The ages is minimal, look at LA in comparison, very very close in age differential. It is not even close to an excuse that can be given.
- LeafMan

except for the Kings, most elite teams are on the "older" side

I'm not following your team much but my opinion is that you need improvement on center and defence.

Bozak is not a first line center. Kadri might be someday.
- sEb_666

thanks for the insight

except for the Kings, most elite teams are on the "older" side
- Symba007

Chicago? Pittsburgh? St. Louis? they're not old are they?

except for the Kings, most elite teams are on the "older" side
- Symba007

Really depends of your definition of "older side".

I'd say Chicago still has a very young core of players.

Chicago? Pittsburgh? St. Louis? they're not old are they?
- DoubleDown

More players in their prime.

More players in their prime.
- Woderwick

Not sure I'd consider players in their prime as old.

Chicago? Pittsburgh? St. Louis? they're not old are they?
- DoubleDown

Chicago is 4th oldest on this list, Pittsburgh 5th, St-Louis right in the middle

You are a funny guy.
- Woderwick

Thank you.

Who gets fired if the Leafs are below 8th on January 1st?

What is the plan to fix the team?

Who gets fired if the Leafs are below 8th on January 1st?

What is the plan to fix the team?
- riceroni

Those healing machines from Elysium could help.

The ages is minimal, look at LA in comparison, very very close in age differential. It is not even close to an excuse that can be given.
- LeafMan

Whatever their age - too many underperformers.

Although the injury excuse is legit. Hard to gain consistency when your lineup is changing so often.

Who gets fired if the Leafs are below 8th on January 1st?

What is the plan to fix the team?
- riceroni

I don't know, waiting for Nonis to return my call. He's kinda busy with a bottle at the moment.

The ages is minimal, look at LA in comparison, very very close in age differential. It is not even close to an excuse that can be given.
- LeafMan

oh i agree 100%.. but there is enough difference where younger teams will have just that extra bit of jump

also.. a lot of the leafs age is in the bottom 6.. which is something else to consider

More players in their prime.
- Woderwick

majority of the Leafs are in their prime too. Kadri, Rielly being notable exceptions. Leafs young average age is more a function of their lack of old players rather than a bevy of youngsters. not an old team but i agree with LeafMan that referring to them as being so young is a bit misleading.

Not sure I'd consider players in their prime as old.
- Scabeh

Definitely not - prime as in performance. No real correlation to age really.

Chicago? Pittsburgh? St. Louis? they're not old are they?
- DoubleDown

19th, 11th, and 19th (tied) according to

http://mirtle.blogspot.ca...eight-height-and-age.html

I don't know, waiting for Nonis to return my call. He's kinda busy with a bottle at the moment.
- LeafMan

As an Ottawa fan I'm hoping the Leafs finish December 4-5 games under .500... Will give my Sens a shot at bouncing back in...

But seriously, the Leafs really need to address their #1C position.. Have ANY depth in that position is better than what they currently have..

What would the team look like if they had not signed Bozak? Bozak is a decent#2 guy but definitely not a #1.

majority of the Leafs are in their prime too. Kadri, Rielly being notable exceptions. Leafs young average age is more a function of their lack of old players rather than a bevy of youngsters. not an old team but i agree with LeafMan that referring to them as being so young is a bit misleading.
- DoubleDown

I agree.

Whatever their age - too many underperformers.

Although the injury excuse is legit. Hard to gain consistency when your lineup is changing so often.
- The Law

the leafs are 15th in man games lost.. middle of the pack

http://www.mangameslost.c...mes-lost-december-1-2013/

the leafs are 15th in man games lost.. middle of the pack

http://www.mangameslost.c...mes-lost-december-1-2013/
- Dozzer

Yup, it can't be used as an excuse.

Yup, it can't be used as an excuse.
- Scabeh

the leafs are losing because they are playing poopty hockey.. plain and simple

its not the refs.. its not the injuries.. its not the league holding them down

they just suck right now. end of story

the leafs are 15th in man games lost.. middle of the pack

http://www.mangameslost.c...mes-lost-december-1-2013/
- Dozzer

Where are they in the standings? Right in the middle of the pack - coinkidink?

I don't know, waiting for Nonis to return my call. He's kinda busy with a bottle at the moment.
- LeafMan

I can't see him doing the same mistake as Burke and waiting too long, surely he learnt from others mistakes.

the leafs are 15th in man games lost.. middle of the pack

http://www.mangameslost.c...mes-lost-december-1-2013/
- Dozzer

misleading stat though, habs are 5th but many of those games were Murray and Parros, guys that have little impact. Losing Emelin was a different story.

Game lost to guys in your top 6 on offense, top 4 on D and #1 goalie, different story.

As an Ottawa fan I'm hoping the Leafs finish December 4-5 games under .500... Will give my Sens a shot at bouncing back in...

But seriously, the Leafs really need to address their #1C position.. Have ANY depth in that position is better than what they currently have..

What would the team look like if they had not signed Bozak? Bozak is a decent#2 guy but definitely not a #1.
- riceroni

They have yet to have a complete lineup dressed this year.

With that being said, if everyone gave a better effort and competed harder, they can help themselves plus a change in a system, the D-men have no outlet for passes and clearing with ther wingers no where in sight or out of position in the middle of the ice staring at the puck. Other than that, there is no saviour coming who will help.