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DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Dec 6 @ 1:42 PM ET
Red ass for Red ass?
- faustus1500



AHL player for AHL player. Most likely an addition by subtraction type scenario.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Dec 6 @ 1:42 PM ET
HEY, Still better than last.

I don't think its fair to compare any team that hasn't won a cup to a team that has and knows what it takes to do it again. I know the hawks aren't playing completely "lights out" hockey every night but I've said it before and I'll say it again. Come spring time, the Hawks bring their A game. When it comes to the grind of the playoffs that requires depth to go far, this team is STACKED!! We have to send guys that could play on a lot of other teams back to Rockford just to meet our roster numbers. I'll worry if we break out the golf clubs before June.

- PhilMeister89


We shall see. They have the talent for sure. But if they give up goals at this rate all regular season they will be using those clubs earlier than we'd all like. Regular season GA has been a pretty reliable predictor of deep playoff runs.
PhilMeister89
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Overland Park, KS
Joined: 11.08.2013

Dec 6 @ 1:43 PM ET
Hope they both get well soon.
- philco28


Amen.
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Dec 6 @ 1:44 PM ET
Crawford wasn't great in the Dallas loss but to pin the loss to the Wild on him would be wrong.

Oduya kicked/stepped on a puck and put it in...Then he made an awkward block attempt on the winning goal...Seabrook looked like a ballerina trying to throw a leg out to block the tying goal. If they don't screen/deflect either those are saved.

Q. mentioned Crawford and if he is happy with a team that plays 1/2 a game that's fine but I hardly think that is the case behind close doors.

Simply put last Crawford was as good or better than Harding...They had the better scoring chances.

Both Dallas and the Wild outworked the Hawks and last night the bottom six forwards were badly outplayed....... and Shaw and Bickell out together does matter.

Part-time effort earns Hawks another loss:http://bit.ly/IHBr68: My Fox Chicago: On The Blackhawks

On Twitter@AlCimaglia
philco28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 12.06.2011

Dec 6 @ 1:45 PM ET
AHL player for AHL player. Most likely an addition by subtraction type scenario.
- DarthKane


Wonder how long before Slats gets Beach into his first NHL game
PhilMeister89
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Overland Park, KS
Joined: 11.08.2013

Dec 6 @ 1:45 PM ET
We shall see. They have the talent for sure. But if they give up goals at this rate all regular season they will be using those clubs earlier than we'd all like. Regular season GA has been a pretty reliable predictor of deep playoff runs.
- mohel


Your argument is fair but I will ask, not that it should matter but I think it contributes. Do you think the hawks aren't their typical shut down selves because of the Olympics coming? A good chunk of their team is going to rep their respective countries. This is also why I think determination will be different after the Olympics are done.
ArlingtonRob
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 230 years was a good run, IL
Joined: 01.20.2012

Dec 6 @ 1:48 PM ET
So....Kyle Beach has been traded.
georgem
Joined: 08.15.2013

Dec 6 @ 1:48 PM ET
no shock hawks trade for B. Mashinter..
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Dec 6 @ 1:49 PM ET
Wonder how long before Slats gets Beach into his first NHL game
- philco28



I expect it will be rather soon.
prd797
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Scotland
Joined: 06.17.2012

Dec 6 @ 1:51 PM ET
Good riddance, Kyle.
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Dec 6 @ 1:53 PM ET
Crawford wasn't great in the Dallas loss but to pin the loss to the Wild on him would be wrong.

Oduya kicked/stepped on a puck and put it in...Then he made an awkward block attempt on the winning goal...Seabrook looked like a ballerina trying to throw a leg out to block the tying goal. If they don't screen/deflect either those are saved.

Q. mentioned Crawford and if he is happy with a team that plays 1/2 a game that's fine but I hardly think that is the case behind close doors.

Simply put last Crawford was as good or better than Harding...They had the better scoring chances.

Both Dallas and the Wild outworked the Hawks and last night the bottom six forwards were badly outplayed....... and Shaw and Bickell out together does matter.

Part-time effort earns Hawks another loss:http://bit.ly/IHBr68: My Fox Chicago: On The Blackhawks

On Twitter@AlCimaglia

- Al

And on the 3-3 goal, Q got caught with Nordstrom, Bollig and (maybe) Morin on the ice vs Wild's first line.

DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Dec 6 @ 1:53 PM ET
no shock hawks trade for B. Mashinter..
- georgem



Why is it no shock that Chicago acquires Mashinter? It's no surprise Beach is traded but I wouldn't have thought Mashinter was a target.
philco28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 12.06.2011

Dec 6 @ 1:55 PM ET
I expect it will be rather soon.
- DarthKane


Wranglers are at home tomorrow....hope we didn't get fleeced.
BlazinMike
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 05.08.2013

Dec 6 @ 1:55 PM ET
So....Kyle Beach has been traded.
- ArlingtonRob


I know how everybody feels about Beach, but just wondering if anyone thinks a change of scenery will put it together for him? What if he finally gets it after being traded?
ArlingtonRob
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 230 years was a good run, IL
Joined: 01.20.2012

Dec 6 @ 1:58 PM ET
Why is it no shock that Chicago acquires Mashinter? It's no surprise Beach is traded but I wouldn't have thought Mashinter was a target.
- DarthKane


I'm not sure the Hawks "targeted" anyone. My guess is that the Hawks were simply looking for someone interested in Beach, at which point personnel was discussed.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Dec 6 @ 1:59 PM ET
I know how everybody feels about Beach, but just wondering if anyone thinks a change of scenery will put it together for him? What if he finally gets it after being traded?
- BlazinMike



Possible, but unlikely. Either way nothing was going to happen for him in this organization, much like J Hayes and Olsen.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Dec 6 @ 2:00 PM ET
I'm not sure the Hawks "targeted" anyone. My guess is that the Hawks were simply looking for someone interested in Beach, at which point personnel was discussed.
- ArlingtonRob



That was my thought too. But the poster made it seem Chicago was looking at this guy specifically:

"no shock hawks trade for B. Mashinter.."
BlazinMike
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 05.08.2013

Dec 6 @ 2:02 PM ET
Possible, but unlikely. Either way nothing was going to happen for him in this organization, much like J Hayes and Olsen.
- DarthKane


True, just would suck if he ends up being a solid depth piece that can score and agitate with some size somewhere else. Shaw is pretty much our guy for that and hes a badass but hes not exactly built for the role.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Dec 6 @ 2:06 PM ET
True, just would suck if he ends up being a solid depth piece that can score and agitate with some size somewhere else. Shaw is pretty much our guy for that and hes a badass but hes not exactly built for the role.
- BlazinMike



We have Shaw now we well as McNeill and Ross in Rockford who are ahead of Beach (for that type of role).
BlazinMike
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 05.08.2013

Dec 6 @ 2:24 PM ET
We have Shaw now we well as McNeill and Ross in Rockford who are ahead of Beach (for that type of role).
- DarthKane


Amen, isnt Hartman supposed to fit that same mold as well? Even if hes a year or two away from being with the big club?
Maggie
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: FL
Joined: 03.06.2010

Dec 6 @ 2:29 PM ET
Amen, isnt Hartman supposed to fit that same mold as well? Even if hes a year or two away from being with the big club?
- BlazinMike



Just looked Mashinter up in hockey fights.com and he is a big boy who will hit and drop them. maybe they need someone like that
BlazinMike
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 05.08.2013

Dec 6 @ 2:32 PM ET
Just looked Mashinter up in hockey fights.com and he is a big boy who will hit and drop them. maybe they need someone like that
- Maggie


He is a big boy. They (bigger players) usually dont skate very well, i imagine if Mashinter had speed to his game he wouldnt be an AHL guy. Not sure though, i dont know much about the guy
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Dec 6 @ 2:33 PM ET
Amen, isnt Hartman supposed to fit that same mold as well? Even if hes a year or two away from being with the big club?
- BlazinMike



You are correct, Hartman is another physical forward in the pipeline.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Dec 6 @ 2:36 PM ET
one of the wider stanced fist fighters…


I guess my call for a forward Brookbank were heard:

Vs. Can Janssen

http://www.hockeyfights.com/fights/117901

vs. Wanye Simmonds

http://www.hockeyfights.com/fights/118815

vs. George Parros

http://www.hockeyfights.com/fights/104558

vs Cody McCormick

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jd2hyIyHFyM

and an end of the Dale Tallon Kyle bBeach legacy…
Dale proving again that if he doesn't pick in the top three he is guess, and guessing wrong:
200
Skille over Kopitar, Hanzel, Rask, OJ Oshie and Steve Downie
2008:
Beach over many Tyler Myers, Erik Karlsson, Jordan Eberle, John Carlson to name a few...
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Dec 6 @ 2:39 PM ET
You are correct, Hartman is another physical forward in the pipeline.
- DarthKane


But Hartman is no heavyweight…he is a tough middleweight with ability to play three position and mix it up when it may be necessary, but he is a whole lot more than situational fighter...
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