No idea what that means.
- wolfhounds

Today will be Raffl discussion day.

lol, come on now. I think Raffl has way more upside than Nodl. If anything, I'm excited for Raffl.
- Flyers_V88

Difference is, Nodl was like 20 or 21 when he cracked the Flyers lineup for the first time. Raffl is 25... probably not realistic to even think of him as a prospect.

Man do i hope mez sits for gustaffson.... he is so bad and such a turnover machine!!

how many of those guys have we had? jeeez...
- hammarby31

Andreas Nodl, Mika Pyerala, Dennis Telpeko, Jiri Depita I would add to the list. All picked up from Europe, handed an opportunity with the club, all of their games never translated.

Does anyone find it amusing that of the 7 goals scored in the last game between these teams only Kronwall will play tonight?

Does anyone find it amusing that of the 7 goals scored in the last game between these teams only Kronwall will play tonight?
- PhillySportsGuy

I think Cleary will bank in the GWG off Raffl's face. Lead pipe with all the trimmings.

Andreas Nodl, Mika Pyerala, Dennis Telpeko, Jiri Depita I would add to the list. All picked up from Europe, handed an opportunity with the club, all of their games never translated.
- Schenn2shine

None of them were ever out of place. Their offensive games just never developed into NHL caliber.

or Thoresen.
- flyler

Oh my god, I totally forgot about this guy.

I think Cleary will bank in the GWG off Raffl's face. Lead pipe with all the trimmings.
- PLindbergh31

I think Raffl is going to score tonight…On their goal, not ours. I felt I needed to clarify

or Thoresen.
- flyler

Which is currently doing a solid job in the KHL!

I'll say it again. I think it might be a symptom of this teams issues that Sydney Crosby has as many points as the Flyers top line COMBINED.

None of them were ever out of place. Their offensive games just never developed into NHL caliber.
- PhillySportsGuy

Yeah but I'm within the highest belief that you do not hand a player an NHL roster spot unless they already have NHL experience, have an outstanding camp or a high end prospect.

I'll say it again. I think it might be a symptom of this teams issues that Sydney Crosby has as many points as the Flyers top line COMBINED.
- MBFlyerfan

I am so depressed right now. So down...

I'll say it again. I think it might be a symptom of this teams issues that Sydney Crosby has as many points as the Flyers top line COMBINED.
- MBFlyerfan

Not going to lie, that truly hurts.

I'll say it again. I think it might be a symptom of this teams issues that Sydney Crosby has as many points as the Flyers top line COMBINED.
- MBFlyerfan

What if you add the massive 4 points that the 4th line has chipped in to the first line totals? Does that surpass Crosby?

He's reminding me more of Nodl everyday.
- PhillySportsGuy

Nodl is a better player than him

I don't mind Raffl all that much. If the scorers were doing their part, Raffl would be viewed as a solid two-way forward. We would probably just laugh off his inability to hit the net with shots.
- PhillySportsGuy

As it stands, quite a few players are having a hard time hitting the net. More important still, getting the puck past the goalie seems to be a problem as well.

Yeah but I'm within the highest belief that you do not hand a player an NHL roster spot unless they already have NHL experience, have an outstanding camp or a high end prospect.
- Schenn2shine

They didn't really hand Raffl a spot. They called him up out of necessity.

Yup. With the Flyers top players struggling mightily offensively, would be nice to get some production from some secondary guys. Needless to say it's not happening.
- PLindbergh31

Secondary scoring has been happening. Vinny, b schenn, read potting goals this year. The top line had been awful ALL year

Meh. G, Jake, Read, etc. all miss high and wide just like Raffl. Or they manage to shoot it into a defender's stick or body. Hence the Flyers being one of the lowest scoring teams in the league.
- wolfhounds

I really think Jake needs to start just shooting more! He can't rush past every D....

I'll say it again. I think it might be a symptom of this teams issues that Sydney Crosby has as many points as the Flyers top line COMBINED.
- MBFlyerfan

No, that's crazy. Just stop. We need to focus on Raffl and his inability to carry the team.

Difference is, Nodl was like 20 or 21 when he cracked the Flyers lineup for the first time. Raffl is 25... probably not realistic to even think of him as a prospect.
- Tomahawk

Not as a prospect in the traditional sense, but moreso a project. I think he has the ability to play in the NHL, he just needs to be more assertive out there and shoot more.

Nodl is a better player than him
- Just5

Raffl is the corn in Nodl's strudel.

I really think Jake needs to start just shooting more! He can't rush past every D....
- Flyers_V88

I would just like to see them try more jam plays. Just get the puck on net and crash. Jake and G are both guilty of overpassing.

Raffl is the corn in Nodl's strudel.
- PLindbergh31

Raffl is the corn that stirs the strudel