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philco28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 12.06.2011

Dec 6 @ 3:24 PM ET
I will miss the annual Beach has finally matured stories every September......
- UnnamedSource


He's got a major league shot...but his propensity for utter stupidity on/off the ice has been the major banana peel in his career. Maybe Slats and co...give him the
Ray Liotta treatment in Hannibal and rewire that melon of his for the better.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Dec 6 @ 3:25 PM ET
He won't see the NHL with the Hawks Mo. He's a stiff who can't skate. Or hit really. If he playing for the Hawks, something will have gone terribly wrong.
- Elbows15


Sounds like John Scott. I am guessing the got him for a reason, as opposed to some other AHL schlub they could have had for Beach. Maybe he'll be there for a game here or there against certain clubs?
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Dec 6 @ 3:26 PM ET
He's definitely a capable HEAVY that could be spot started on occasion vs the Blues or other tougher teams...but doubt he'll see much time in Chicago.
- philco28

He shouldn't see any time Phil. The guy is bad at hockey. MAybe we can trade him to the Leafs. They like face punchers who can't play. Mac would help our PK.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Dec 6 @ 3:28 PM ET
Sounds like John Scott. I am guessing the got him for a reason, as opposed to some other AHL schlub they could have had for Beach. Maybe he'll be there for a game here or there against certain clubs?
- mohel

Great. Just (frank)ing great. I would rather they play someone who might have a future as a NHL'er.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Dec 6 @ 3:29 PM ET
He shouldn't see any time Phil. The guy is bad at hockey. MAybe we can trade him to the Leafs. They like face punchers who can't play. Mac would help our PK.
- Elbows15


Do you think they picked him up to protect some of the prospects in Rockford? I don't see their games, so I'm not sure if too many liberties have been taken there.
philco28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 12.06.2011

Dec 6 @ 3:30 PM ET
He shouldn't see any time Phil. The guy is bad at hockey. MAybe we can trade him to the Leafs. They like face punchers who can't play. Mac would help our PK.
- Elbows15


I want Fro BACK...one year rental
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Dec 6 @ 3:30 PM ET
Great. Just (frank)ing great. I would rather they play someone who might have a future as a NHL'er.
- Elbows15


Me, too. Someone who might help prevent goals against would be great with me.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Dec 6 @ 3:31 PM ET
I want Fro BACK...one year rental
- philco28



You and me both buddy.

I wonder what kind of contract he'll be in line for next season (wherever he is).
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Dec 6 @ 3:33 PM ET
And on the 3-3 goal, Q got caught with Nordstrom, Bollig and (maybe) Morin on the ice vs Wild's first line.
- RickJ


Yep and the bottom 6 for the Wild were much better than their counterparts...

Part-time effort earns Hawks another loss:http://bit.ly/IHBr68 : My Fox Chicago-On The Blackhawks
philco28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 12.06.2011

Dec 6 @ 3:36 PM ET
You and me both buddy.

I wonder what kind of contract he'll be in line for next season (wherever he is).

- DarthKane


He's still under contract this season at a reasonable price....Stanbo and Chevy do good bid'ness...get him back...reunite him with Krugs....PK issue (hopefully) solved
and we worry about next year after the parade
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Dec 6 @ 3:37 PM ET
I want Fro BACK...one year rental
- philco28

MEh. I was never a big fan of his. Had one decent half season. At this point, I accept this team isn't going to improve its PK or repeat. Never expected to happen. Its too hard with the salary cap.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Dec 6 @ 3:38 PM ET
Do you think they picked him up to protect some of the prospects in Rockford? I don't see their games, so I'm not sure if too many liberties have been taken there.
- mohel

I think it is more a case of getting an idiot away from guys like McNeil and Danault.
philco28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 12.06.2011

Dec 6 @ 3:41 PM ET
MEh. I was never a big fan of his. Had one decent half season. At this point, I accept this team isn't going to improve its PK or repeat. Never expected to happen. Its too hard with the salary cap.
- Elbows15


Nonsense...room can made to bring him back for one year and i love how you forget how valuable he was last year and that he's still in his prime.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Dec 6 @ 3:41 PM ET
He's still under contract this season at a reasonable price....Stanbo and Chevy do good bid'ness...get him back...reunite him with Krugs....PK issue (hopefully) solved
and we worry about next year after the parade

- philco28


Fro makes $2.3M, and according to Capgeek, the Hawks would be $1.8 over the cap. So someone significant would have to go.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Dec 6 @ 3:42 PM ET
Yep and the bottom 6 for the Wild were much better than their counterparts...

Part-time effort earns Hawks another loss:http://bit.ly/IHBr68 : My Fox Chicago-On The Blackhawks

- Al

Not to mention their D was better and their top 6 too. They did not come out to compete for whatever reason last night Al.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Dec 6 @ 3:42 PM ET
I think it is more a case of getting an idiot away from guys like McNeil and Danault.
- Elbows15


I'm sure that's the case, just wondering why they acquire this guy.
philco28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 12.06.2011

Dec 6 @ 3:42 PM ET
Fro makes $2.3M, and according to Capgeek, the Hawks would be $1.8 over the cap. So someone significant would have to go.
- mohel


Brookbank and KAPUT'bulin....DONE.
SnapitUpstairs
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: CHICAGO, IL
Joined: 02.03.2012

Dec 6 @ 3:43 PM ET
>JJ, regarding the PK, last year Hawks excelled at pressuring the puck all over the ice -- this year when they lose a draw -- which happens far too much -- they retreat and back off
>Hawks are tired right now -- I would add Leddy to the PK mix -- even consider him as one of the PK "forwards" -- Hawks aren't winning any races to 50-50 pucks in their own zone
>Hawk PK forwards are also not moving their sticks dynamically "back and forth" like last year -- they tipped a lot of passes that way
>Crawford has not been playing the puck well, at all, recently -- he quietly excelled at it during the SC playoffs -- this year he has turned sure breakouts for his team into extended attack zone time for the other team
>Toews has had stretches this year where he has been as good or better as he has ever been in his career
>JT is getting "rodeo-thrown" to the ice far too much -- with no call -- during his behind the net play offensive play
>Hawk video team needs to cue up a series of Gretzky behind the net plays, as well as side board plays for JT to add to his game
>Would like JT to look to create more plays in the open ice and shoot more, too
>Would have the entire team on much shorter shifts -- Dmen too -- until the mental & physical fatigue goes away
>Kane's continued work with his skills coach this summer is really noticeable now
>Big picture: this is a Hawks team that has performed extremely well and if healthy can definitely repeat as Champs
>When it REALLY matters, this is STILL the mentally-toughest team in the NHL
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Dec 6 @ 3:43 PM ET
Nonsense...room can made to bring him back for one year and i love how you forget how valuable he was last year and that he's still in his prime.
- philco28

And the 2 years previous to that? So Frolik was why they won last year?
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Dec 6 @ 3:45 PM ET
Brookbank and KAPUT'bulin....DONE.
- philco28

What makes you think Winnipeg wants either of those guys? Hiding them in the Rock doesn't do it.
philco28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 12.06.2011

Dec 6 @ 3:46 PM ET
And the 2 years previous to that? So Frolik was why they won last year?
- Elbows15


He found his best stride last year and he and Krugs had out PK near the top of the league all year and if you'll recall.....67 was a vital part of the winning goal.

But then again...you think Toews is weak
philco28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 12.06.2011

Dec 6 @ 3:47 PM ET
What makes you think Winnipeg wants either of those guys? Hiding them in the Rock doesn't do it.
- Elbows15


We don't have to trade them...cut 'em, release...get 'em off the books.
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Dec 6 @ 3:51 PM ET
Not to mention their D was better and their top 6 too. They did not come out to compete for whatever reason last night Al.
- Elbows15


Dead on...

All anyone what has to do is watch the replay of the last two goals....And explain to me the technique used by Oduya and Seabrook to try to block two otherwise harmless shots.

Part-time effort earns Hawks another loss:http://bit.ly/IHBr68 : My Fox Chicago-On The Blackhawks
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Dec 6 @ 3:51 PM ET
He found his best stride last year and he and Krugs had out PK near the top of the league all year and if you'll recall.....67 was a vital part of the winning goal.

But then again...you think Toews is weak

- philco28



As much as I want Frolik back I know it won't happen. For Frolik to come back somebody with a $2+ million salary has to go.
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Dec 6 @ 3:54 PM ET
I want Fro BACK...one year rental
- philco28


If they lose as many faceoffs, miss as many blocks, don't clear out the front of the net and sag in too deep....You can get 2 Froliks back and they will still be in the bottom 6 in the PK.

Part-time effort earns Hawks another loss:http://bit.ly/IHBr68 : My Fox Chicago-On The Blackhawks
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