Sure trade Dion...Ranger can replace his minutes...
- Fruitcakenipple

Like said, we can talk about how great Dion is in our own zone but at this point if we don't find a way to play more hockey in the offensive zone then it doesn't matter what Dion does.

There really isn't anyone on the trade market that'd be a good boost to us right now.

Kulikov'd be nice but really without a top centre we're screwed. It's actually gotten really ridiculous.
- AngryWhiteMale

Go all in, balls deep and try for either, or both, of Pavelski and Girardi.

It'd take a lot. But they're the types of guys that we need

Go all in, balls deep and try for either, or both, of Pavelski and Girardi.

It'd take a lot. But they're the types of guys that we need
- lumlums

Meh Pavelski would be nice, but the fact is that to pull this together we need someone who can really command a game down the middle of the ice.

Meh Pavelski would be nice, but the fact is that to pull this together we need someone who can really command a game down the middle of the ice.
- AngryWhiteMale

Put him on first line and he would do it I think. He's not the biggest guy, but he has some power to his game...

Put him on first line and he would do it I think. He's not the biggest guy, but he has some power to his game...
- lumlums

How exactly do u get him??

How exactly do u get him??
- Fruitcakenipple

Thats the caveat... I don't know. With Jumbo Joe a UFA, and Pavelski and Couture wrapped up at $6m per next year, I think they're keeping him and abandoning Joe.... time will tell though.

Lmao trade Dion for Brad Richards so I can cry so much from laughter that the desert in phoenix turns into a tropical paradise and hockey becomes relevant

Put him on first line and he would do it I think. He's not the biggest guy, but he has some power to his game...
- lumlums

We need elite.

but it's so hard to find via trade that it's impossible not to over-pay

Lmao trade Dion for Brad Richards so I can cry so much from laughter that the desert in phoenix turns into a tropical paradise and hockey becomes relevant
- Meeqsb

Slide down the mountain..U lack oxygen...

Thats the caveat... I don't know. With Jumbo Joe a UFA, and Pavelski and Couture wrapped up at $6m per next year, I think they're keeping him and abandoning Joe.... time will tell though.
- lumlums

Joe could turn kessel and jvr into 90 goal guys, hell look what he did for cheechoo

Go all in, balls deep and try for either, or both, of Pavelski and Girardi.

It'd take a lot. But they're the types of guys that we need
- lumlums

Agreed time to make a bold move and take us to the next level.

Joe could turn kessel and jvr into 90 goal guys, hell look what he did for cheechoo
- Yeti1181

Yeah then you guys could REALLY choke in the playoffs with him as your #1 C

We need elite.

but it's so hard to find via trade that it's impossible not to over-pay
- AngryWhiteMale

Lmao name all of the #1C you think the leafs could get in a trade this year.

Jesus..We being trolled by a Avs fan...All time low...

Lmao name all of the #1C you think the leafs could get in a trade this year.
- Meeqsb

If your not going to bother reading and understand the quote then move along because your just trolling.

Lmao name all of the #1C you think the leafs could get in a trade this year.
- Meeqsb

Like I said, the trade market is crap.

absolute crap.

And this team is screwed. Good thing we have out first rounder.

If your not going to bother reading and understand the quote then move along because your just trolling.
- Yeti1181

I will admit to a small amount of antagonization but my comment was more directed at a series of posts insisting that the leafs need someone who is "elite" and I was curious as to who he had in mind exactly.

Jesus..We being trolled by a Avs fan...All time low...
- Fruitcakenipple

I thought the all time low was BEING A LEAF FAN

I will admit to a small amount of antagonization but my comment was more directed at a series of posts insisting that the leafs need someone who is "elite" and I was curious as to who he had in mind exactly.
- Meeqsb

You're missing the point. It's a generalization, not a specific target.

I thought the all time low was BEING A LEAF FAN


- Meeqsb

Just leave ffs.

I thought the all time low was BEING A LEAF FAN


- Meeqsb

Come on man, you've always been a good poster here, don't go getting ridiculous just because you're not bottom feeding for the first time in a few years. Trust me, we know what it looks like

I thought the all time low was BEING A LEAF FAN


- Meeqsb

Avs here have been irrelevant since forsberg and sakic. Now they are relevant again

Like I said, the trade market is crap.

absolute crap.

And this team is screwed. Good thing we have out first rounder.
- AngryWhiteMale

I see where you're coming from, I really do. Trading Phaneuf could "potentially" net a #1 C. But with that, you've completely hung this team out to dry.

The Suter deal in Minnesota is a prime example of what a #1 defenseman does to a team. Minny was struggling to make playoffs, and the defense was a bunch of no names and lesser names playing a team game. They'd often finish in the bottom 10 in the league after starting out with some ridiculous start. Sign Suter, next year Playoffs, Suter eats up almost 30 min a game, and is one of the best two-way defenders in the game. Along comes Brodin, they now have an instant top pair, with two good goaltenders and they look like one of the Top 5 teams out West. Easy.

The last how many cup winners had an outstanding top pairing. Anaheim had Niedermayer/Pronger, LA had Scuduri/Doughty, Chicago had Keith/Seabrook, Pittsburgh had a plethora of top defenseman in Scuduri, Gonchar playing his best hockey, a young Letang and Goligoski along with Orpik, they were deep. Boston? Chara/Seidenberg, and Detroit had Lidtsrom along with Rafalski and Stuart. Another stacked defense.

Sure, these teams had some amazing offense depth and 1 or more #1 centers, but they had deep, tough defense that made it difficult for other teams. Many of there best defenseman playing the most minutes in a game out of any non-Goaltender.

You don't fill one hole, and dig another. We already are stupidly thin on defense, and when injuries aren't plaguing the team, they aren't half bad. You get another big, Top 6 Center and you have an offensive core in the vein of Boston where it's just deep. Doesn't have to be elite.

You're missing the point. It's a generalization, not a specific target.
- systemtool

I assumed he was trying to be constructive but if what he actually was trying to say was "we need a generalized center" aka "all of our centers aren't good enough" then I guess that one is my bad.

I will admit to a small amount of antagonization but my comment was more directed at a series of posts insisting that the leafs need someone who is "elite" and I was curious as to who he had in mind exactly.
- Meeqsb

I want to say the Leafs need a Toews type player. A Selke finalist playing in the Top 6. And 3 Top 4 defenders.