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Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 9 @ 1:36 PM ET
I've looked for that. He goes down but his head never strikes the ice that I can see. He sort of goes down on his lower back. Does his head hit the ice after the punch?

He obviously injured and I know you can get a concussion without the actual impact, I thought whiplash.

- mayorofangrytown


I thought it was the punch to the jaw that put him out.
Chris48
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gatineau
Joined: 10.21.2011

Dec 9 @ 1:36 PM ET
Flyers broke his back by letting him carry the offense for too long.

I would really like it if super-star Giroux showed up for the rest of the season. This current Giroux is a younger Briere (Whom I love nonsexually).

- Flyersgod



LOL
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 9 @ 1:37 PM ET
"Mr. Snow, we have Mr. Laviolette on line 1"
- johndewar


And the career comes full circle.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Dec 9 @ 1:39 PM ET
The one replay I saw his head does hit the ice, but it could well be a whiplash case.
- Jsaquella


Sometimes, it's not how hard a guy gets hit in the head, but where and how.

Also, I think Shawn Thornton is going to have PLENTY of time coming up to devote to his many off ice charities that I've been told he is involved in.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Dec 9 @ 1:54 PM ET
The Flyers weren't a earner in the early years... they were a weak-sister franchise, a foolhardy experiment... just like hockey in the desert and hockey in Florida seems to us now.

Not all the experiments are going to work, but you have to give them every opportunity to do so, and hope that the league will be stronger overall for them.

- Tomahawk


How long have Phoenix, Florida, and Devils been around? Long enought to develop a fan base, or lack there of. I dont mind supporting teams like Dallas or Tampa, or Colorado for a few year, because they do have fan bases, and will emerge again once the team is good. You compairing apple and oranges.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Dec 9 @ 1:58 PM ET
I'd look into Bouchard... good possession player, useful on the PP, great skater, plays all three forward positions, makes plays, expiring contract.
- Tomahawk


Wish the Isles could take on some cash -- Bouchard for Meszaros makes perfect sense for both teams.

I honestly think Bouchard -- who hasn't played well for them, by all accounts -- could actually have "The Downie Effect" on Schenn and, to a lesser degree, Simmonds.

Those two could really use a playmaking winger. Yes, Bouchard's soft, but he would really fit those two particular players well, I think.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Dec 9 @ 2:01 PM ET
Kind of surprised that they haven't done that yet. Made the big trade, calling up top prospect...Capuano's next to go
- Jsaquella


Sad part is...I'm really not thinking this is his fault. The Isles' defense and goaltending...that's a tough one to have to deal with, over 82 games.
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Dec 9 @ 2:03 PM ET
Just spin the wheel you (frank)ing hack
- Jsaquella

https://www.youtube.com/w...ilpage&v=NZKVKp5Zc0E#t=11
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Dec 9 @ 2:05 PM ET
How long have Phoenix, Florida, and Devils been around? Long enought to develop a fan base, or lack there of. I dont mind supporting teams like Dallas or Tampa, or Colorado for a few year, because they do have fan bases, and will emerge again once the team is good. You compairing apple and oranges.
- youarewrong



Florida drew a lot of fans when they first got there, with all the plastic rats during the Cup run and all. Ownership and management just did a really poor job after that of retaining them.

youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Dec 9 @ 2:11 PM ET
There should be no discussion. He should get a game or two
- Jsaquella


There are rules in game to cover what happened to Rinaldo. And the same rules applied when Emery did the same thing, only worse. There are no grounds for suspension on either events.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Dec 9 @ 2:12 PM ET
I'd like to be optimistic about tonight's game but it's a bit tough...
I feel like a kicked puppy...
Sigh.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Dec 9 @ 2:13 PM ET
Agreed! Based on his past history, I would have given him 10 and made it clear that the next time he pulls a stunt like this it will be 20.
- BiggE


I wish Neal had gotten 10 -- not simply because he's a Penguin, but because I honestly think that guy is dirty. I really do. I think he's as cheap as they come in the league -- he just doesn't do it game in, game out.

But he's a cheap player -- he'll run you from behind, cross-check and slew-foot, come in high.

But he doesn't fight. That's what I don't like about him. As much as Rinaldo pissed me off on Saturday, at least he does one thing for all of his idiocy: He answers the bell.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Dec 9 @ 2:20 PM ET
The one replay I saw his head does hit the ice, but it could well be a whiplash case.
- Jsaquella


His head never hits the ice. Watch the reverse angle feed starting around 2:05. It was a freak accident. Innocent looking contact with an absolutely horrible result.

PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Dec 9 @ 2:20 PM ET
poop like that just pisses me off...Half Assed Bob Barker wannabe spouts off about Emery, then doesn't make a peep when Thornton assaults Orpik and Neal knees a guy in the head while he's down & in vulnerable position.

Just spin the wheel you (frank)ing hack

- Jsaquella




This happened on Sajak's watch last week. Just a touch inappropriate considering the circumstances.

wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Dec 9 @ 2:20 PM ET
I wish Neal had gotten 10 -- not simply because he's a Penguin, but because I honestly think that guy is dirty. I really do. I think he's as cheap as they come in the league -- he just doesn't do it game in, game out.

But he's a cheap player -- he'll run you from behind, cross-check and slew-foot, come in high.

But he doesn't fight. That's what I don't like about him. As much as Rinaldo pissed me off on Saturday, at least he does one thing for all of his idiocy: He answers the bell.

- AllInForFlyers


He is a dirty player, it's not even debatable.
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Dec 9 @ 2:21 PM ET
He is a dirty player, it's not even debatable.
- wolfhounds

James Kneal doesn't even wash his hair. Gross.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Dec 9 @ 2:22 PM ET


This happened on Sajak's watch last week. Just a touch inappropriate considering the circumstances.


- PLindbergh31


That was a DEA project. Was the military involved?
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Dec 9 @ 2:22 PM ET
Florida drew a lot of fans when they first got there, with all the plastic rats during the Cup run and all. Ownership and management just did a really poor job after that of retaining them.


- Tomahawk


And thus they should lose the team. Give another market a shot. Look at the difference between Atlanta Thrashers and Winnipeg Jets. Perfect example. Night and day. Team isnt all that better, but NHL and team automatically get a boost in marketing, merchandise, ect.

There are plenty of other Cities that can be given a shot:
Kansis City,Seattle, Portland, Vegas, Quebec, Markham or Hamilton, & Nova Scotia.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Dec 9 @ 2:23 PM ET
James Kneal doesn't even wash his hair. Gross.
- feelingkettle


That's just beyond the pale...
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Dec 9 @ 2:30 PM ET
5 games for Neal.
- PLindbergh31



He is such a cheap punk. I don't cry for Marchant but that was so dirty. and to hear him say "I will have to look at the tape" when asked if he did it on purpose just burned me
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Dec 9 @ 2:32 PM ET
Behind the play Neal "accidentally" kneed Marchand in the head when he was down on the ice and no one else was around.
The sequence is worth watching though cuz Thornton's hit on Orpik immediately after was also a travesty. I'm sure he's going to get 10+.

- FlyersGrace


Dupius broke Kelly's ankle too on a slash. gem of a game
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Dec 9 @ 2:36 PM ET
He is such a cheap punk. I don't cry for Marchant but that was so dirty. and to hear him say "I will have to look at the tape" when asked if he did it on purpose just burned me
- nastyflyergirl


neal is a complete douche. i would love to see him pay the piper in the next match instead of them going after the wrong player.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Dec 9 @ 2:39 PM ET
Mason gets the nod tonight
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Dec 9 @ 2:40 PM ET
Wish the Isles could take on some cash -- Bouchard for Meszaros makes perfect sense for both teams.

I honestly think Bouchard -- who hasn't played well for them, by all accounts -- could actually have "The Downie Effect" on Schenn and, to a lesser degree, Simmonds.

Those two could really use a playmaking winger. Yes, Bouchard's soft, but he would really fit those two particular players well, I think.

- AllInForFlyers


I would give Akeson a chance to play with Schenn or Simmonds. Or let him play with G and put Voracek with Schenn and Simmonds.
Bearintheforest
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.12.2013

Dec 9 @ 2:40 PM ET
Mason gets the nod tonight
- nastyflyergirl


Mason vs Anderson then. Looking good.
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