Biggest lie, IMO is that education= skills & intelligence.

About 0.000% of what you learn in university translates to your field, unless you're studying the sciences. At least with trades you learn and build the skills you're going to be using... and in many cases have an an apprenticeship program that will help you. Internships for business programs are cheap(or free, or even profitable for the company) labor, and you're worked to hell, without being given any tasks that could actually help you in the future.


Education: One of the many broken systems in our society.
- Feeling Glucky?

oh its a cash grab nothing more.

the other issue i have with it is that very little of the profs are worth learnign from. now.. this isnt to say that all of them are in this boat, i am sure some actually wanted to teach, but a small minority.

those who can do, those who cant teach

there is a sad amount of truth to that

couldnt agree more
- drexel

This should make him feel better.

Finally, you see the light..
- bixll

Biggest lie, IMO is that education= skills & intelligence.

About 0.000% of what you learn in university translates to your field, unless you're studying the sciences. At least with trades you learn and build the skills you're going to be using... and in many cases have an an apprenticeship program that will help you. Internships for business programs are cheap(or free, or even profitable for the company) labor, and you're worked to hell, without being given any tasks that could actually help you in the future.


Education: One of the many broken systems in our society.
- Feeling Glucky?

Not true...what youre learning during your years in school is the ability to, well, learn at a higher level than you would anywhere else. Moreover, its your ability to research, write, express and understand ideas thoroughly with time constraints. Though I do fully agree that most degrees now a days are nothing but resume boosters, going to Uni has certainly helped me bring in extra cash and Ive used many tools which Ive gained through the experience. Though I also worked toward specific majors in relation to what I was hoping to achieve...so there is validity in saying that a BA in English/History aint doing anything for ya.

Not true...what youre learning during your years in school is the ability to, well, learn at a higher level than you would anywhere else. Moreover, its your ability to research, write, express and understand ideas thoroughly with time constraints. Though I do fully agree that most degrees now a days are nothing but resume boosters, going to Uni has certainly helped me bring in extra cash and Ive used many tools which Ive gained through the experience. Though I also took specific majors towards what I was hoping to achieve...so there is validity in saying that a BA in English/History aint doing anything for ya.
- Colin Dambrauskas

OK.

0.00001%


Happy?

Some specific jobs are terrible for employment. I heard that Ontario has enough teachers now that if we did not graduate another one for 10 years, we would still have too many.

Something has to give. Almost everyone I know has been affected by massive layoffs. I was at a table with 8 people for dinner yesterday and we all make the same or less than we did 8 years ago, and that is in literal terms.

There is just far less opportunity for far more people. That is why trades are a good idea. There is always demand.

... then again, I have to wonder if too many tradespeople will flood the market in the next 10 years.
- Aetherial

same for all the future "environmental scientists"...

Biggest lie, IMO is that education= skills & intelligence.

About 0.000% of what you learn in university translates to your field, unless you're studying the sciences. At least with trades you learn and build the skills you're going to be using... and in many cases have an an apprenticeship program that will help you. Internships for business programs are cheap(or free, or even profitable for the company) labor, and you're worked to hell, without being given any tasks that could actually help you in the future.


Education: One of the many broken systems in our society.
- Feeling Glucky?

I for one look forward to having multiple degrees and still earning less than the guy we call in to fix the toilet when it turns into a fountain

This should make him feel better.
- hscesq

It should. Me wise.

I hate to say this but there are too many refs in here with different methods, I say we leave this to Dozzer and I, we are here and can handle this, thanks guys.

same for all the future "environmental scientists"...
- drexel

Which one was it for you?
- Yeti1181

college. but i had the job lined up before i went

i started out after highschool and just went to work.. started out at the bottom of the company i work for to this day.. became their youngest floor supervisor within 4 years so i decided.. what the hell.. i got a knack for this so i spoke with the owner and told him i was looking at possibly taking the C.E.T. program.

he told me he would hire me straight out of school if I did with my background knowledge of his plant.

been designing and estimating for him ever since.

- Aetherial

Hey Yeti didn't like the Alberta chat. I found it odd that he weighed in at that time, like that myself. But whatever..Specially with 3 other refs in the blog.

Timing was weird, Other than the remark about the Nuck fans, I didn't think we were taking shots at any one province or cultural community.

I for one look forward to having multiple degrees and still earning less than the guy we call in to fix the toilet when it turns into a fountain
- lumlums

Learn to fix the toilet and you ll be on easy street.

Well you re being ignorant towards me cause I asked people to stop bashing other cities,provinces or countries. Do you have a problem with people being respectful? Nobody is here trolling right now but yet others are bashing others homes so not sure what trolling has to do with this. But please explain?
- Yeti1181

opened up the thread.
Went to some page, maybe half-way through the thread.

First post I read is an obvious troll from a Colorado fan. He gets a warning and a discussion.

Why the F do we have to deal with these idiots. Ban them, ban their alts, and be done with it. Same for Leafs fans trolling other boards.

OK.

0.00001%


Happy?
- Feeling Glucky?

Yes...but I guess what Im really saying is you could argue that someone with a degree has more potential paths, than does someone with a diploma in construction or police services or what have you. Nothing against colleges one bit, but my friends who've graduated have but that one specific skill set...which I do have to say is great that they got the hands on experience through co-ops etcetera...something universties could care less about. Give us your money then get out.

Hey Yeti didn't like the Alberta chat. I found it odd that he weighed in at that time, like that myself. But whatever..Specially with 3 other refs in the blog.

Timing was weird, Other than the remark about the Nuck fans, I didn't think we were taking shots at any one province or cultural community.
- bixll

He was taking direct shots at Alberta like he always does. The thread are not here to bash others places its for hockey and bashing other hockey teams not the city.

well I better go grab a company paid for breakfast sandwich and get back to plundering the earth for its bounty...

Learn to fix the toilet and you ll be on easy street.
- Yeti1181

Most of the time I either reach for the plunger, or just double flush.

If that doesn't fix it, I jut head down to the Winchester and wait for the whole thing to blow over...

There's about 30 firetrucks police cars and ambulances at queen and yonge.

I heard someone JUST got shoved in front of the subway.

well I better go grab a company paid for breakfast sandwich and get back to plundering the earth for its bounty...
- drexel

I hate you.

I hate to say this but there are too many refs in here with different methods, I say we leave this to Dozzer and I, we are here and can handle this, thanks guys.
- LeafMan

Troll.

There's about 30 firetrucks police cars and ambulances at queen and yonge.

I heard someone JUST got shoved in front of the subway.
- Betelgeuse

Woah...

Some specific jobs are terrible for employment. I heard that Ontario has enough teachers now that if we did not graduate another one for 10 years, we would still have too many.

Something has to give. Almost everyone I know has been affected by massive layoffs. I was at a table with 8 people for dinner yesterday and we all make the same or less than we did 8 years ago, and that is in literal terms.

There is just far less opportunity for far more people. That is why trades are a good idea. There is always demand.

... then again, I have to wonder if too many tradespeople will flood the market in the next 10 years.
- Aetherial

highschools are really starting to push for trades now too...but it was always University is the way to go.....I was part of that group, college was a "joke", we were told.

There's about 30 firetrucks police cars and ambulances at queen and yonge.

I heard someone JUST got shoved in front of the subway.
- Betelgeuse

Friggin' Rob Ford.

Learn to fix the toilet and you ll be on easy street.
- Yeti1181

My brothers-in-law are general contractors so over the years I have got to know a few plumbers/electricians/gas-fitters etc.

Without fail, they all make more than me, work less, and take more holidays.

Yeah, they have to work in sh1tty (sometimes literally) conditions, but then dealing with the idiots in my office is no picnic either