It would have ccomplished nothing except make me feel good for about five minutes...maybe ten.
- Ogilthorpe2

Me, too; I would have loved it. But there's no way it would change the douche's behavior one bit. He would actually believe it means he's being effective.

As he should...... Because the ol hidden secret here is.......Bollig's kind of a awful fighter. He rarely wins. He won his last won against Barch and celebrated like holy hell because it's been so long. On the circus trip McGratton handed him his head. Bollig's come a long way from last year. I suggest he continue on improving those skills, because his fighting skills, as much as the meathead crowd might like it....well, Day ain't uh so good.
- yahoodi

Can't disagree with you more, check out hockeyfights.com...Bollig rarely loses fights. The guy boxes in the offseason for God's sakes, you can check out his training videos. And let's be honest, McGratten has only lost like 1 fight ever to Colton Orr and is a freak of nature. He is not a good measuring stick for anyone.

Ok, im assuming the coach wants him to hit people (checking-wise), but he doesnt do that very much. Along with the rest of the team. I know its all about defense and puck possession and so on, but is there NO place in the game for checking on this team? Is there no evidence that body checks help win games? Not just Bollig, id like to see the whole team check more. Not by getting out of position to do so, but is it really that crazy to think body checks can be helpful to win games occasionally?
- BlazinMike

A very understandable position - I feel that way lots of times. But I also like wins and Stanley Cups; they're rare in these parts.

Ok, im assuming the coach wants him to hit people (checking-wise), but he doesnt do that very much. Along with the rest of the team. I know its all about defense and puck possession and so on, but is there NO place in the game for checking on this team? Is there no evidence that body checks help win games? Not just Bollig, id like to see the whole team check more. Not by getting out of position to do so, but is it really that crazy to think body checks can be helpful to win games occasionally?
- BlazinMike

As we have said, hit stats can be deceptive, but it seems that Bollig generally is credited with two or three hits per game - not bad for usually less than 10 minutes on the ice.

A very understandable position - I feel that way lots of times. But I also like wins and Stanley Cups; they're rare in these parts.
- mohel

I know. The wins just dont FEEL as good if the Hawks get beat up in the process without sticking up for themselves though.

I know.
- BlazinMike The wins just dont FEEL as good if the Hawks get beat up in the process without sticking up for themselves though.

The last 16 wins of last season felt pretty good, even if here was little red ass displayed.

The last 16 wins of last season felt pretty good, even if here was little red ass displayed.
- Ogilthorpe2

Agreed

The last 16 wins of last season felt pretty good, even if here was little red ass displayed.
- Ogilthorpe2

This was GREAT

Shaw vs Mashinter in the playoffs in junior

http://www.hockeyfights.com/fights/63952

What's he got to lose?

If Roussel gets suspended, he's relatively easily replaceable: extracted to a full season, 15 goals, 30 points - znc 2+ penalty minutes per game.

Dallas has nothing to lose by letting him go after people.
- StLBravesFan

Come on boys, this obsession with Roussel. He is doing what Shaw does. Similar game. Right now a little more edgy, but for goodness sake, I see all this macho red ass request, then when you see a guy who plays on that edge, creating a niche for himself...people whine about him?

Sorry guys, which is it? I know he is not on OUR team, but he is the exact Steve Ott type that so many get on their knees for.

Come on boys, this obsession with Roussel. He is doing what Shaw does. Similar game. Right now a little more edgy, but for goodness sake, I see all this macho red ass request, then when you see a guy who plays on that edge, creating a niche for himself...people whine about him?

Sorry guys, which is it? I know he is not on OUR team, but he is the exact Steve Ott type that so many get on their knees for.
- TrueGrit

I wouldnt mind Roussell on the Hawks roster...

I really thought, with that lead, Bollig might get to the douche. He needs to be addressed by someone. Great step up by Morin and Versteeg - that is team toughness.

Loved Curt Fraser. They should replace Ted Dent with him. Would have been interested in the Stars announcers take on Rousel's garbage. Fraser was trying to calm him down. Where's Ruff? Used to seeing more discipline from his teams. As I said, the Stars on the bench looked like they were tired of Rousel - certainly weren't interested in protecting him. Why would they after he slew foots and elbows players all game long? I'm sure Gillis would love to have him back in VC.

That was definitely Raanta's most "settled" game. Only a few nervous moments. He shows some real poise when screened. Attach that stick to his hand and he may be a real keeper. Head and shoulders better than the Bulin we have seen this year.
- steelhead

Love the Fraser suggestion and the points on The Eel are well noted

As he should...... Because the ol hidden secret here is.......Bollig's kind of a awful fighter. He rarely wins. He won his last won against Barch and celebrated like holy hell because it's been so long. On the circus trip McGratton handed him his head. Bollig's come a long way from last year. I suggest he continue on improving those skills, because his fighting skills, as much as the meathead crowd might like it....well, Day ain't uh so good.
- yahoodi

Sorry, you are wrong. Bollig is not a heavy weight. He does not have the reach to fight a McGratton or Scott but he ranks up there as a fighter. Strong uppercut and he knows how to grapple. I think he was ranked by players among the top 3 fighters in the AHL in 09 or 10.

No offense, but you Committed Indian types break out "meathead" whenever you decide you know more than everyone else. Really unoriginal. Some of us have watched fighting play a role for a long time and still see it as part of the game. That opinion happens to be shared by most NHL players. Why not just agree to disagree?

Shaw vs Mashinter in the playoffs in junior

http://www.hockeyfights.com/fights/63952
- philco28

Ouch! Shaw is a gamer but that was one he should have avoided.

Need to see a Mash, Bollig, Shaw line for a Blues game before year end.

Meatheads of the world UNITE!

From one douche to another; tonight we've got Downie. Downie is a big fan of the sneak-up-and-blow-'em-up style of hitting. No doubt Rousell is a cacksucker, but I think Downie is a little more dangerous - toward the Torres style of knob-smoking.

Come on boys, this obsession with Roussel. He is doing what Shaw does. Similar game. Right now a little more edgy, but for goodness sake, I see all this macho red ass request, then when you see a guy who plays on that edge, creating a niche for himself...people whine about him?

Sorry guys, which is it? I know he is not on OUR team, but he is the exact Steve Ott type that so many get on their knees for.
- TrueGrit

Nope. Rousell is not a Shaw. Shaw knows the line and rarely crosses it. Players like Burrows and Roussell are like Claude Lemieux - they know the line and deliberately cross it because they do not respect other players.

You have agitators like Gallagher, Rinaldo and Shaw - more mouth and clean hits. Then you have the Roussels, Burrows, Marchands and Cookes (though M and C have cleaned it up some).

From one douche to another; tonight we've got Downie. Downie is a big fan of the sneak-up-and-blow-'em-up style of hitting. No doubt Rousell is a cacksucker, but I think Downie is a little more dangerous - toward the Torres style of knob-smoking.
- mohel

Agree with this totally. I used to like Downie for some reason, but after looking into his career more ive grown to hate him.

From one douche to another; tonight we've got Downie. Downie is a big fan of the sneak-up-and-blow-'em-up style of hitting. No doubt Rousell is a cacksucker, but I think Downie is a little more dangerous - toward the Torres style of knob-smoking.
- mohel

Good point. Downie has toned it down some since the trade. The pre-injury Downie would definitely be in the Rousell class.

Nope. Rousell is not a Shaw. Shaw knows the line and rarely crosses it. Players like Burrows and Roussell are like Claude Lemieux - they know the line and deliberately cross it because they do not respect other players.

You have agitators like Gallagher, Rinaldo and Shaw - more mouth and clean hits. Then you have the Roussels, Burrows, Marchands and Cookes (though M and C have cleaned it up some).
- steelhead

Rinaldo? Really. Marchand and Cooke?

There is not much of a difference between the Shaw and Rousell. Both know they have to agitate and be aggressive or they are dime a dozen guys. Those are facts....

As I reread...Gallagher? You my friend are all over the map.

My original statement stands.

From one douche to another; tonight we've got Downie. Downie is a big fan of the sneak-up-and-blow-'em-up style of hitting. No doubt Rousell is a cacksucker, but I think Downie is a little more dangerous - toward the Torres style of knob-smoking.
- mohel

We might as well cancel the game. Jeez fellas this is like the playground. Lets post pages of posts about who scares us most. Who gives a crap!

Everyone on skates with a stick is dangerous.

The UC will be called the UC for another 29 years, it was announced today.

We might as well cancel the game. Jeez fellas this is like the playground. Lets post pages of posts about who scares us most. Who gives a crap!

Everyone on skates with a stick is dangerous.
- TrueGrit

I'm not too worried about it - see my earlier posts the past few days on Rousell and how to respond. Now, for you bolded quote....surely you don't think Kane and Torres are equally dangerous (physically) to play against?

Ouch! Shaw is a gamer but that was one he should have avoided.

Need to see a Mash, Bollig, Shaw line for a Blues game before year end.

Meatheads of the world UNITE!
- steelhead

Gotta love Shaw though....KID IS PHUCK'N FEARLESS

I'm not too worried about it - see my earlier posts the past few days on Rousell and how to respond. Now, for you bolded quote....surely you don't think Kane and Torres are equally dangerous (physically) to play against?
- mohel

Not necessarily directed at you, it is just this "UH OH!" tone every game worrying about some guy. Thank God players don't think that way. All players understand the risks they take each game and are equally vulnerable to hard hits and collisions with every player on the ice.

Obviously some guys are more physical than others, but if you are a player, you type cast that guy and expect certain things out of them. You don't sit up nights worrying about it, or stare around on the ice like a paranoid little girl.

I am equally shocked that so many here are shocked that Dallas wants its team to play with grit, since they are out talented most nights of the week. Are they supposed to be nice guys and let people walk all over them. When I play against younger faster players, I do my best to slow them down and let them know I am around. Anything I can do to get them off their game. That is just competition.

The blackhawks can care less about running around and racking up body checks, they rack up goals. And they win lots of game.

Not necessarily directed at you, it is just this "UH OH!" tone every game worrying about some guy. Thank God players don't think that way. All players understand the risks they take each game and are equally vulnerable to hard hits and collisions with every player on the ice.

Obviously some guys are more physical than others, but if you are a player, you type cast that guy and expect certain things out of them. You don't sit up nights worrying about it, or stare around on the ice like a paranoid little girl.

I am equally shocked that so many here are shocked that Dallas wants its team to play with grit, since they are out talented most nights of the week. Are they supposed to be nice guys and let people walk all over them. When I play against younger faster players, I do my best to slow them down and let them know I am around. Anything I can do to get them off their game. That is just competition.

The blackhawks can care less about running around and racking up body checks, they rack up goals. And they win lots of game.
- TrueGrit

Fully agree.