But he doesn't get credit for last season.
- Feeling Glucky?

I think Carlyle got most of the credit for the playoffs last season

i get it.. i just will never accept excuses.

ooo.. the leafs lost bozak..lets see.. who else.. franson for a couple.. fraser for a bunch

lupul is the worst... but that shouldnt shut down an offense that still has kadri kessel jvr etc
- Dozzer

i hate Lupul. that guy needs to nut up already.

I think Carlyle got most of the credit for the playoffs last season
- senstroll

actually i think it was Donald Fehr

That they are above .500 playing non playoff bound teams


- faceto27

touche

i get it.. i just will never accept excuses.

ooo.. the leafs lost bozak..lets see.. who else.. franson for a couple.. fraser for a bunch

lupul is the worst... but that shouldnt shut down an offense that still has kadri kessel jvr etc
- Dozzer

Lupul, JVR for a few, Bozak for a bunch, Kadri for a few, Kessel playing hurt...

Clarkson out for 10

Bolland out.

I wonder if any team has yet to play a single game with their team intact.

But he doesn't get credit for last season.
- Feeling Glucky?

I'm sure people gave him credit... People did say our team was able to compete with the Bruins finally, when before we got pummeled with Wilson.

Not saying he's a bad coach, but his system just isn't working in this era of the NHL. And his player selections are baffling at best. Are you gonna say he's not responsible for our loss last night? Who puts on a 4th line of non-hockey players against one of the leagues best teams after tying it 2-2 and gaining some momentum?

Lupul, JVR for a few, Bozak for a bunch, Kadri for a few, Kessel playing hurt...

Clarkson out for 10

Bolland out.

I wonder if any team has yet to play a single game with their team intact.
- Feeling Glucky?

Habs are really close if not there during this last stretch aren't they?

As an Ottawa fan I'm hoping the Leafs finish December 4-5 games under .500... Will give my Sens a shot at bouncing back in...

But seriously, the Leafs really need to address their #1C position.. Have ANY depth in that position is better than what they currently have..

What would the team look like if they had not signed Bozak? Bozak is a decent#2 guy but definitely not a #1.
- riceroni

The Sens will be ahead of the Leafs before the end of December, with at least 10 days to spare.

i hate Lupul. that guy needs to nut up already.
- DoubleDown

Such a good player too

But he doesn't get credit for last season.
- Feeling Glucky?

ok fine .. carlyle is god.. thats why he's so awesome he's never been considered for world competition

ooooo the leafs made the playoffs... the man is a genious

305-208 win loss record as a coach... win % of 59%....HoF bound for certain.. def earned the right not be questioned

the man was gifted a great anaheim team and he's still riding that coat tail

I'm sure people gave him credit... People did say our team was able to compete with the Bruins finally, when before we got pummeled with Wilson.

Not saying he's a bad coach, but his system just isn't working in this era of the NHL. And his player selections are baffling at best. Are you gonna say he's not responsible for our loss last night? Who puts on a 4th line of non-hockey players against one of the leagues best teams after tying it 2-2 and gaining some momentum?
- peddy-93

Trying to get those guys going?

I don't know

He makes some weird choices for sure, but it works more often than not.

Lupul, JVR for a few, Bozak for a bunch, Kadri for a few, Kessel playing hurt...

Clarkson out for 10

Bolland out.

I wonder if any team has yet to play a single game with their team intact.
- Feeling Glucky?

whatever.. if you cant see how they suck then there isnt much help for you

you'll be one of the fans at the end of the year holding your tear soaked foam finger asking what happened?

whatever.. if you cant see how they suck then there isnt much help for you

you'll be one of the fans at the end of the year holding your tear soaked foam finger asking what happened?
- Dozzer

Yup, it can't be used as an excuse.
- Scabeh

a couple 3rd liners or 1 st liner and 1 4th liner being out for the season is far different than losing a different combination of 2 or more of our better forwards every few games.

Did someone point out that all but 2 of our top 12 forwards have spent time out this season.

Also, there has been some pretty wide speculation that Kessel has played injured for the last couple weeks.

... I think I saw a movie once that involved some "wide speculation"

Habs are really close if not there during this last stretch aren't they?
- Woderwick

Bourque has been on/off the roster because of small injuries but yeah, you can consider the Habs close to being completely healthy.

Drewiske doesn't count.

Trying to get those guys going?

I don't know

He makes some weird choices for sure, but it works more often than not.
- Feeling Glucky?

Thing is, those guys will never get going

Let alone against a team like SJ, and if he wants to get them going, he deployed them at the worst possible time

whatever.. if you cant see how they suck then there isnt much help for you

you'll be one of the fans at the end of the year holding your tear soaked foam finger asking what happened?
- Dozzer

they have been bad. All stats traditional and Fancy show how bad they have played
coach, system, players whatever it is..barely watchable hockey

i hate Lupul. that guy needs to nut up already.
- DoubleDown

One of only 7 players in the league to avg a ppg over the last 3 seasons. (I think I heard that yesterday)

... the injuries are just fcuking ridiculous though.

they have been bad. All stats traditional and Fancy show how bad they have played
coach, system, players whatever it is..barely watchable hockey
- senstroll

exactly how i feel

whatever.. if you cant see how they suck then there isnt much help for you

you'll be one of the fans at the end of the year holding your tear soaked foam finger asking what happened?
- Dozzer

uh, that isn't tears

ok fine .. carlyle is god.. thats why he's so awesome he's never been considered for world competition

ooooo the leafs made the playoffs... the man is a genious

305-208 win loss record as a coach... win % of 59%....HoF bound for certain.. def earned the right not be questioned

the man was gifted a great anaheim team and he's still riding that coat tail
- Dozzer

Why the hyperbole?

You're putting all the blame on him... ultimately it's up to the players if they want to buy in to the system or not. Last year, they were, this year, they're not.

Why is it that you never responded to that other post in the last thread that I brought here?

I flat out say that a lot of the players aren't playing good hockey, and that's the reason they're losing.

When I say the refs are hurting the Leafs, or injuries are hurting the team, I'm not using those things as excuses. They're contributing factors to why the players aren't playing the hockey they should. Along with immaturity- which is one of the biggest flaws of young teams.

And to your follow-up, patronizing post(that you'd be warning other posters about), no, I'm not going to be wondering what happened. I'm just not one of the fans going crazy right now, saying they should fire the coach and/or blow up the team.

a couple 3rd liners or 1 st liner and 1 4th liner being out for the season is far different than losing a different combination of 2 or more of our better forwards every few games.

Did someone point out that all but 2 of our top 12 forwards have spent time out this season.

Also, there has been some pretty wide speculation that Kessel has played injured for the last couple weeks.

... I think I saw a movie once that involved some "wide speculation"
- Aetherial

was it porn?



i bet it was porn.

a couple 3rd liners or 1 st liner and 1 4th liner being out for the season is far different than losing a different combination of 2 or more of our better forwards every few games.

Did someone point out that all but 2 of our top 12 forwards have spent time out this season.

Also, there has been some pretty wide speculation that Kessel has played injured for the last couple weeks.

... I think I saw a movie once that involved some "wide speculation"
- Aetherial

yo.

Lupul, JVR for a few, Bozak for a bunch, Kadri for a few, Kessel playing hurt...

Clarkson out for 10

Bolland out.

I wonder if any team has yet to play a single game with their team intact.
- Feeling Glucky?

Doubt it. With the game being played as fast as it is and hard hitting with an emphasis on blocking shots, injuries seem all too common now a days. Groins, broken bones in the foot, shoulder injuries and concussions seem like everyday occurrences.

whatever.. if you cant see how they suck then there isnt much help for you

you'll be one of the fans at the end of the year holding your tear soaked foam finger asking what happened?
- Dozzer

thats one of the best 1 liners ive seen in a long ass time