - it's confirmed I have a dirty mind...
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Dec 10 @ 3:11 PM ET
Do it, and do it consistently, or you ARE a fraud making 8.25 million a year for the next 7 years.
- MBFlyerfan


8 years. Holmgren was a dummy for extending him before seeing how this season played out.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 10 @ 3:13 PM ET


Five Guys that has never been in my kitchen.

- Scoob


I'm really angry about the Five Guys that closed in Somers Point.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 10 @ 3:14 PM ET
8 years. Holmgren was a dummy for extending him before seeing how this season played out.
- Feanor


Not really. If Giroux had a season like 10-11, he would have gotten the biggest contract in NHL history.

Edit: He should have waited on Hartnell though.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 10 @ 3:16 PM ET
The answer to "What 4 Canadians and 1 Czech does it take to change a lightbulb?"
- jmatchett383


Think about the first person who made that light bulb joke? I wonder if they knew they'd struck gold.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Dec 10 @ 3:18 PM ET
Not really. If Giroux had a season like 10-11, he would have gotten the biggest contract in NHL history.

Edit: He should have waited on Hartnell though.

- PhillySportsGuy


He only scored 76 points in 10-11. But you likely mean his 93 point 11-12 season. If had scored at that pace this year then he would be worth 8 years, $8.3 million. But he would have to score at 1.5 PPG for the rest of the season so he's not going to get close.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 10 @ 3:21 PM ET
I'm really angry about the Five Guys that closed in Somers Point.
- PhillySportsGuy


I've never been to or had one.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Dec 10 @ 3:23 PM ET
8 years. Holmgren was a dummy for extending him before seeing how this season played out.
- Feanor



Ugh. For that amount of money there should be 90 points GUARANTEED, year in a and year out.

This guy we got now isn't even in the top 175 for ES points.

I don't want to hear about his matchups, or his linemates, or anything other than, you want to be paid like an ELITE level player in this league, start producing like one.....and start producing when it matters.

Stop playing like Zherdev.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 10 @ 3:23 PM ET
He only scored 76 points in 10-11. But you likely mean his 93 point 11-12 season. If had scored at that pace this year then he would be worth 8 years, $8.3 million. But he would have to score at 1.5 PPG for the rest of the season so he's not going to get close.
- Feanor


He would be worth more than his next deal if he had a 93 point season. He would break the bank. It's irrelevant because he won't be getting 93 points this year.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 10 @ 3:24 PM ET
Think about the first person who made that light bulb joke? I wonder if they knew they'd struck gold.
- PhillySportsGuy


Some light researching dates back to the 60s, with the original being:

Q. How many Polacks does it take to change a light bulb?
A. Three—one to hold the light bulb and two (the number varies) to turn the ladder.

Apparently, it was actually started by the Polish.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Dec 10 @ 3:25 PM ET
Five guys who have never been in my kitchen.
- Scoob

Ha! Scoob got it exactly right.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 10 @ 3:26 PM ET
Some light researching dates back to the 60s, with the original being:

Q. How many Polacks does it take to change a light bulb?
A. Three—one to hold the light bulb and two (the number varies) to turn the ladder.

Apparently, it was actually started by the Polish.

- jmatchett383


Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Dec 10 @ 3:27 PM ET
He would be worth more than his next deal if he had a 93 point season. He would break the bank. It's irrelevant because he won't be getting 93 points this year.
- PhillySportsGuy


He wouldn't have got near Malkin money and Malkin scored 109 points in 75 games in his last full season, so you'll have to define break the bank.

If a player likes Giroux wants the security of a long term deal a year in advance then Homer needs to insist on them taking less money. Otherwise it would be smart to wait until they have continued to keep performing before signing a massive deal, especially when the player is still an RFA.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Dec 10 @ 3:28 PM ET
Ugh. For that amount of money there should be 90 points GUARANTEED, year in a and year out.

This guy we got now isn't even in the top 175 for ES points.

I don't want to hear about his matchups, or his linemates, or anything other than, you want to be paid like an ELITE level player in this league, start producing like one.....and start producing when it matters.

Stop playing like Zherdev.

- MBFlyerfan


ELITE players make others around them better. I have to agree with your post. Nicely done.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Dec 10 @ 3:28 PM ET
SO it's official...

the thread's turned on Giroux.

JW98FlyerFan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.02.2013

Dec 10 @ 3:29 PM ET
He only scored 76 points in 10-11. But you likely mean his 93 point 11-12 season. If had scored at that pace this year then he would be worth 8 years, $8.3 million. But he would have to score at 1.5 PPG for the rest of the season so he's not going to get close.
- Feanor

He is pacing himself...he isn't making that money yet, he won't put up the 100 points per year until next year...
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 10 @ 3:31 PM ET
He is pacing himself...he isn't making that money yet, he won't put up the 100 points per year until next year...
- JW98FlyerFan


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