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Forums :: Blog World :: Jan Levine: Game 30: NJD 4 NYR 3, Kicking Motion?, Lundqvist, Staal Injury, PIT-BOS
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jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Dec 8 @ 5:08 PM ET
This was expected...how long is the question.
- B2B76


that's what she said
mighty13duck
New York Islanders
Location: New Building. New Owner. New coach Nassau County, NY
Joined: 01.26.2009

Dec 8 @ 5:10 PM ET
Rangers lost yesterday So it is safe to say they win today?
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Dec 8 @ 5:10 PM ET
So the Rangers areally gonna stick with DZ, Moore and Falk. I can smell success already.
B2B76
New York Rangers
Location: "I got mouths to feed", NY
Joined: 08.14.2008

Dec 8 @ 5:11 PM ET
that's what she said
- jimbro83

mighty13duck
New York Islanders
Location: New Building. New Owner. New coach Nassau County, NY
Joined: 01.26.2009

Dec 8 @ 5:12 PM ET
So the Rangers areally gonna stick with DZ, Moore and Falk. I can smell success already.
- tomburton99

Better than Amac Hickey Hamonic Ness Carkner and Martinek
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Dec 8 @ 5:19 PM ET
 I listened to his post game scrum, and Janssen knew what he was doing on his goal. Janssen said he wouldn't be able to get his stick on the puck, so he did a clean over-exaggaterated stop as a way of knocking the puck in without it being a kicking motion. A smart play from a player who's really matured since his last stint in the NHL.

That is from the devils blog today. It's really amazing how much interpretation there is to this rule and all 3 of these this season we've ended up on the wrong end.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Dec 8 @ 5:21 PM ET
Katie Carrera @kcarrera
Philipp Grubauer will start vs NYR.
B2B76
New York Rangers
Location: "I got mouths to feed", NY
Joined: 08.14.2008

Dec 8 @ 5:25 PM ET
 I listened to his post game scrum, and Janssen knew what he was doing on his goal. Janssen said he wouldn't be able to get his stick on the puck, so he did a clean over-exaggaterated stop as a way of knocking the puck in without it being a kicking motion. A smart play from a player who's really matured since his last stint in the NHL.

That is from the devils blog today. It's really amazing how much interpretation there is to this rule and all 3 of these this season we've ended up on the wrong end.

- nyrangers9479

Mehhh, he's still a meathead, but he played a good game last night.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Dec 8 @ 5:44 PM ET
So the Rangers areally gonna stick with DZ, Moore and Falk. I can smell success already.
- tomburton99


this is definite trouble

this is the situation with how we rely on Girardi and Staal.

It's true, neither one of them is having great years, however, they both can play big minutes, like a starting pitcher in baseball that can eat innings.

Who moves up to play the left side with Stralman tonight? Del Zotto? I actually think he is more capable of providing a 20 minute night than Moore and Falk.
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Dec 8 @ 5:44 PM ET
Clearly he changed the direction his foot was going to direct the puck. He even looked down at to make sure he connected. Terrible call from Toronto.
- PoileRulezzzYo


You're allowed to turn your foot to intentionally direct the puck in the net though. You just can't use a kicking motion to do it:

49.2 Goals - Kicking the puck shall be permitted in all zones. A goal cannot be scored by an attacking player who uses a distinct kicking motion to propel the puck into the net. A goal cannot be scored by an attacking player who kicks a puck that deflects into the net off any player, goalkeeper or official.
A puck that deflects into the net off an attacking player’s skate who does not use a distinct kicking motion is a legitimate goal. A puck that is directed into the net by an attacking player’s skate shall be a legitimate goal as long as no distinct kicking motion is evident.


That said, I feel like I've seen that same play called a "kicking motion" plenty of times before last night, so once again it comes down to no consistency. There's too much subjectivity in the rules. Just have it be either legal or illegal for a goal to go in off of a skate and any controversy with plays like this ends.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Dec 8 @ 5:53 PM ET
Vinny Lecavalier has non-displaced fracture in back, out indefinitely for Los Flyers
cranford93
New York Rangers
Location: "For Whatever Reason"
Joined: 04.30.2007

Dec 8 @ 5:56 PM ET
Katie Carrera @kcarrera
Ken Dryden will start vs NYR.

- TPC

Fixed
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Dec 8 @ 6:11 PM ET
Vinny Lecavalier has non-displaced fracture in back, out indefinitely for Los Flyers
- jimbro83

I heard a month, but either way he's out for a long time. This all started when he decided it would be a good idea to fight in 7-1 game and broke his face. His season up that point was very good. Now it's going down hill quick.
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Dec 8 @ 6:19 PM ET
Nhl . Com is saying staal has a neck injury with some symptoms. . . I'm guessing they mean concussion symptoms?
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Dec 8 @ 6:28 PM ET
Nhl . Com is saying staal has a neck injury with some symptoms. . . I'm guessing they mean concussion symptoms?
- nyrangers9479

I like how the Rangers think we're all stupid. Obviously Staal has a concussion. But let's just saw it's a neck injury that will be monitored.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Dec 8 @ 6:43 PM ET
I like how the Rangers think we're all stupid. Obviously Staal has a concussion. But let's just saw it's a neck injury that will be monitored.
- tomburton99

I bet Dubi fell for it
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Dec 8 @ 6:49 PM ET
I bet Dubi fell for it
- TPC

Touche. That actually made me laugh.
B2B76
New York Rangers
Location: "I got mouths to feed", NY
Joined: 08.14.2008

Dec 8 @ 6:58 PM ET
I bet Dubi fell for it
- TPC

evitageN
New York Rangers
Location: Do you smell what The Rock is cooking?
Joined: 01.29.2008

Dec 8 @ 7:12 PM ET
Sup boys, so I'm 0-2-1 at MSG this year. Watching this one at home from the couch. Probably the third or fourth I've sat down to watch all year, been so busy with work.

Oh man! Cally gotta shoot that.
Mtlca66
New York Rangers
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 12.31.2007

Dec 8 @ 7:16 PM ET
Sup boys, so I'm 0-2-1 at MSG this year. Watching this one at home from the couch. Probably the third or fourth I've sat down to watch all year, been so busy with work.

Oh man! Cally gotta shoot that.

- evitageN


stop going to games please. From all of us.
evitageN
New York Rangers
Location: Do you smell what The Rock is cooking?
Joined: 01.29.2008

Dec 8 @ 7:19 PM ET
stop going to games please. From all of us.
- Mtlca66


Ha! two were free (Ducks 2 - 1 loss, Kings 1 - 0 loss) and last nights $82 bucks a pop, went with my GF.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Dec 8 @ 7:23 PM ET
Hank is in the crease, how can Backstrom just run him over like that after the shot?
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Dec 8 @ 7:30 PM ET
anyone else think stepan might get selke consideration one day?
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Dec 8 @ 7:31 PM ET
Ha! two were free (Ducks 2 - 1 loss, Kings 1 - 0 loss) and last nights $82 bucks a pop, went with my GF.
- evitageN

do tickets normally get cheaper or more expensive closer to the game?
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Dec 8 @ 7:32 PM ET
Hank is in the crease, how can Backstrom just run him over like that after the shot?
- TPC

Because he plays for one of the NHL's chosen ones. That's why.
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