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DarcyTucker16
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: St.Albert, AB
Joined: 06.24.2011

Dec 7 @ 10:25 PM ET
He perfectly timed the hit in my opinion he was in the processing of receiving the pass. That'swhy I think it was clean.
- Yeti1181


well thats a different debate... i was just making the point on why i think the instigator rule is bs based on my opnion of the hit... and its not so much the star players having to answer for fights im concerned about if the rule is abolished... how often does kessel make a hit worth fighting over... i think it will get rid of the kaletas of the league because unless they turtle and completely embarass themselves they cant just run and hide behind said goon anymore
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Dec 7 @ 10:26 PM ET
It was totally clean
- nbboy

The only dirty thing about it was he had to touch a bruin..
BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Dec 7 @ 10:28 PM ET
Leafs suck.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Dec 7 @ 10:28 PM ET
So, Do the Leafs win tomorrow? Not sure if the Broons can win without Thornton.. He's awesome. Ericsson they can do without. Rask will be tired and we got a fresh Bernier ready.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Dec 7 @ 10:28 PM ET
The only dirty thing about it was he had to touch a bruin..
- Arctic_AARDVARK


To be fair Eriksson has only been a Bruin for a short while
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Dec 7 @ 10:30 PM ET
To be fair Eriksson has only been a Bruin for a short while
- lumlums

Yeah.. He's always getting hurt too. I bet they miss Seguin. 4pts tonight! Hatty too!
BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Dec 7 @ 10:31 PM ET
Yeah.. He's always getting hurt too. I bet they miss Seguin. 4pts tonight! Hatty too!
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Nichushkin will be the best player from that draft, too.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Dec 7 @ 10:31 PM ET
Yeah.. He's always getting hurt too. I bet they miss Seguin. 4pts tonight! Hatty too!
- Arctic_AARDVARK


In time maybe, but he had a big contract and was not living up to it while providing multiple distractions off the ice.... they had to stick or twist and chose the latter on the back of a reasonable deal
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Dec 7 @ 10:32 PM ET
well thats a different debate... i was just making the point on why i think the instigator rule is bs based on my opnion of the hit... and its not so much the star players having to answer for fights im concerned about if the rule is abolished... how often does kessel make a hit worth fighting over... i think it will get rid of the kaletas of the league because unless they turtle and completely embarass themselves they cant just run and hide behind said goon anymore
- DarcyTucker16



It will stop someone like Kadri from hitting in this league....If the result of a clean hit means he has to fight the "Thornton's" of the league...

The "Instigator" protects guys like Kadri not Kessel(as he dont hit)...If not u get way more of what happened tonight...
Rockhead_37
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Bolton, ON
Joined: 09.11.2010

Dec 7 @ 10:32 PM ET
He perfectly timed the hit in my opinion he was in the processing of receiving the pass. That'swhy I think it was clean.
- Yeti1181


see i think the hit was clean also.... even though eriksson NEVER touched the puck and was NEVER facing orpik....... but i also think orpik should answer the bell.... seeing that orpik is not kessel.

if he does, the rest NEVER happens...

again, i'm NOT blaming orpik, just referring to what goes on in the game..... and if _______ insert any 3rd/4th liner or 4-6 dman..... can hit a star and then skate around like dalton mcguinty..... then you'll end up in a have not province.

just saying.... fighting is part of the game.... even if orpik doesnt want to fight.... drop the gloves and tie thornton up, wrestle him to the ice..... if you do the rest doesnt happen.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Dec 7 @ 10:33 PM ET
In time maybe, but he had a big contract and was not living up to it while providing multiple distractions off the ice.... they had to stick or twist and chose the latter on the back of a reasonable deal
- lumlums

I think the lesson to be learned here is don't draft a centre and then force him to play the wing, it doesn't work. He was given a crappy role in Boston.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Dec 7 @ 10:34 PM ET
Nichushkin will be the best player from that draft, too.
- BetterCallSaul

Ya kids a stud. I almost took him in my pool this morning, but settled on downie
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Dec 7 @ 10:36 PM ET
so if someone hits all of those guys i mentioned above, albeit with clean hits, and knocks them out for extended periods or maybe for good, you are fine with that as long as they don't fight whoever comes calling?
- Rockhead_37

Here you say they should answer the bell and fight but now you say you don't think what thornton did was right. So he shouldn't have fought him now?
BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Dec 7 @ 10:37 PM ET
2-0 with D'Amigo in the line-up. Kid's the secret.
Sammich
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: You're the fukin best Bellows!
Joined: 02.10.2011

Dec 7 @ 10:38 PM ET
I think the lesson to be learned here is don't draft a centre and then force him to play the wing, it doesn't work. He was given a crappy role in Boston.
- Arctic_AARDVARK


yup
they already had their top two centers signed to long term contracts. Seguin was being wasted and they had to trade him to help other areas. They got the best they could considering he had an off year and some off ice problems
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Dec 7 @ 10:38 PM ET
see i think the hit was clean also.... even though eriksson NEVER touched the puck and was NEVER facing orpik....... but i also think orpik should answer the bell.... seeing that orpik is not kessel.

if he does, the rest NEVER happens...

again, i'm NOT blaming orpik, just referring to what goes on in the game..... and if _______ insert any 3rd/4th liner or 4-6 dman..... can hit a star and then skate around like dalton mcguinty..... then you'll end up in a have not province.

just saying.... fighting is part of the game.... even if orpik doesnt want to fight.... drop the gloves and tie thornton up, wrestle him to the ice..... if you do the rest doesnt happen.

- Rockhead_37



I dont want fighting out of the game...But poop like what happened tonight only supports the ones who want it removed....


This crap represents "get rid of hitting or get rid of fighting"...It's ugly for the league...

It was a body check that didn't need to result in a ugly fighting incident...
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Dec 7 @ 10:39 PM ET
see i think the hit was clean also.... even though eriksson NEVER touched the puck and was NEVER facing orpik....... but i also think orpik should answer the bell.... seeing that orpik is not kessel.

if he does, the rest NEVER happens...

again, i'm NOT blaming orpik, just referring to what goes on in the game..... and if _______ insert any 3rd/4th liner or 4-6 dman..... can hit a star and then skate around like dalton mcguinty..... then you'll end up in a have not province.

just saying.... fighting is part of the game.... even if orpik doesnt want to fight.... drop the gloves and tie thornton up, wrestle him to the ice..... if you do the rest doesnt happen.

- Rockhead_37

NOorpik sshouldn't have to fight him and if thornton doesn't try to jump him then that ddoesn't happen. This solely on thorton for jumping orpik.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Dec 7 @ 10:39 PM ET
see i think the hit was clean also.... even though eriksson NEVER touched the puck and was NEVER facing orpik....... but i also think orpik should answer the bell.... seeing that orpik is not kessel.

if he does, the rest NEVER happens...

again, i'm NOT blaming orpik, just referring to what goes on in the game..... and if _______ insert any 3rd/4th liner or 4-6 dman..... can hit a star and then skate around like dalton mcguinty..... then you'll end up in a have not province.

just saying.... fighting is part of the game.... even if orpik doesnt want to fight.... drop the gloves and tie thornton up, wrestle him to the ice..... if you do the rest doesnt happen.

- Rockhead_37


You make it sound like Orpik is a 5-6 plug who skates for 12 minutes a night, and not a 21+ minute a night guy who is a lock to go to the Olympics. He's a top Dman who shouldn't have to justify his game by dropping the gloves on a clean hit just because Joe Blockhead wants to justify his existence...
Rockhead_37
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Bolton, ON
Joined: 09.11.2010

Dec 7 @ 10:40 PM ET
It will stop someone like Kadri from hitting in this league....If the result of a clean hit means he has to fight the "Thornton's" of the league...

The "Instigator" protects guys like Kadri not Kessel(as he dont hit)...If not u get way more of what happened tonight...

- Fruitcakenipple

but seriously.... is thornton going to go after kadri? or kessel or lupul?
no, thats not the code.... only a douche like Jon scott does that...

my whole side of the argument is based on non skilled heavy weight being the delivery man...

to me Orpik is more like Franson or Fraser.... and if those 2 guys threw that check.... yes, i expect them to answer the bell....

but i get that you have a different view, and i am okay with that. i was just asking questions with loose interpretations to see where you would stand if it were a leaf....
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Dec 7 @ 10:40 PM ET
I dont want fighting out of the game...But poop like what happened tonight only supports the ones who want it removed....


This crap represents "get rid of hitting or get rid of fighting"...It's ugly for the league...

It was a body check that didn't need to result in a ugly fighting incident...

- Fruitcakenipple

That's why I blame the whole thing on thortons stupidity.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Dec 7 @ 10:40 PM ET
2-0 with D'Amigo in the line-up. Kid's the secret.
- BetterCallSaul


Its nice having a guy on the 4th who can actually skate and get some pressure at the other end of the ice
Rockhead_37
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Bolton, ON
Joined: 09.11.2010

Dec 7 @ 10:41 PM ET
Here you say they should answer the bell and fight but now you say you don't think what thornton did was right. So he shouldn't have fought him now?
- Yeti1181

are you for real?
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Dec 7 @ 10:41 PM ET
but seriously.... is thornton going to go after kadri? or kessel or lupul?
no, thats not the code.... only a douche like Jon scott does that...

my whole side of the argument is based on non skilled heavy weight being the delivery man...

to me Orpik is more like Franson or Fraser.... and if those 2 guys threw that check.... yes, i expect them to answer the bell....

but i get that you have a different view, and i am okay with that. i was just asking questions with loose interpretations to see where you would stand if it were a leaf....

- Rockhead_37

It doesn'tmatter who it is I think in the same situation he does it again.
Jeffmt
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 10.11.2006

Dec 7 @ 10:41 PM ET
Had they been playing even a half-decent team that would have been ugly. I'm glad that they've gotten a couple wins now but my concern is that they'll fall right back into that trap of thinking their game is fine. It's not fine. Another night of getting badly outshot and taking a comical amount of penalties. They have to fix this stuff.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Dec 7 @ 10:42 PM ET
Katelyn Lawes going to Sochi to represent Canada in the beauty pageant urrr I mean curling.
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