You Subban haters make me giggle. Boyle is one of the defencemen people think should be ahead of Subban. He scored on himself in the playoffs. Does that make him bad defensively? I watched an L.A. game last year and saw Doughty give the puck away 4 times. Does that make him bad defensively? You can't judge Subban's defensive play on one game. He has had 2 bad games I can think of this year. All players do it. Get over yourselves.

And he doesn't play PK. I'm telling you this and you are choosing to ignore it.
- NugentHallberle

Also Plekanec was mad at him once

That's the key word. There are always going to be a small group of idiots who give an entire fan base a bad name. Every team has bozo's
- fudd1689

I think we found that "group" representing the Oilers.

You Subban haters make me giggle. Boyle is one of the defencemen people think should be ahead of Subban. He scored on himself in the playoffs. Does that make him bad defensively? I watched an L.A. game last year and saw Doughty give the puck away 4 times. Does that make him bad defensively? You can't judge Subban's defensive play on one game. He has had 2 bad games I can think of this year. All players do it. Get over yourselves.
- curryjg44

Yes. He is now a terrible defenseman and overrated.

Ek, are you Amanda Bynes?
- mhp

If so can you post a pic of your boobs?

Yes. He is now a terrible defenseman and overrated.
- StayTunedMTC

Although I appreciate sarcsasm, I think I made my point.

If so can you post a pic of your boobs?
- MnGump

He has for apparently the last 7 games. There is approx 200 other games that he has not. Small sample size.
- NugentHallberle

The whole point of our argument, is that he has improved in the areas that you are picking at. None of us are saying he does everything. But where he was mostly an offensive threat early in his career and as late as last season, things have come a long way.

And he doesn't play PK. I'm telling you this and you are choosing to ignore it.
- NugentHallberle

You know teams don't play 60 minutes on the pk, right?

...and if you already have 5 other guys who can play on the pk why is it so important that Subban also play on the pk?

So the other 5 guys being able to play on the pk, wouldn't you want the best player available to bring something ELSE to the table? Something that he does just about better than anyone else in the world?

just a thought.

And he doesn't play PK. I'm telling you this and you are choosing to ignore it.
- NugentHallberle

He never did, no. He is now starting to play some PK. Not a lot, but some. Remember though - Habs get all the calls and so there is very little PK for him to be on for.

You know teams don't play 60 minutes on the pk, right?

...and if you already have 5 other guys who can play on the pk why is it so important that Subban also play on the pk?

So the other 5 guys being able to play on the pk, wouldn't you want the best player available to bring something ELSE to the table? Something that he does just about better than anyone else in the world?

just a thought.
- TouenneTiiTree

No. Murray should be on the PP with Gorges and Diaz and Subban should kill all penalties.

No. Murray should be on the PP with Gorges and Diaz and Subban should kill all penalties.
- hscesq

Damn it. I was hoping it wouldn't come to this.

EDIT: apparently playing on the pk is a prerequisite to play on team Canada. hopefully it doesn't apply to forwards, since some of the better ones out there don't...

Also Plekanec was mad at him once
- FinAddict

I'm also hearing his parents scolded him once when he was 7

I'm also hearing his parents scolded him once when he was 7
- stinger67

such an ungrateful bastard.

If so can you post a pic of your boobs?
- MnGump

I'm also hearing his parents scolded him once when he was 7
- stinger67

I'm leaving now...let me know how this plays out.

Damn it. I was hoping it wouldn't come to this.

EDIT: apparently playing on the pk is a prerequisite to play on team Canada. hopefully it doesn't apply to forwards, since some of the better ones out there don't...
- TouenneTiiTree

Excellent point. Excellent point indeed.

Yes. He is now a terrible defenseman and overrated.
- StayTunedMTC

it's unreal how people can isolate one instance and judge a player on it...

it's unreal how people can isolate one instance and judge a player on it...
- DoubleDown

Phill Kessel is ugly.

Phill Kessel is ugly.
- Pecafan Fan

he's also fat, and he looks, sounds and comes off as a general piece of garbage.

good player though.

Damn it. I was hoping it wouldn't come to this.

EDIT: apparently playing on the pk is a prerequisite to play on team Canada. hopefully it doesn't apply to forwards, since some of the better ones out there don't...
- TouenneTiiTree

are you saying Kris Draper and Kirk Maltby don't make the team this year?

are you saying Kris Draper and Kirk Maltby don't make the team this year?
- stinger67

No. But Doug Jarvis will be there!!!

No. But Doug Jarvis will be there!!!
- hscesq

Pretty sure he was mad at PK at one point too.

it's unreal how people can isolate one instance and judge a player on it...
- DoubleDown

That's the point I'm trying to make. Doughty is good, and so is Boyle. But newsflash!!! SO IS SUBBAN!!

That's the point I'm trying to make. Doughty is good, and so is Boyle. But newsflash!!! SO IS SUBBAN!!
- curryjg44

No.