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DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Dec 5 @ 12:38 PM ET
Considering all the injuries we had and being one of the youngest team in the league, I was quite happy indeed!
- Raven33


reach for those stars my man
kow23
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 11.25.2008

Dec 5 @ 12:38 PM ET
Not sure about Suter and Doughty. Not this year anyway...
- Pecafan Fan


Really Suter ? HE plays almost 30 mins a game and is clearly their best d-man and possibly the best in the west along with Weber. Wow this clearly shows that you only watch habs games.
Alpamayo91
Boston Bruins
Location: MA
Joined: 02.24.2009

Dec 5 @ 12:38 PM ET
So guys i got this extremely close reliable source, and he's kinda been eluding to a Toews&Kane for Crosby&Malkin trade....not official yet....but im hearing its very serious on both sides. Ill keep u posted.
- SimpleJack


I know this is a joke, but would you?

- Jeffmt


I'd take C&M over T&K any day.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Dec 5 @ 12:38 PM ET
Not sure about Suter and Doughty. Not this year anyway...
- Pecafan Fan


Better defensive players then PK
Still offer offense
Less flashy then pk
Overall smarter players
Sometimes less is more

Pk is a good d man but him winning the Norris was the worst thing to happen ... That award doesn't go to the best defenseman anymore ... It goes to the defenseman with most points who is the most popular


Jeffmt
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 10.11.2006

Dec 5 @ 12:39 PM ET
Umm, Suter is american.
- Rtt19


I almost called him on that too, but he was replying to someone asking for 5 better defensemen in general.
FinAddict
Joined: 07.02.2010

Dec 5 @ 12:39 PM ET
Agreed. He's dominant and a game-breaker. With the other all-stars and leaders on the ice he may well come out as one of the most valuable players on the team.
- AlfieFever

I remember the same discussion around DD8 in 2010, ended up being one of Canada's go-to guys.
bcallaway
St Louis Blues
Location: The Clown may be the source of mirth - but who shall make the clown laugh?
Joined: 03.29.2006

Dec 5 @ 12:39 PM ET

Of course not.


When are the guest bloggers coming back????

Jeffmt
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 10.11.2006

Dec 5 @ 12:40 PM ET
I'd take C&M over T&K any day.
- Alpamayo91


Me too. I'm sure there are a lot of Chicago fans who wouldn't do it though.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Dec 5 @ 12:40 PM ET
I'm a Sharks fan. Subban is elite and has no business not being there, deal with it.

Also why the (frank) should I care what reporters say? There's a reason they don't pick the team. Reporters "report" what will generate the most discussion.

- FinAddict


he's really, really not liked by the majority of non-Montreal Canadian media.
he's not vanilla enough for this country.
poisondhearts37
Los Angeles Kings
Location: A goaltending coach, A few good bounces and the oilers are cup champions!!
Joined: 01.24.2010

Dec 5 @ 12:41 PM ET
Umm, Suter is american.
- Rtt19

The original post said 7 canadians or just 5 in general.
Alpamayo91
Boston Bruins
Location: MA
Joined: 02.24.2009

Dec 5 @ 12:41 PM ET
Better defensive players then PK
Still offer offense
Less flashy then pk
Overall smarter players
Sometimes less is more

Pk is a good d man but him winning the Norris was the worst thing to happen ... That award doesn't go to the best defenseman anymore ... It goes to the defenseman with most points who is the most popular

- Redmile247


...which is why Chara is now often forgotten in top defencemen discussions.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Dec 5 @ 12:41 PM ET
Better defensive players then PK
Still offer offense
Less flashy then pk
Overall smarter players
Sometimes less is more

Pk is a good d man but him winning the Norris was the worst thing to happen ... That award doesn't go to the best defenseman anymore ... It goes to the defenseman with most points who is the most popular

- Redmile247


so, the Norris doesn't count if Redmile247 doesn't like the results.

got it.
2gals1dane
Location: He is a pestilence, & you are the cleansing fire that can rid this sacred land of his disease ridden
Joined: 11.10.2013

Dec 5 @ 12:41 PM ET
Oh God.. that would be like saying that a surgeon is great just because he has degrees on his wall. I will not deny his talent but frankly, the trophy means nothing in my evaluation. I know you agree with me on this one, people need to stop using this Norris thing as an argument in any discussion.
- Alpamayo91


Nice, So every Dman without a Norris is like a Back alley unlicensed "Doctor"
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Dec 5 @ 12:41 PM ET
...which is why Chara is now often forgotten in top defencemen discussions.
- Alpamayo91


he's forgotten because he's 37 and he's not the player he was 3 years ago.
kow23
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 11.25.2008

Dec 5 @ 12:42 PM ET
and of course Roy colluded with Tremblay to let him in for all 9 goals so that he would have a reason to be enrage...right!
- Raven33


Hey I'm just repeating the story that Vernon stated. Not my problem that you don't like it or don't believe it. But it is a strange coincidence that after that meeting, that same night he played like poop. Or he saw his opportunity to get the F*** out. Just saying!!
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Dec 5 @ 12:42 PM ET
Really Suter ? HE plays almost 30 mins a game and is clearly their best d-man and possibly the best in the west along with Weber. Wow this clearly shows that you only watch habs games.
- kow23


0 goals, 15 pts and a -1

I don't care how many minutes he logs... he won't be playing 35 minutes a night on team Canada.
poisondhearts37
Los Angeles Kings
Location: A goaltending coach, A few good bounces and the oilers are cup champions!!
Joined: 01.24.2010

Dec 5 @ 12:43 PM ET
Not sure about Suter and Doughty. Not this year anyway...
- Pecafan Fan

You know its not only about putting up points. This is as bad as Karlsson winning the Norris.
Jeffmt
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 10.11.2006

Dec 5 @ 12:43 PM ET
he's really, really not liked by the majority of non-Montreal Canadian media.
he's not vanilla enough for this country.

- DoubleDown


I don't know about that. I think did a lot of work with TSN during the lockout and has been a guest on a lot of Sportsnet shows and it seems like he's actually very well liked.
Rtt19
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 08.09.2011

Dec 5 @ 12:43 PM ET
The original post said 7 canadians or just 5 in general.
- poisondhearts37


Ya i missed the second part of the post.
FinAddict
Joined: 07.02.2010

Dec 5 @ 12:43 PM ET
so, the Norris doesn't count if Redmile247 doesn't like the results.

got it.

- DoubleDown

He knows more than the ~180 voters from the PHWA.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Dec 5 @ 12:43 PM ET
why?
- BingoLady


Team Canada has enough offense up from x10
When picking d man they will go with safer choices then pk
He has all the talent in the world but he's not there yet overall

With guys like doughty webber Keith you don't need anymore offense than that and there are smarter choices like AP jbo seabrook Boyle ... I know ppl on here will laugh but it's the truth
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Dec 5 @ 12:43 PM ET
Hey I'm just repeating the story that Vernon stated. Not my problem that you don't like it or don't believe it. But it is a strange coincidence that after that meeting, that same night he played like poop. Or he saw his opportunity to get the F*** out. Just saying!!
- kow23


and purposely tarnish his image in Montreal?
he could have asked for a trade quietly, and the result would have been the same.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 5 @ 12:44 PM ET
so, the Norris doesn't count if Redmile247 doesn't like the results.

got it.

- DoubleDown

After PK won it I'm wondering wether it should count.
Raven33
Ottawa Senators
Location: Jenn, stop copying me as I copy Garth myself! - Andrew S.
Joined: 11.12.2008

Dec 5 @ 12:44 PM ET
Hey I'm just repeating the story that Vernon stated. Not my problem that you don't like it or don't believe it. But it is a strange coincidence that after that meeting, that same night he played like poop. Or he saw his opportunity to get the F*** out. Just saying!!
- kow23


I'll have to re-read his book as I have it at home but never saw anything in there that corralated the two together... but when it comes to opportunites to get the hell out of MTL, I can't blame him! LOL ...99% of players do better once they leave MTL!
Jeffmt
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 10.11.2006

Dec 5 @ 12:45 PM ET
...which is why Chara is now often forgotten in top defencemen discussions.
- Alpamayo91


If you can manage to forget everything he's done up until the past year and a half, he's not one of the top defensemen anymore. He's still really good but he's lost a step. There's no shame in that either, he's a great player for being old as (frank).
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