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Forums :: Blog World :: Jan Levine: Game 29: NYR-BUF, Can Blueshirts Break the Win One, Lose One Pattern?
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tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Dec 5 @ 10:26 PM ET
He expected them to play this year.
- mighty13duck

The Reinhart pick was a no brainier. Pokka was a bit surprising. Pelech I think was a steal, the rest were
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Dec 5 @ 10:48 PM ET
Wow I just realized the Caps only have 8 regulation/OT wins through 28 games....yet they are tied for second with the Rangers
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Dec 5 @ 10:54 PM ET
what a crappy game to go to

the 3 rangers goals and some of hank's saves were all great obviously, but there wasn't much going on worth watching in between those.

nash's goal was UNREAL though
gkmkiller
New York Rangers
Location: Oceanside, CA
Joined: 06.07.2009

Dec 5 @ 11:04 PM ET
I thought Richards was good tonight. Also, Brassard was real noticeable out there. He is a strange player. When he has his game, he can be real good. I am real starting to think Zucc should be a long term option for this team. He'll always be relatively cheap, and there is a lot of fight in him.

And by the way, good to see you TJ.

- Pete V

Loving Zucc of late and really love Kreider's game. It's as if he just realized he is big and strong and is starting to run through players in order to get to where he needs to be. He looks the part of a power forward. We have called Nash that previously but Kreider is really looking the part.

I agree with the sentiment that we need some muscle. I'd love for that to be McI but that may not be until next season. In the interim someone who can play a regular shift on the 4th line and can fight. Tired of getting pushed around by the Chara's, Lucic's, etc., with little push back.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Dec 5 @ 11:08 PM ET
Loving Zucc of late and really love Kreider's game. It's as if he just realized he is big and strong and is starting to run through players in order to get to where he needs to be. He looks the part of a power forward. We have called Nash that previously but Kreider is really looking the part.

I agree with the sentiment that we need some muscle. I'd love for that to be McI but that may not be until next season. In the interim someone who can play a regular shift on the 4th line and can fight. Tired of getting pushed around by the Chara's, Lucic's, etc., with little push back.

- gkmkiller

i'd love roussel from the stars.
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Dec 5 @ 11:51 PM ET
ok you are a GM what move are you making?
- flyerssuck48

Staal for skinner
cranford93
New York Rangers
Location: "For Whatever Reason"
Joined: 04.30.2007

Dec 6 @ 6:20 AM ET
Staal for skinner
- nyrangers9479

Besides Mcdonagh, Staal is untouchable to me, I'd trade Girardi before I'd trade him

i'd love roussel from the stars.
- rangerdanger94


He's got an attitude, his reaction after the penalty shot the other night was cocky and pissed Chicago off.
Blueshirts4ever
New York Rangers
Location: CT
Joined: 05.13.2007

Dec 6 @ 8:10 AM ET
I tell you what, AV isn't afraid to call guys out. He is taking this first year to really figureout who fits into the way he wants the team to play and a shakeup is coming, maybe not until the off-season but its coming. My only fear is some of these guys have to be traded, is he diminishing their value? Seems like nobody is untouchable except for the Nash, Hank and McDonagh (I hate to say it, Callahan may not be an untouchable under AV's watch which bothers the hell out of me). Rising cap, the impending buyout of Richards, this team has a chance to look much different come next season...
mames11
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.29.2013

Dec 6 @ 8:43 AM ET
The 3-Stars of the game have always been a hometown-favored joke to me.

How the hell is Lundqvist not the #1 Star of this game? WTF, he's not even one of them?

Seriously, when you lose 3-1, not one of your players should be listed here; especially when your lone goal is off a bad bounce from the glass.
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Dec 6 @ 8:51 AM ET
I tell you what, AV isn't afraid to call guys out. He is taking this first year to really figureout who fits into the way he wants the team to play and a shakeup is coming, maybe not until the off-season but its coming. My only fear is some of these guys have to be traded, is he diminishing their value? Seems like nobody is untouchable except for the Nash, Hank and McDonagh (I hate to say it, Callahan may not be an untouchable under AV's watch which bothers the hell out of me). Rising cap, the impending buyout of Richards, this team has a chance to look much different come next season...
- Blueshirts4ever


I just want to point this out. If we think that AV is going to have a significant voice in roster composition, which I think that he will, Brad Richards leads the team in points, goals (although Nash would obviously be leading if he wasn't injured), and perhaps most importantly, ice time amongst all forwards.

I raise this, because I don't think that AV is going to care, at all, if Richards contract will ultimately look bad in three years, and I don't see that many great centers on the open market who are either realistic and/or better options than Richards. I think we also need to consider the fact that by the end of his contract, the cap might be approaching $100 million, which will mitigate his cap hit.

Obviously, there is a long way to go in the season, but AV obviously trusts Richards a great deal, and if all else remains equal, I just don't see Richards being bought out. I guess what I am saying is that a Richards buy-out is not the fait acompli that everyone is making it out to be.
OLDSCHOOL#6
New York Rangers
Joined: 10.14.2007

Dec 6 @ 9:15 AM ET
Has anyone considered that the lack of meaningful talks on a new contract can be affecting Callahan? After all, how many shots does he have to block, and how many hits does he have to deliver, in order to get the organization to at least give him some indication that they would like him to stay or not. All to often we forget these guys have young families, and would like to know their immediate future is secure. Yes, I know it's a business, and it's all part of the game, but just think back to when we have had to home after another day at work and explain why we haven't got the promotion, or that raise. Just sayin.
cranford93
New York Rangers
Location: "For Whatever Reason"
Joined: 04.30.2007

Dec 6 @ 9:17 AM ET
The breakout on Nash's goal and the give and go late in the 2nd between Richards and Zucc were things of beauty, that's where the offense is much improved, Zucc since the game he was scratched has been spectacular 18 points in 21 games, might be one of the best contracts in terms of production

Let's beat NJ finally and get some separation to build on
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Dec 6 @ 9:20 AM ET
The breakout on Nash's goal and the give and go late in the 2nd between Richards and Zucc were things of beauty, that's where the offense is much improved, Zucc since the game he was scratched has been spectacular 18 points in 21 games, might be one of the best contracts in terms of production

Let's beat NJ finally and get some separation to build on

- cranford93


The point production for Zucc is great, but he also plays with a bit of an edge, which I think the team needs. The guy is a tireless worker, and while is obviously small, I think the team needs his energy. He's really impressed me, and he is also a guy I would like to see get locked up for a couple of years if the Rangers can get him relatively cheap. He is certaintly going to cost more than what the Rangers are currently paying him, however.
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Dec 6 @ 9:23 AM ET
Has anyone considered that the lack of meaningful talks on a new contract can be affecting Callahan? After all, how many shots does he have to block, and how many hits does he have to deliver, in order to get the organization to at least give him some indication that they would like him to stay or not. All to often we forget these guys have young families, and would like to know their immediate future is secure. Yes, I know it's a business, and it's all part of the game, but just think back to when we have had to home after another day at work and explain why we haven't got the promotion, or that raise. Just sayin.
- OLDSCHOOL#6


I would hope that the sides are at least talking, and there is a reasonable common ground that can be reached soon between the parties. I think one thing that we learned from the Hank contract is that something may happen any day, with out us really expecting it. I do agree that having this many guys in flux could serve as a distraction, and if the Rangers really want to lock up Callahan and others long term, it may be in their interests go get the deals done as soon as feasibly possible. Let's hope both sides are being reasonable here.
mames11
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.29.2013

Dec 6 @ 9:27 AM ET
Has anyone considered that the lack of meaningful talks on a new contract can be affecting Callahan? After all, how many shots does he have to block, and how many hits does he have to deliver, in order to get the organization to at least give him some indication that they would like him to stay or not. All to often we forget these guys have young families, and would like to know their immediate future is secure. Yes, I know it's a business, and it's all part of the game, but just think back to when we have had to home after another day at work and explain why we haven't got the promotion, or that raise. Just sayin.
- OLDSCHOOL#6


Cally's up next. Hank was first, though.
mames11
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.29.2013

Dec 6 @ 9:33 AM ET
Wow I just realized the Caps only have 8 regulation/OT wins through 28 games....yet they are tied for second with the Rangers
- TPC



Teams should get ZERO points for losing at any time and Shoot-out wins should only get one point for the victor, IMO. If I were to change the team point scoring system, that's what I'd do. The shoot-out should not generate the same amount of points as a regulation and OT win, if for anything, it's because it's used against a team in the event of a tie-breaker when the season ends.

Win in Regulation or OT = 2 points
Win in Shoot-out = 1 point
Losing in regulation, OT, or Shoot-out = 0 points
NYRangers1124
New York Rangers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 07.24.2008

Dec 6 @ 9:50 AM ET
Besides Mcdonagh, Staal is untouchable to me, I'd trade Girardi before I'd trade him
- cranford93

yeah?

aside from the first couple games, i think staal's having a rough go so far. as the newsday article today mentioned im sure lack of action is a factor.

just thinking I dont think he's untouchable, i'd rather giradi at this point

EDIT: I dont want to move either at this point, and Staal's still about 20 min per game
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Dec 6 @ 9:51 AM ET
yeah?

aside from the first couple games, i think staal's having a rough go so far. as the newsday article today mentioned im sure lack of action is a factor.

just thinking I dont think he's untouchable, i'd rather giradi at this point

- NYRangers1124


I wouldn't label Staal untouchable at all.

he is one of the defensemen Vigneault hasn't been happy with, since he is only happy with McD
cranford93
New York Rangers
Location: "For Whatever Reason"
Joined: 04.30.2007

Dec 6 @ 9:53 AM ET
yeah?

aside from the first couple games, i think staal's having a rough go so far. as the newsday article today mentioned im sure lack of action is a factor.

just thinking I dont think he's untouchable, i'd rather giradi at this point

EDIT: I dont want to move either at this point, and Staal's still about 20 min per game

- NYRangers1124

I read that too, I'm not sold on this is Staal because of a small sample of average play, he's still 26 compared to 29 and signed for 1 more year which gives them more wiggle room with the cap.
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Dec 6 @ 9:53 AM ET
I wouldn't label Staal untouchable at all.

he is one of the defensemen Vigneault hasn't been happy with, since he is only happy with McD

- jimbro83


He is a -8 with only 3 points in 29 games. I realize that numbers don't tell the whole story, but he hasn't been playing great. The only problem with dealing Staal is that doing so means MDZ stays, and AV doesn't seem to have much confidence in either Moore or MDZ playing a second pairing role.
mames11
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.29.2013

Dec 6 @ 9:58 AM ET
He is a -8 with only 3 points in 29 games. I realize that numbers don't tell the whole story, but he hasn't been playing great. The only problem with dealing Staal is that doing so means MDZ stays, and AV doesn't seem to have much confidence in either Moore or MDZ playing a second pairing role.
- Pete V



Staal was jumping in the plays rather often early in the season and the team was getting killed with the puck going the other way. Since Staal is better defensively than Stralhman (no knock on the guy as he's been a heck of a find/steal), I think he's been keeping back some and letting Strahlman jump in the plays more. At least that's what I have noticed in the games I've seen.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Dec 6 @ 10:01 AM ET
He is a -8 with only 3 points in 29 games. I realize that numbers don't tell the whole story, but he hasn't been playing great. The only problem with dealing Staal is that doing so means MDZ stays, and AV doesn't seem to have much confidence in either Moore or MDZ playing a second pairing role.
- Pete V

You who has been playing great lately, Stralman. He was excellent last night ans has been steady all year.
MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

Dec 6 @ 10:03 AM ET
yeah?

aside from the first couple games, i think staal's having a rough go so far. as the newsday article today mentioned im sure lack of action is a factor.

just thinking I dont think he's untouchable, i'd rather giradi at this point

EDIT: I dont want to move either at this point, and Staal's still about 20 min per game

- NYRangers1124



Not saying Staal should be traded but I am with Vigneault, aside from McDonagh, not one defensemen has been really good this season.
NYRangers1124
New York Rangers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 07.24.2008

Dec 6 @ 10:07 AM ET
Not saying Staal should be traded but I am with Vigneault, aside from McDonagh, not one defensemen has been really good this season.
- MidnightMarauder

his offensive ability this season has been 0 (outside games 1 and 2). the fade away wrist shots from the blue line make my blood boil
MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

Dec 6 @ 10:19 AM ET
his offensive ability this season has been 0 (outside games 1 and 2). the fade away wrist shots from the blue line make my blood boil
- NYRangers1124


It is what it is with Staal. When he is on his game he is a good second pairing defenseman, when he is not, he is still an above average NHL player.

The problem with that is there really isn't a wide gap between the two, for him. There's no other level he can rise to; he's pretty middle of the road on the whole.
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