I wanted everyone to see all those negative comments from our fellow posters- pretty much par for the course.

More fixes for the SS Blackhawk than necessary.
- wiz1901

Fvinese or what ever is a ignoramus, so why does anyone even comment on anything he says

Wow....... Hey Wiz, how about some decaf? It's a little early for the "whole prevention police" thing.

For the record, the post directly after yours offered no opinion whatsoever.
- yahoodi

One cup of coffee a day for me…no other cafeine.

No you're right…I was just preparing for the onslaught of negativeity that started yesterday.

I guess I am to the point where I tire easily when individual players in a team game become the linear focus of what ails teams.

Last season, I went through an entire season where I turned the audio of all games off (and the even funnier thing is the Canadien Satellite never had a Foley broadcast,mostly the opposition broadcasters.) so I never bothered to be "filled in" on the things they had as bullet points.

This year, I thought I would give all the home and away broadcasters another chance.

But whether you all believe it or not, the fact that every broadcasting team decides prior to air time what is important and how they will be sure to mention these bullet points more than twice over the course of the game, no matter if it is necessary or not, whether time permits, or there is a lull…it can be in the heat of an fiery attack assault…"I think it's time for me to again tell you that,
"Kane is 3rd in scoring"
or
"Hossa used to play for us (Ottawa)."
or
The PK is last in the league."

To me in 80% of the bullet point talking happens when the fact is in no way aligned with the flow of the game, or worthy of repeat, when they could be of telling me(you), "so and so got the puck taken…"

...and I realize as aggravating as thes homer announcers are when they spend time telling me it could have been a penalty on Seabrook as well when Niederreiter clearly grabs #7 jersey, or
are all about theri team's surge without ever balancing the facts when the actually have little time holding unto and possessing the puck.

I hate to say it but the best braodcast of the year was TSN broadcast team Gordie Miller & Pierre McGuire in the Dallas game.

There was some bullet points, but all in all, they called what transpired, not a vastly different game that many many home town announcers seem to do on a constant basis.

I actually have been surprised by hearing some games announcers and color guys who I had giving up on as delusional biased have no floated down to a plane of "reasonableness"…and that is really all I want to expect of my visits here.

Not tear it down posts.

Not folks running to the defense of the players and their results.

I don't if that further muddles my knee-jerk reation that started with an email about how Versteeg did nother and caused the lost and the other two Florida stars were flying high in their destruction of the juggernaut Winipeg Jets

Goalies sometimes play better when there is pressure on them in the form or another goalies. Is it possible that Emery's great season motivated Crawford?
- faustus1500

No question that they very fact Ray Emery was able to come up big after CC was sour or nursing injuries…it was a big factor, that kept the wins coming.

and no question there was the game (against the Sharks I believe) where from the Hawk bench emery basically challenged and called out every Shark player…that was clearly a rallying point.

I dont get how so many of u can be saying this definitively. U cant expect us to be 100% perfect. Our GA in 2010 wasnt anything special, and it didnt stop us. Our PP was dead last last year, so were our face offs, ...that didnt stop us. Chances are that our PK isnt gonna get much better, thats just the way it is....But im not willing to sit here in early December and say theres no chance we win the Cup cuz ONE facet of our game happens to be bad. People need to chiiiiillllll. We're the best team in the league dammit!
- SimpleJack

The 2010 team was fifth in the league in goals against, and the 2013 team was first. Also, scanning the past several champions, ALL of them were excellent in goals against. Goals For is lots of fun, but ask the Capitals of the past several years where that gets you. Goals Against matters, and the Hawks need to be playing like one the best Goals Against teams when the playoffs roll around. Right now they are 22nd.

No question that they very fact ray emery was able to come up big after CC was sour or nursing injuries…it was a big factor, that kept the wins coming.

and no question there was the game (against the Sharks I believe) where from the Hawk bench emery basically challenged and called out every Shark player…that was clearly a rallying point.
- wiz1901

Nordstrom

One cup of coffee a day for me…no other cafeine.

No you're right…I was just preparing for the onslaught of negativeity that started yesterday.

I guess I am to the point where I tire easily when individual players in a team game become the linear focus of what ails teams.

Last season, I went through an entire season where I turned the audio of all games off (and the even funnier thing is the Canadien Satellite never had a Foley broadcast,mostly the opposition broadcasters.) so I never bothered to be "filled in" on the things they had as bullet points.

This year, I thought I would give all the home and away broadcasters another chance.

But whether you all believe it or not, the fact that every broadcasting team decides prior to air time what is important and how they will be sure to mention these bullet points more than twice over the course of the game, no matter if it is necessary or not, whether time permits, or there is a lull…it can be in the heat of an fiery attack assault…"I think it's time for me to again tell you that,
"Kane is 3rd in scoring"
or
"Hossa used to play for us (Ottawa)."
or
The PK is last in the league."

To me in 80% of the bullet point talking happens when the fact is in no way aligned with the flow of the game, or worthy of repeat, when they could be of telling me(you), "so and so got the puck taken…"

...and I realize as aggravating as thes homer announcers are when they spend time telling me it could have been a penalty on Seabrook as well when Niederreiter clearly grabs #7 jersey, or
are all about theri team's surge without ever balancing the facts when the actually have little time holding unto and possessing the puck.

I hate to say it but the best braodcast of the year was TSN broadcast team Gordie Miller & Pierre McGuire in the Dallas game.

There was some bullet points, but all in all, they called what transpired, not a vastly different game that many many home town announcers seem to do on a constant basis.

I actually have been surprised by hearing some games announcers and color guys who I had giving up on as delusional biased have no floated down to a plane of "reasonableness"…and that is really all I want to expect of my visits here.

Not tear it down posts.

Not folks running to the defense of the players and their results.

I don't if that further muddles my knee-jerk reation that started with an email about how Versteeg did nother and caused the lost and the other two Florida stars were flying high in their destruction of the juggernaut Winipeg Jets
- wiz1901

Pete McD IC K said Keith's shot "was a weapon"

Nordstrom
- Maggie

He needs to go back to Rockford, he's just not read yet. I'm sure once Shaw and/or Handzus come back Nordstrom is back in Rockford.

I hope Q keeps Versteeg as the 2C for a bit longer. I'm not saying he's the solution but he's worth a longer look.

Pete McD IC K said Keith's shot "was a weapon"

- philco28

Sure is. Duncs should own stock in CCM or Bauer for the amount of shin pads he crushes.

I think Keith is a great D-man and the Hawks would be up the creek w/out him, but his shot sucks. Not sure anyone saw this but in the Dallas game near the end, the puck was out there for the taking. There was some traffic in front of the net and Keith jumped up and pounded it. Even if there wasn't traffic, he would've missed wide as he punished someone's shin standing about 8 feet to the right of Lehtonen

Hope everyone is doing well.

Tough loss last night. The PK seems to be this team's kryptonite. No confidence, and everything that can go wrong, has. Guys not in lanes. Guys too passive. D men losing guys for easy goals. Crawford not being the team's best PK and making the huge, timely stop. They really need to figure this out, and quick.

I really hope that people aren't questioning a Kris Versteeg at half the price in salary by giving up Dylan Olsen and Jimmy Hayes, because both scored a goal last night. That is just not necessary.

Not really concerned at all. Team has tons of talent, has shown the late 90s Redwings gear where they play disinterested for 30 minutes, wake up, and storm back and dominate. That should strike fear in every opponent.



The only thing I am concerned about is Toews. he looks off. He looks either hurt or ill. Very similar to how he looked in late 2011 after Thornton concussed him and he tried to play through it. He's falling down a lot against the boards in battles, and I really wonder if he's trying to play through some cob webs. Unlike Toews to look very sluggish for a 3-4 game stretch.
- SteveRain

How much of the Toews falling down is a result of the refs not calling cross checking on the opposition? It's like the opponents get the Pronger waiver when it comes to the rules foe cross checking. I'm surprised more players aren't seriously injured from all the lower body cross checking that is allowed
Cross checking I thought was to hands on the stick and hitting the opposition but it looks if like if you keep it at waist level it legal

Sure is. Duncs must own stock in CCM or Bauer for the amount of shin pads he crushes.

I think Keith is a great D-man and the Hawks would be up the creek w/out him, but his shot sucks. Not sure anyone saw this but in the Dallas game near the end, the puck was out there for the taking. There was some traffic in front of the net and Keith jumped up and pounded it. Even if there wasn't traffic, he would've missed wide as he punished someone's shin standing about 8 feet to the right of Lehtonen
- eburgio

I love Duncs too...but he needs to work on his power, accuracy and re-think his whole approach to SHOOTING THE PUCK.

I love Duncs too...but he needs to work on his power, accuracy and re-think his whole approach to SHOOTING THE PUCK.
- philco28

Or Q can just plan Keith less on the PP. Give more ice time to Leddy, Hjalmarsson and Oduya.

Or Q can just plan Keith less on the PP. Give more ice time to Leddy, Hjalmarsson and Oduya.
- DarthKane

BINGO....WINNER, WINNER....CHICKEN DINNER

Or Q can just plan Keith less on the PP. Give more ice time to Leddy, Hjalmarsson and Oduya.
- DarthKane

I believe Keith is leading all D-men in Assists, so he's doing something right. I don't mind him on the Power Play, but like Philco says, he needs to revise his approach to SHOOTING the puck.

Or Q can just plan Keith less on the PP. Give more ice time to Leddy, Hjalmarsson and Oduya.
- DarthKane

Not directed at you, Darth.... There's a lot of talk on the board about Keith and the PP, and I get the shooting issue. But, the Hawks lead the league in scoring. They don't have problems putting it in the net, they have a bit of a problem keeping it out of the other net.

Not directed at you, Darth.... There's a lot of talk on the board about Keith and the PP, and I get the shooting issue. But, the Hawks lead the league in scoring. They don't have problems putting it in the net, they have a bit of a problem keeping it out of the other net.
- mohel

We've got another problem. There wasn't much NET PRESENCE last night at all.

Pretty sad when a half pint like the lovable Shaw is your ONLY discernible
doorstep agitator.

Not directed at you, Darth.... There's a lot of talk on the board about Keith and the PP, and I get the shooting issue. But, the Hawks lead the league in scoring. They don't have problems putting it in the net, they have a bit of a problem keeping it out of the other net.
- mohel

I hear you, the PP has been good and offense has not been an issue. But I say leave Keith on the PP and keep him on the PK where he's more effective. I have no complaints about Keith's overall game, I just want Q to manage his minutes. Maybe Keith stays on the PP, but if he does it should be on the 2nd unit and most. Of Keith's 24 assists only 7 were on the power play.

We've got another problem. There wasn't much NET PRESENCE last night at all.

Pretty sad when a half pint like the lovable Shaw is your ONLY discernible
doorstep agitator.
- philco28

That's where we miss Shaw and Bickell (when he decides to play like that).

The 2010 team was fifth in the league in goals against, and the 2013 team was first. Also, scanning the past several champions, ALL of them were excellent in goals against. Goals For is lots of fun, but ask the Capitals of the past several years where that gets you. Goals Against matters, and the Hawks need to be playing like one the best Goals Against teams when the playoffs roll around. Right now they are 22nd.
- mohel

HEY, Still better than last.

I don't think its fair to compare any team that hasn't won a cup to a team that has and knows what it takes to do it again. I know the hawks aren't playing completely "lights out" hockey every night but I've said it before and I'll say it again. Come spring time, the Hawks bring their A game. When it comes to the grind of the playoffs that requires depth to go far, this team is STACKED!! We have to send guys that could play on a lot of other teams back to Rockford just to meet our roster numbers. I'll worry if we break out the golf clubs before June.

Kyle Beach experiment finally over. Hawks trade him to NYR for Brandon Mashinter.

per Rozner

Kyle Beach experiment finally over. Hawks trade him to NYR for Brandon Mashinter.

per Rozner
- philco28

Red ass for Red ass?

That's where we miss Shaw and Bickell (when he decides to play like that).
- DarthKane

Hope they both get well soon.

Red ass for Red ass?
- faustus1500

Bit of a yawner deal.....Beach wasted 5 PHUCK'N YEARS of our time.

I hear you, the PP has been good and offense has not been an issue. But I say leave Keith on the PP and keep him on the PK where he's more effective. I have no complaints about Keith's overall game, I just want Q to manage his minutes. Maybe Keith stays on the PP, but if he does it should be on the 2nd unit and most. Of Keith's 24 assists only 7 were on the power play.
- DarthKane

Agreed on all those points.

Beach to Rangers.

Bit of a yawner deal.....Beach wasted 5 PHUCK'N YEARS of our time.

- philco28

Sorry I meant to say AHL red ass for AHL red ass.