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PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Dec 6 @ 3:07 PM ET
You might be able to fool yourself into thinking you aren't ignoring anything that doesn't fit your Schenn-is-useless agenda, but you don't fool me. I watch the games, and he has been fine ever since Berube tried the disastrous Gill + Meszaros experiment.

Since the team is doing better now you have to laser focus your whining on something, I guess.

- Feanor


If you say so. Hopefully there isn't too much clutter on his mantel, needs a spot for the Norris Trophy.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 6 @ 3:10 PM ET
I'm going to see Charlie Hunter this week.

If you don't know him, check it out.

- Marc D

will do, thanks!
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Dec 6 @ 3:10 PM ET
If you say so. Hopefully there isn't too much clutter on his mantel, needs a spot for the Norris Trophy.
- PLindbergh31

Right, because since he basically said "Schenn hasn't been bad", he now means "Schenn has been playing like the best defensman in the conference"

Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Dec 6 @ 3:10 PM ET
You might be able to fool yourself into thinking you aren't ignoring anything that doesn't fit your Schenn-is-useless agenda, but you don't fool me. I watch the games, and he has been fine ever since Berube tried the disastrous Gill + Meszaros experiment.

Since the team is doing better now you have to laser focus your whining on something, I guess.

- Feanor

I wouldn't say Luke has been awful, but he does not look as confident as he did last year. Was playing with Kimmo the reason? I guess it's part of it. Also I think he got better as the season went on, and am hoping he does the same this year.

I do think the Flyers third D pair as stands is still a weakness.
They have trouble getting the puck out of their end (as do the other pairs).
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Dec 6 @ 3:12 PM ET
The way Holmgren handled the Leino situation was about the best thing he's done the last 3 years.

First he acquired him from Detroit for OKT, Leino was a very productive player for the Flyers and was damn near a vital cog on a Cup winning team. Second he let Leino walk when contract demands got ridiculous.

- PLindbergh31

I know it is too early to reach a conclusion, but getting Mason so far would be the best, if he continues his great play.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Dec 6 @ 3:14 PM ET
Right, because since he basically said "Schenn hasn't been bad", he now means "Schenn has been playing like the best defensman in the conference"


- Giroux_Is_God


He's been bad all year. Because he's not as awful as he was earlier in the season doesn't mean he's playing well.

No sense in arguing. If people want to believe Schenn is playing well fine by me.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Dec 6 @ 3:14 PM ET
I know it is too early to reach a conclusion, but getting Mason so far would be the best, if he continues his great play.
- Marc D

I've been beating the "What about Alt" drum for a while now....

If Alt becomes a viable 2nd pair guy that can provide some nice offense, that could turn out to be the biggest steal of a trade in my lifetime.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Dec 6 @ 3:16 PM ET
I know it is too early to reach a conclusion, but getting Mason so far would be the best, if he continues his great play.
- Marc D


That's true. Mason has been nothing short of brilliant.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Dec 6 @ 3:21 PM ET
I've been beating the "What about Alt" drum for a while now....

If Alt becomes a viable 2nd pair guy that can provide some nice offense, that could turn out to be the biggest steal of a trade in my lifetime.

- Giroux_Is_God

what did they trade for Alt?
I can't remember that deal at all.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Dec 6 @ 3:24 PM ET
what did they trade for Alt?
I can't remember that deal at all.

- Marc D

We got Boucher and Alt for Luke Pither
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 6 @ 3:26 PM ET
We got Boucher and Alt for Luke Pither
- JAKEw1234


Heck if Alt becomes any kind of regular that deal is a steal!
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Dec 6 @ 3:26 PM ET
You might be able to fool yourself into thinking you aren't ignoring anything that doesn't fit your Schenn-is-useless agenda, but you don't fool me. I watch the games, and he has been fine ever since Berube tried the disastrous Gill + Meszaros experiment.

Since the team is doing better now you have to laser focus your whining on something, I guess.

- Feanor



harsh but true
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Dec 6 @ 3:27 PM ET
Right, because since he basically said "Schenn hasn't been bad", he now means "Schenn has been playing like the best defensman in the conference"


- Giroux_Is_God



harsh but true
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 6 @ 3:28 PM ET
We got Boucher and Alt for Luke Pither
- JAKEw1234


I can't believe we gave up Pither!
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Dec 6 @ 3:28 PM ET
harsh but true
- -davies-


Schenn getting 6th dman minutes all year, in addition to being a healthy scratch 3 games.

What does that tell you?
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Dec 6 @ 3:28 PM ET
You might be able to fool yourself into thinking you aren't ignoring anything that doesn't fit your Schenn-is-useless agenda, but you don't fool me. I watch the games, and he has been fine ever since Berube tried the disastrous Gill + Meszaros experiment.

Since the team is doing better now you have to laser focus your whining on something, I guess.

- Feanor

+1
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 6 @ 3:30 PM ET
I wouldn't say Luke has been awful, but he does not look as confident as he did last year. Was playing with Kimmo the reason? I guess it's part of it. Also I think he got better as the season went on, and am hoping he does the same this year.

I do think the Flyers third D pair as stands is still a weakness.
They have trouble getting the puck out of their end (as do the other pairs).

- Marc D


I think one of the Flyers problems is that they have too many defenseman who need to play with the right partner in order to be effective. Timonen and Grossmann are the only guys that you can say play their games regardless of partner.

Too many followers and not enough assertiveness.
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Dec 6 @ 3:32 PM ET
Schenn getting 6th dman minutes all year, in addition to being a healthy scratch 3 games.

What does that tell you?

- PLindbergh31



probably something in between HE SUCKS and HE WINS NORRIS
Schenn2shine
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.26.2011

Dec 6 @ 3:34 PM ET
The way Holmgren handled the Leino situation was about the best thing he's done the last 3 years.

First he acquired him from Detroit for OKT, Leino was a very productive player for the Flyers and was damn near a vital cog on a Cup winning team. Second he let Leino walk when contract demands got ridiculous.

- PLindbergh31

Take a look at Matt Read. Right now he's making Ville Leino like money from when Leino played here. He wasn't playing much in Detroit or getting the ice time he probably deserved. Leino gets traded here and finds himself with great chemistry on a very successful top line that went right to the Cup Final. The Hartnell, Briere and Leino line might be the best since the Legion of Doom. Leino threw away success for money. The contract the Giroux has right now UNTIL next season, he signed for less than he was worth. Coburn did the same with his second contract with the Flyers. On a second contract in the NHL, when unproven, take a hair cut for a couple years to prove yourself. Don't take the money and run because if you do, you miss out on a much bigger pay out in the long run.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Dec 6 @ 3:35 PM ET
+1
- Crimsoninja


Actually Schenn is -3



PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 6 @ 3:39 PM ET
Take a look at Matt Read. Right now he's making Ville Leino like money from when Leino played here. He wasn't playing much in Detroit or getting the ice time he probably deserved. Leino gets traded here and finds himself with great chemistry on a very successful top line that went right to the Cup Final. The Hartnell, Briere and Leino line might be the best since the Legion of Doom. Leino threw away success for money. The contract the Giroux has right now UNTIL next season, he signed for less than he was worth. Coburn did the same with his second contract with the Flyers. On a second contract in the NHL, when unproven, take a hair cut for a couple years to prove yourself. Don't take the money and run because if you do, you miss out on a much bigger pay out in the long run.
- Schenn2shine


The second a team outbids Homer for his own player, they've made a mistake.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Dec 6 @ 3:41 PM ET
Actually Schenn is -3




- PLindbergh31

listen we all wear orange colored glasses and drink the kool aid except for you. It's well documented. Also we are Spindoctors (just like the band LOL) and we always skew things to fit our own narratives and agendas.


maybe you should photoshop a pic of LeCavalier's face on a pretzel to really teach us a lesson. Or post that egg on Homer's face photoshop. Another classic!
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Dec 6 @ 3:43 PM ET
listen we all wear orange colored glasses and drink the kool aid except for you. It's well documented. Also we are Spindoctors (just like the band LOL) and we always skew things to fit our own narratives and agendas.


maybe you should photoshop a pic of LeCavalier's face on a pretzel to really teach us a lesson. Or post that egg on Homer's face photoshop. Another classic!

- Crimsoninja


flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Dec 6 @ 3:54 PM ET
Testy in here today
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Dec 6 @ 4:01 PM ET
Trying to catch up on the fun here but let me see if I can take a guess based on the last page....


PLindbergh31 is complaining about or ragging on someone/something involved with the Flyers
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